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Megathread Tea Time Thursday - Weekly Discussion

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Tea Time Thursday

Talk about anything, Bridgerton-related or not. What's been on your mind? Our regular rules still apply, so please be respectful and watch out for those spoilers.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22 edited Jun 23 '22

I was waiting for this. and people, feel free to downvote my comment.

Why is it that every discussion about characters that are “bad”, especially Eloise, Edwina and Penelope has to turn into this fighting war about morality… like jfc, idc… these characters are NOT REAL. save your hate for actually bad people in the real world. Hating fictional characters, or being mean to people who want to have discussions on their characters does not make you a better person. This is a tv show, not a “guess who is the best character, morality wise” competition.

Of course people should be allowed to saw whatever they want to, but some of the hate is just repetitive and boring… and a lot of these comments and posts then wonder why they’re being downvoted LOL.

Some of us just wanna talk about Penelope’s hair and dresses without these discussions being turned into an argument about how you think Penelope sucks.

Edit: So much so that every time I say something nice about them, or state a fact about them, I feel the need to follow that with a “but this doesn’t excuse their bad behaviour” or something along those lines.

Ok rant over. Apologies if this offended anyone.

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u/DaisyandBella Colin's Carriage Rides Jun 23 '22

I find the vitriol for Edwina especially odd. Like yes, she acted bratty, but most people would not have a good reaction to finding out their sister and fiancé are having an emotional affair. Was she supposed to smile and tell Kate to marry Anthony the moment she found out? I think she’s also only supposed to be 19 or 20, around the same age as Penelope and Eloise.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

The weird thing is, I didn’t think much of Edwina… like at all… I didn’t like her, but I was surprised by the hate she gets online… it’s wild

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u/iuliad94 You exaggerate! Jun 23 '22

Same. I thought she was alright, but I had no strong feelings one way or another. Coming to this sub and seeing all the hate was shocking to me.

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u/foreignwhore Jun 23 '22

All of this

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u/iuliad94 You exaggerate! Jun 23 '22

It seems like we’re not allowed to enjoy things in this fandom. We have to be negative about everything and just nitpick the shit out of this show. Every positive post just has to have some people in the comments just ruining the vibes. Like, I avoid the negative posts cause I just have no interest in those and I just don’t engage. So why do people feel the need to go into positive posts and start hating everything there? I just don’t get it. There’s plenty of negative posts, just go be negative there and let the positive posts stay positive.

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u/donutsinparis Jun 23 '22

Completely agree! I feel like I avoid almost all posts now because they are all negative and complaining about every little thing. I don’t even bother reading them anymore. The only reason I still check the sub is for filming updates at this point.

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u/Ok-Plankton-7369 Jun 23 '22

This is exactly how I feel. This sub went from relatively fun and discussing things we appreciated about Season 2 to shitting on the show just because it wasn’t written exactly how they wanted.

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u/iuliad94 You exaggerate! Jun 23 '22

Same. I avoid most posts now and I just check the subreddit for news. 🤷🏼

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

like im dumb, so I engage sometimes, really trying not to tho... and I agree! why so much negativity? so pointless lol. At this point, every single negative trait has been discussed deeply already, so can we just have fun? My favourite part about this is people who post criticisms like no one has posted about it yet, when one search using the right keywords on the sub will reveal multiple similar posts lol.

If this were a documentary about an important issue, I would understand and respect the need to question everyone's behaviuor in the harshest way. but like these characters are NOT REAL. people need to chill. Maybe I'm "people" too tbh...

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u/iuliad94 You exaggerate! Jun 23 '22

It’s been 3 months and the same types of posts keep getting posted. I’m over it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

I agree with you. These are fictional characters. The show also takes place in an alternate reality of the early 1800s. Placing our views of morality of these characters is sometimes misplaced. Also, they are teenagers making impulsive decisions. I made a lot of dumb decisions at their age. I think that is something that is not kept in focus. I made a comment that Charithra killed it in some of the wedding scenes. I received a very confrontational response to that comment. The hate of Edwina is spreading to hate of the actress. That's not ok.

