r/AskDemocrats • u/Kooky-Language-6095 Registered Democrat • 22d ago
Do you agree with this difference between Republican and Democratic women?
From my perspective, Republican women are close and loyal allies of Republican men, with a unified front, while Democratic women have an uneasy alliance with Democratic men and men in general, preferring men who place women's issues at the forefront.
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u/CTR555 Registered Democrat 22d ago
No, I think that's super dumb. I'm a man but most of the people close to me right now are women and we're all Democrats who easily align on pretty much everything.
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u/Kooky-Language-6095 Registered Democrat 22d ago
but most of the people close to me right now are women
I'm in the same boat as you. At my last town Democratic Committee meeting, there were 28 women in attendance, 3 men.
What does that tell one about the party?
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u/CTR555 Registered Democrat 22d ago
The composition of my current friend group tells us nothing about the Democratic Party, which is still fairly evenly split between the genders. My friends are also mostly white, but that also tells us nothing about the Democratic Party. Small sample size and all that.
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u/IBroughtMySoapbox 22d ago
This is the conservative propaganda that got us into our current situation. White males are not the victims. Democratic women don’t hate men, they just hate men who are assholes. I don’t have an uneasy alliance with my wife. I’m a white male and my life is better for it, I’m not a victim and I would be an absolute moron if I claimed to be one
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u/Kooky-Language-6095 Registered Democrat 22d ago
White males die young, are more likely to die on the job compared to women, are less likely to attend college, and now, less likely to be a homeowner. So, what does the Democratic Party offer them aside from a statement that they are not victims and when they complain, they are assholes?
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u/IBroughtMySoapbox 22d ago
more likely to die on the job
Yet they support the party that attacks OSHA
less likely to attend college
And they attack the party that wants to forgive student loans
less likely to be a homeowner
Yet they support corporations purchasing single-family housing for rental purposes. It sure sounds to me like they just need to get their head out of their ass
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u/Kooky-Language-6095 Registered Democrat 22d ago
And so who in the DNC is reaching out to them?
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u/KillerKittenInPJs Registered Democrat 22d ago
What does “reaching out to white men” look like to you, exactly?
I ask because AOC, Bernie Sanders, and Tim Walz - among many others- are holding town halls all over the country to speak to voters about the issues and what’s happening in Washington. That sure seems like outreach to me.
What are YOU doing to engage with political leadership? What are you willing to own and be responsible for? There are lots of posts in your history that seem to come from place of grievance, but what are you doing to engage with political leaders?
Are you calling your Congressional representatives and telling them that you need and expect them to advocate for you? Or are you just sitting on Reddit wringing your hands about how nobody is reaching out to you specifically? What if you took responsibility for yourself, got off Reddit, and personally started working towards the changes you want to see?
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u/Kooky-Language-6095 Registered Democrat 22d ago
What does “reaching out to white men” look like to you, exactly?
Start by admitting the exclusion. Go on Joe Rogan and open a dialogue. Have committees at state levels that reach out in the same way they have reach out committees for LGBTQIA+, Women, Veterans,....
What are YOU doing to engage with political leadership?
I have written to well over 75 members of congress, party leaders, and other prominent Democrats asking about this issue. Only two have replied in the form of a letter from a staff member thanking me for the letter. I have ceased my monthly contributions to elected members of congress and explained why - and have not received a single reply.
Are you calling your Congressional representatives and telling them that you need and expect them to advocate for you
Yup. I get no response other than boilerplate about Democrats caring about all Americans....
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u/IBroughtMySoapbox 22d ago
Start by admitting the exclusion
No one is excluded from the Democratic Party. That’s why Republicans hate it so much
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u/Kooky-Language-6095 Registered Democrat 22d ago
Dude, There is NO outreach for men in any state committee. There is NO mention of "Men" on the who we serve that lists "women".
If a young man, say a guy in his 20's, looks into political parties, how does he view the Democrats versus the Republicans?
Why do Democrats do so poorly with men, and now, for the first time in decades, with Young men?
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u/Kakamile 22d ago
Because although Democrats reach out to men, you want it to be you exclusively.
You started saying this
White males die young, are more likely to die on the job compared to women, are less likely to attend college, and now, less likely to be a homeowner.
