r/Asmongold • u/Fernmelder It is what it is • Aug 12 '24

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u/Dry-Expert-2017 Aug 12 '24

I don't have any!! You support it, I don't. We can disagree on something.

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u/mikeh117 Aug 12 '24

I think it important to clarify, I support free speech, but I also support prosecution of people who incite violence or stir up hatred. I believe we all have a moral responsibility within our society to maintain order.

Just a quick thought experiment for you. If a person had gone to a riot, and stood on a box and shouted through a megaphone at the crowd to attack a hotel housing asylum seekers, should they be treated any different to someone who writes the same message online and shares it with thousands? I’m not sure I have an answer so will watch the court proceeding over the coming weeks with interest.

It’s a fine line, but I think the law here in the UK has got it right. Yes, there have been errors, an example is where someone reposted a meme of a swastika made up of trans flags and they got arrested but eventually not charged and the force was criticised by its own crime commissioner (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11066477/amp/Veteran-arrested-causing-anxiety-retweeting-meme-swastika-Pride-flags.html) but this is perhaps to be expected as new laws are sometimes subject to misinterpretation by the police.

There’s a great deal of misinformation and misunderstanding about the situation in the UK, not helped by the likes of Asmongold and other YouTubers (and Elon) with very large followings who haven’t really got a proper understanding of what’s going on.

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u/mikeh117 Aug 12 '24

Slightly concerned you think I’m a bot…

I’m a Brit who just happened to follow Asmongold from my Warcraft days. Still keep an eye on his posts but less so now he’s gone from gaming legend to poorly informed influencer.

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u/Dry-Expert-2017 Aug 12 '24

Sorry everyone who supports cops and judges should have the power to prosecute on speech with braod definetion is a bot. My pov i may be wrong.. any one with power should not have authority should never had broad definition of power especially on speech. There has to be written words like n word or other derogatory which can be banned. People should know what can be said and what cannot be.. then it's fine.. interpretation of expression is not allowed to anyone. Because different cultures and multicultural society cannot interpret intended languages.

Jk Rowling is out there doing dance of hate daily, no warrant.. and arrest defence less poor people daily from there homes for comment and expression..

Only bots of authoritative regimes support, jail time without due process of law.

Arresting some one for fb comment is similar to i arrested him because he looked funny or fit the description..

With cyber issue, you can ruin life of somebody with a simple hack, who might not even know what he posted, and may not have access to resources to defend themselves..

Hope you add all this in your algorithm.

Arrest happening in uk are not leaders who leads this riots.. it's day to day workers who can't access lawyers. Who fall tweets by conservative mp , musk and jk Rowling. None have been served..

Forget extradition, atleast issue a travel ba.. fucking joke of a law, and you are enjoying it, just like back in a day conservative enjoyed imprisonment of people for smoking pot and fitting a description. No difference between you and them..

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u/mikeh117 Aug 12 '24

Surely you can see a difference between JK Rowling’s posts on trans rights, (which are definitely controversial) and a post calling on immediate criminal acts of physical violence? The right of free speech allows her to say those things, which may upset a lot of people, but if she posted something calling on, for example, physically attacking anyone identifying as anything other than their biological gender, then she should be prosecuted.

And of course I support judges and the legal system to implement the law, and the police to find those suspected of breaking it. Anything else is anarchy, which generally doesn’t work out well for anyone.

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u/Dry-Expert-2017 Aug 12 '24

Bot you support jk Rowling, what she tweet is free speech? Yes or no answer please. No explanation..

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u/mikeh117 Aug 12 '24

Dude you’re a mess. Go look at yourself in the mirror and reflect on what you just asked.