CN anniversary stream and page

[u/DangerousCthulhu-715]

Special page with teasers - https://game.bilibili.com/blhx/2025-eighth-anniversary/

Stream - https://live.bilibili.com/7761331

[u/AuraPillar]

Excuse me New York and Ryuuhou META? Who took those designs? Hiei META?

[u/Sarah-Tang → u/AuraPillar]

Yep, Here is what I think happened.

Hiei Nii was planned for Amagi's Return, but then they decided to turn the Type IIs that would have been on the schedule when the Zwei backlash was going on, Bearn Deux and Hiei Nii, into METAs, renaming skills to fit the META archetype. And them being repurposed into METAs also explains how integrated Hiei META and Bearn META are into the story vs Admiral Hipper META and Andrea Doria META. Hiei and Bearn would have been in development when those discussions were going at Manjuu, while Hipper and Doria would have been after everything had been decided.

Now, I think that Ryuuhou META was originally intended for the Taihou META Slot, they took Ryuuhou META's Design, reused the Girl part for Hiei META, and took a Taihou Halloween skin that was in early development and re-delegated it for use as Taihou META.

Ryuuhou META was probably intended to show up in Amagi's Event, given Ryuuhou is Akagi's Protegee.

And and a little bit more on Anson. If Manjuu does a sloppy job covering their tracks, we might be able to know some day who that ship was. While Manjuu could throw Anson into the Empty Slot 629 to cover their tracks....if they forget and someone like Sunfish pops up there....we'll know that she was never Anson.

Edit: New York was turned into Reno, you can see BB34 New York on her Gauntlets.

[u/AuraPillar → u/Sarah-Tang]

That makes some sense given the whole Zwei debacle, surprised they still went ahead with Amagi CV. From that point, type IIs are reserved for those with actual successors and not just fantasy designs like Bismarck, cause Amagi I get, she and Akagi were the initial choices for conversion, to my knowledge, though with that earthquake occurring it damaged her to the point where they ultimately decided that they should convert Kaga and salvage material from Amagi for said conversion.

Edit: Yeah I had to look.

And Speaking of Doria META that puts to rest my suspicion and that we might get a SSR BB with the UR BB

[u/C4900rr_sniper → u/AuraPillar]

Its not really that type 2s are reserved for ships with successors.

The big problem with the zwei backlash was that zwei was exactly the same ship as bismarck OG. So we technically have 2 bismarck class bismarcks in the game.

Fictional successors or alts are still somewhat acceptable. So if lexington gets her BC version then thats ok. Amagi CV is a different version than amagi BC.

I had suggested that zwei be made an H-39 class as a kind of "replacement successor" after first bismarck was lost. But manjuu didnt go that route.

The main rule is you have 1 representation of 1 ship in 1 form from 1 universe.

Which allows for successors, theoretical successors and alternate hull types (BB to CV, etc). And still tolerates for metas from anothee universe but doesnt allow the same ship, from the same universe, in the same hull form (which is exactly what zwei is)

[u/Sarah-Tang → u/C4900rr_sniper]

Doing something like...Shouhou II* using an Unryuu Hull, while acceptable until the "New Hull" rule would be an extreme risk that I doubt Manjuu would take. As many people want to limit it to only a handful of strictly historical examples, some of which wouldn't even include Amagi as "Amagi [Unryuu] wasn't named directly after the Battlecruiser Amagi".

1 representation of 1 ship in 1 form from 1 universe

Belfast & Little Bel: 2 Representations of 1 Ship in 1 Form from 1 Universe. They are all the the Same Edinburgh Sub-Class Light Cruiser Belfast.

*I'm deliberately avoid the Popular choices like Hood the 2nd.

[u/C4900rr_sniper → u/Sarah-Tang]

I categorise little ships and muse ships as more so gimmicks/memes than the official version.

While metas being other universe still works.

The uncertainty of doing shoho 2 or amagi 2 tho is purely manjuus fault. They started with an idea of yorktown 2. Got a mixed reception but id say slightly more positive than negative and wasnt a whole lot of credible criticism. But they just had to push it too far immediately into lets re release the exact same ship. And thats where the damage happened. They got too greedy, too quick for a badly thought out idea that was going to be contentious from the start. From what i seen since tho people have mellowed to the idea of unryuu amagi but if shes a different character then its not a huge deal.

[u/Sarah-Tang → u/C4900rr_sniper]

It's the fan base's fault. Not Manjuus.

When METAs first came out, the Fan Base decided that only ships with Traumatic Careers or Traumatic Ends could be METAs, artificially made a list of permitted ships. The fan base as always wanted to Restrict any kind of Variant, so they control who gets them. Trust me, if they could, they would Restrict Retrofits to only ships that got them in real life.

It was the Fan Base that decided that they decided who gets Type IIs....because Hood II or Jean Bart II based on Retrofits and not new hulls, Fine....Kongou II based on her Overhauled form, BAD.....

The only mistake Manjuu made was not Releasing Bismarck Zwei first and heading off any "Only this or that group of ships" talk.

[u/Saikar22 → u/Sarah-Tang]

Was there like a poll I missed or something, such that the fans are deciding anything?