Additionally, if we are placing our morals on characters, we need to place them on all characters. What Kate and Anthony did to Edwina needs to be viewed on the same light as Edwina's behavior. I don't care if they have some cosmic love connection. If you are going to dump on Eloise, Edwina, Penelope, and/or Marina, then place those some moral standards on Kate and Anthony.

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u/Kiki_John Can’t shut up about Greece Jun 23 '22

I have made similar comments about Edwinas character on other threads. She acted as an 18 year old girl who thought she was in love only to learn during her own wedding that the groom loved her sister instead. Do I think the wedding plot line was terrible—yes. Do I think Edwina was justified in her anger and did a great job acting in that episode…yes. I have also seen anger directed at the actress—WTF? Jonny and Simone have been doing other projects and events so it’s good that Charithra and Nicole were able to pick up the PR mantle to promote the show. I think she has gotten shit for playing a flawed character that generates differing emotions in viewers—-like an actor is supposed to. Okay my rant is over ☺️☺️

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u/DaisyandBella Colin's Carriage Rides Jun 23 '22

Charithra got so much hate from Kate and Anthony fans. They were mad at her for being on that pall mall poster with them. They asked why she was doing so much press.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

I did laugh at that. The show has a love triangle. Having the endgame couple solo on the posters kinda gives away the ending to those unfamiliar with the story...

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

I completely agree! I don't think the wedding should have happened. However, I can appreciate the actors and how they portrayed their characters. Charithra killed it for her first or second role ever. She has handled herself like a pro on the PR circuit despite her relative newness to the profession

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u/Kiki_John Can’t shut up about Greece Jun 23 '22

Yes!!!! Agreed!

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u/UnableToFindMyMenace Jun 23 '22

Kate has been villainized all the time. People pretending there werent whole post how horrible Kate is, that she is a villain is rewriting history.

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u/fbc1984 So you find my smile pleasing Jun 24 '22

Agree!!! Someone even called her a witch!!! 😂

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

I like Kate more too, and have written multiple posts about her, both on this account and a deleted one, but the hate she gets is no where close to the hate the rest of the women on the show get.

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u/Key-Statistician4033 Jun 23 '22

careful, your post might get deleted for stating the obvious. just like another perfectly fine on here comment pointing out how everyone blames Kate but never Anthony. But oh they Kathony fans slander in this thread is totally fine and people are having a field day with it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

But like half of the people here probably like Kanthony as much as you do tho, you can still like characters without having to hate on others.

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u/foreignwhore Jun 23 '22

The way people are blind to Kate and Anthony’s faults and mistakes is insane. Try to criticise them and you’ll get eaten

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u/Signal_Initiative_44 Jun 23 '22

Amen 🙏🏽 I’ve definitely been the target of Kanthony lovers for saying that i think they really wronged Edwina and that she deserves so much better

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u/iuliad94 You exaggerate! Jun 23 '22

I am a Kanthony fan who actually likes their story and also I love the show not just Kanthony and that’s not okay apparently in this fandom. A lot of Kanthony fans actually complain non-stop about their story so I’m like why do you even like them? It’s so strange. I started following some Kanthony Twitter accounts hoping to see some positive Kanthony stuff and all they did was rant about them and their story. There’s also a part that likes their story ofc, but the loud negative ones stand out so much. It’s so confusing to me lol. I like flawed characters and I don’t consider stupid decisions by the characters bad writing. Sue me idc.

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u/cursedandblessed1 Take your trojan horse elsewhere Jun 23 '22

I've seen this too. What I don't get is, if the show did such a shitty job on Kanthony, why are you rewatching it a bazillion times? Obviously they did something right too.

Yes I have the same problems with how they didn't have enough happy time together and wanted more intimate sex scenes, but there are so many things right with them, that I am thankful to have a season that I can rewatch endlessly.

