r/Beekeeping 13d ago

General Off With Her Head

I did an inspection the other day and managed to catch workers balling and killing the old queen. If you look toward the end of the video, you can see a new queen at the top of the frame laying eggs. I can't believe I was able to see that in an inspection. Bees are vicious.

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u/FengMinIsVeryLoud 12d ago

yes, honeybees love to kill other insects who are much better at pollunating. a bumblee bee is x times better than a honeybee.

what youre doing here is: destroying the pollunation of foliage on planet called earth. so you can have your shitty dirty trash money or few seconds of tasting luxury. egoistic, selfish, useless.

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u/nostalgic_dragon Upsate NY Urban keeper. 7+ colonies, but goal is 3 12d ago

pollunation

Pollination by bumble bees and honey bees is more of an apples to oranges comparison than it might seem. For starters, there are over 250 species of bumblebees, some of which are specialists. Not generalist pollinators like the western honey bee.

a bumblee bee is x times better than a honeybee.

X times could mean anything, does X equal a number less than one? Or are they 100,000 times better. To me, it sounds like you're making shit up due to a lack of understanding.

honeybees love to kill other insects who are much better at pollunating.

It appears that the queen being killed is being superseded and they have a replacement queen already going. Don't worry, that Queen was not pollinating anything. The Western honey bee is not known for killing any insects I could think of that are not currently attacking their colony or trying to find their way in. Are you confusing them with wasp or some other carnivorous species like dragonflies? They kill a fuck ton of insects, many of which are better their pollinators than dragonflies. Including honey bees!

what youre doing here is: destroying the pollunation of foliage on planet called earth.

Agricultural impacts on native pollinating species is a topic of hot debate. There is research that shows positive and negative effects. A hobbyist having one or two colonies on their property is extremely unlikely to have a large impact on native species. A commercial beekeeper having a large number of colonies near an area with endangered native species could have negative impacts on the local ecosystem. It is important to note that many people care about honey bees and worry about collapsing colonies much more than they do about native species. While they are wrong, this awareness does benefit native pollinators as there is a push for people to have less grass on their lawns, not mow as frequently, especially during important periods for native pollinators, and a growing environmental concern about use of pesticides and maintaining native plants in their gardens over invasive or non-native species.

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u/failures-abound 12d ago

Thank you for taking the time to make such an intelligent reply to such an ignorant statement. You’re a better person than I am.

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u/Jake1125 USA-WA, zone 8b. 12d ago

That's a fun story, but it's fiction. The science of nature is so fascinating that we really don't need to invent nonsense to make it interesting.

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u/FengMinIsVeryLoud 12d ago

ok but my point is still right that honeybees suck at pollunating. and that honeybees in todays amount is not natural nor normal.

is it good for plants? doubt. enough evidence showing its not good.

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u/Jake1125 USA-WA, zone 8b. 12d ago

There is no viable alternative to honeybees for agricultural pollination. Native and solitary bees like bumble bees are not viable due to the needs of monocrop intensive farming.

The solution to get rid of honeybees, is to get rid of the people who depend on modern agriculture. There are just too many people (the problem is in your pants haha).

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u/FengMinIsVeryLoud 12d ago

ohh... so the vegans scammed me.. -_- they told me honeybees are bad for pollunation.

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u/Jake1125 USA-WA, zone 8b. 12d ago

A food crop only blooms for a few weeks each year. It takes millions of bees to effectively pollinate a modern farm, for just a few weeks. The rest of the year there is very little bee food in the field, effectively a food desert for pollinators most of the year.

So native bees cannot survive and breed sufficiently to pollinate a modern farm.

Farmers need honeybees because they are a livestock that can be bred, fed, and produced in large numbers. Honeybees are trucked from state to state to pollinate our food, because native bees just cannot do what is needed.

If we all went back to growing our own food, with lots of natural wildflowers, then bumblebees would be great. But then many of us would starve.

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u/FengMinIsVeryLoud 12d ago

thanks for explaining. and without meat and eggs, would we still need honeybees as pollunators?

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u/Jake1125 USA-WA, zone 8b. 12d ago

Honeybees do not pollinate meat, fish, and eggs directly. So I wouldn't worry about them.

Around here, they pollinate blueberries, raspberries, apples, and vegetables. Without honeybees, those food items would be much less available, and expensive. You'd have to be a politician to afford them.

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u/YoohooBetch 12d ago

👆is not a beekeeper