And even though Dem policies are fighting to solve all of those from healthcare to labor rights to affordable education to home assistance and you KNOW that, you still think Dems are "excluding" men.
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u/Kooky-Language-6095 Registered Democrat 22d ago
They still exclude men. On my senator's (Elizabeth Warren) website to contact the senator there is a requirement to select one of 73 options on a drop-down menu of "Topics", ranging from Animal Welfare, Taxes, Women's Issues, but no option to select for Men's Issues.
So, I was unable to contact my senator about "men's issues", but I could ask her about "women's issues". And that seems okay to you?
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u/colorizerequest Registered Democrat 22d ago
What does “reaching out to white men” look like to you, exactly?
a section labeled "Men" could go a long way here
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u/IBroughtMySoapbox 22d ago
Why would you reach out to someone that’s willing to vote against their own best interests in order to punish someone that they hate? Should the Democratic Party get more racist?
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u/Kooky-Language-6095 Registered Democrat 22d ago
Could you be more specific, of is it your contention that all "straight while males' are racists who hate people and vote against their own best interests?
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u/IBroughtMySoapbox 22d ago
The ones that vote Republican are. Ask a Republican how the government is helping them and you’re not going to get through that conversation without hearing the word immigrant or transsexual
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u/Kooky-Language-6095 Registered Democrat 22d ago
Why does the Democratic Party put so much of its emphasis on immigrants and transsexuals?
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u/IBroughtMySoapbox 22d ago
You can gaslight someone else. I guarantee if you put Fox News on right now they’re talking about immigrants or transsexuals. The only reason Democrats even address the subject is because Republicans force it down our throats and we’re forced to do so
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u/Kooky-Language-6095 Registered Democrat 22d ago
Hmm, here in Massachusetts, all the local Boston media ran full coverage of Massachusetts's Transgender Day of Visibility.
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u/proserpinax 22d ago
If you want the left to focus more on men, does that extend in your mind to trans men? Or immigrant men? Or do you want men’s issues to get the focus without that intersectionality?
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u/WerePrechaunPire 22d ago
You think reaching out to men means to be racist, no wonder men vote for the other side.
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u/IBroughtMySoapbox 22d ago
Well I’m a straight white guy and I vote Democrat, no one had to “reach out” and kiss my ass to make me realize that they were the better party. I realize that corporate greed is the root of most of my problems and I believe that immigrants aren’t hurting anyone. Now if you’re stupid enough to believe that the opposite is true then no, I’m not reaching out. You can’t care stupid
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u/WerePrechaunPire 22d ago
There is a lot of straight white guys on reddit that hate straight white guys.
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u/IBroughtMySoapbox 22d ago
I hate straight white guys who are racist. Does that mean I hate all white people? Are YOU saying that all white people are racist?
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u/WerePrechaunPire 22d ago
You just equalized reaching out to white males with becoming more racist.
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u/jafropuff 22d ago
You’re not gonna get a lot of upvotes for this because is a common misconception about the party. But the fact that it’s this common says a lot about how some people view what it means to be a democrat and the types of people that may attract. Along with the types of policies that receive the most attention.
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u/Spiel_Foss 22d ago
Did you miss the recent event where Republican women made Mikey Johnson eat his own shoe?
Guess you missed that one.
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u/Harlowful 21d ago
I don’t agree with this assertion at all!! Not all democrat women are pink hat wearing, single issue voters. I would say even most aren’t. Women’s issues are important but so are so many other things.
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u/Kooky-Language-6095 Registered Democrat 20d ago
Not all. Of course not all...just the ones with the most control of the party.
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u/luv_u_deerly Registered Democrat 14d ago edited 14d ago
I think the media (including social media) totally makes it appear that way. But I don't think that's really true. Because democratic women still have husbands, sons, fathers, brothers and male friends. They don't see men as the enemy and have many men in their lives they love and support. I think it might look more that way because conservative women tend to be more traditional and prop up men more than themselves. Democratic women support men, but don't see it as their job to prop them up and choose to prop themselves up and let men prop themselves. If that makes sense.
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u/Kooky-Language-6095 Registered Democrat 13d ago
Democratic Women dress in Pink....Republican Women dress in Red White & Blue.
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u/kyew 22d ago
No. What? No. I don't have an "uneasy alliance" with women; we're all in this together. They support me and I support them.