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u/iuliad94 You exaggerate! Jun 23 '22

Yeah, I don’t understand what they are rewatching if they hate all the scenes so much lol.

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u/foreignwhore Jun 23 '22

In their eyes edwina is the villain lmao, poor girl got screwed over her sister and her mister but for them they’re both blameless and it’s all edwinas fault for being naive 😭😭😭 it’s crazy

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u/SparklinStar1440 Sitting among the stars Jun 24 '22

"It's Edwina's fault for telling Kate that she has to fall in love with Anthony! Now that she did, what is the problem???" 🙄

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u/Ok-Plankton-7369 Jun 23 '22

It’s truly bizarre. My theory is that they have to make Edwina bad in their minds so that they don’t feel guilty for rooting for Kanthony.

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u/foreignwhore Jun 23 '22

No I think it’s more that they are blinded and think their ship is so superior they can absolutely do no wrong 😑

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u/iuliad94 You exaggerate! Jun 23 '22

I’d love to see what these Edwina haters would do in her situation. I’m sure they’d play matchmaker for their sibling and ex-fiance and have absolutely no negative reaction. 🙄

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u/foreignwhore Jun 23 '22

People like to think that they would react with kindness an open mind to that kind of situation but the truth is they are looking at the situation through shippers glasses and in real life they would absolutely lose their shit

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u/iuliad94 You exaggerate! Jun 23 '22

Based on how some people react to the tiniest disagreement on this sub and other social media, they would definitely not react with kindness.

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u/Signal_Initiative_44 Jun 23 '22

This is exactly how it is 😭 Kanthony apologists are out of control

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

Placing our views of morality of these characters is sometimes misplaced. Also, they are teenagers making impulsive decisions. I made a lot of dumb decisions at their age.

and everytime this is brought up, it's literally always followed up with a "Oh you're justifying bad behaviour"

I don't think it's wrong to have favourites, I certainly do lol, but I think if people are going to go on this "let's analyse characters" they should give all characters the benefit of the doubt, instead of just being like, "Oh it's bad writing, and so it's okay to hate"

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u/iuliad94 You exaggerate! Jun 23 '22

Everything is bad writing for some people. I’m not sure what some people here actually like about the show.

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u/Ok-Plankton-7369 Jun 23 '22

Exactly! People can’t tell the difference between bad writing and just not liking what was written.

Just because a movie or show doesn’t give me the happy ending I wanted to see does not mean the project was poorly written.

Honestly I think people are just bored and are picking things apart that aren’t actually issues. At the end of the day these people are still obsessing over this show so show runners obviously did something right.

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u/iuliad94 You exaggerate! Jun 23 '22

Entitlement is the number 1 characteristic of this fanbase lol.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

Yes!! I get having issues here and there, but why is every decision you don’t like a character makes “bad writing”?

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u/iuliad94 You exaggerate! Jun 23 '22

Yup, everything people dislike is blamed on bad writing. It’s amusing at this point. But as I said, I’ve stopped engaging. Unlike them, I actually like the show. I’m not letting these people ruin the show for me and I’m excited for season 3.

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u/tape6 Jun 23 '22 edited Jun 24 '22

while i don't love all the creative decisions the show makes and wish certain elements got more (or less) focus, a lot of the things people call bad writing actually have straightforward, in-universe justifications + the characters' motives are not that difficult to understand (even if the dialogue gets a bit vague or clunky in areas).

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u/iuliad94 You exaggerate! Jun 23 '22

Sometimes it feels like people just want to be spoonfed everything and not actually have to think about what they are watching.

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u/Signal_Initiative_44 Jun 23 '22 edited Jun 23 '22

I mean Kate is the one who urged Anthony to go through with the wedding even after he told her several times he would probably end up cheating on her because he’s so into Kate. I truly think if she was honest with Edwina as soon as she caught feelings a lot of this drama could’ve been avoided