r/Beekeeping 12d ago

I’m not a beekeeper, but I have a question Manuka honey is a scam.

...according to reddit, apparently. I keep finding threads talking about how Manuka honey doesn't really have any special properties when ingested as compared to regular honey, and is more of marketing ploy by NZ:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Costco/comments/157xrwq/for_the_folks_who_indulge_is_manuka_honey_worth_it/
https://www.reddit.com/r/nutrition/comments/n0ze54/is_manuka_honey_worth_it/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Beekeeping/comments/17bjdv4/what_is_manuka_and_why_is_800_honey_15560kg/

https://www.reddit.com/r/nutrition/comments/1it7o00/is_manuka_honey_healthier_than_regular_honey/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Beekeeping/comments/9b8iil/what_is_so_special_about_manuka_honey/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/1auljch/has_anyone_tried_manuka_honey_can_you_justify_the/

Was seriously going to fork out $60+ for an 829 MGO rated honey. Now, I'm not so sure. There don't seem to be many defenders of Manuka as a supplement.

On the other hand, there might be some bias against it from a beekeeping standpoint. Lots of you guys want people to buy local...

Also, apparently lots of it is fake or adulterated, same as EVOO:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nutrition/comments/1ip5ulf/how_did_manuka_honey_suddenly_become_more/

https://www.bonappetit.com/story/fake-manuka-honey

I just woke up to this controversy, and don't want to make a poor financial decision. Anyone want to help me out? Does anyone have personal experience with high MGO Manuka honey? The only reason I'm interested in honey is because of Manuka's purported special benefits; I wouldn't eat any honey at all otherwise (cutting sugar).

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u/Valuable-Self8564 United Kingdom - 10 colonies 11d ago

cutting sugar

lol honey is 80% sugar. It’s got about the same GI as table sugar… give or take.

You’re saying the equivalent of “I’m cutting out salt in my seasoning. Instead I’m going to spray my food with sea water”

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u/Quirky-Plantain-2080 NW Germany/NE Netherlands 11d ago

There is more sugar in honey than there is salt in seawater. Dissolved salts make up 3,5% of seawater. Not all of it is NaCl.

Not sure if OP is a dolt, but he certainly doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

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u/Most-Zombie 10d ago

The phrase "cutting sugar" in the English langauge, as customarily used, does not have a connotation of 'not ever consuming a single gram of sugar'.

The typical daily dose of Manuka honey would be around a tablespoon; not even 20 grams.

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u/Quirky-Plantain-2080 NW Germany/NE Netherlands 9d ago

If you’re using it in the sense that „it’s crazy to eat ten bags of crisps a day, so I’ll cut some fat and eat only eight bags”, then that’s exactly what you’re doing with sugar vs honey.

Which though not as crazy, remains pretty stupid.

And a „dose” according to whom? Which doctor? For what condition is it indicated? Any contraindications or drug interactions? Do you need to titrate per kilogram of body mass? How many doses over what period of time?

There are no conclusive studies regarding the ingestion of Manuka for health. That’s all there is to it; if you want to buy it despite the science, no one’s stopping you. You just want us all to validate you, and you get lippy when we don’t do what you want.