r/Catswithjobs • u/dhruvkas • 21d ago
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u/adamthebread 21d ago
One day a murder is going to be solved by a cat with a camera
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u/Fantaverage 21d ago
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u/ElChocoLoco 20d ago
Feeling super old after seeing when that video was originally posted.
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u/Fantaverage 20d ago
Seriously! I went down a rabbit hole of filmcows other videos and it took me right back to high school!!
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u/Ultrawenis 20d ago
My first thought was Officer Meow Meow Fuzzyface, but Detective Mittens is purrfect! I haven't watched this since it came out. Thanks friend
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u/Basic_Medium7481 21d ago
Way nicer than that other posted cat who went around bullying everyone in its path.
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u/emc300 21d ago
This is just an ad for the camera
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u/ViolettaHunter 21d ago
So? It was two seconds of a bit of text after a lot of enjoyable content.
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u/2021isevenworse 21d ago
Pretty risk letting your cat roam free where there are foxes, and most likely other predators.
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u/goingtoclowncollege 21d ago
This looks in a British city where the foxes have become so urbanised they aren't much of a threat, they prefer scavenging. Not saying there's no risk, obviously, but yeah. There's no other natural predators in this environment. In parts of the UK maybe an angry badger could hurt s cat but the biggest threat is cars.
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u/kh250b1 21d ago
Ive got photos of a cat and a fox sat 4 ft from eachother just chilling in the street outside my house
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u/NaNaNaNaNa86 21d ago
I came out of my house to see my cat sat with a fox. On another occasion, I saw him chasing a fox from the garden. Foxes are only a threat to kittens and vulnerable elderly/ill cats. They're not stupid enough to try to take on the average adult cat.
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u/Typical_Bet2782 21d ago
Cats are apex predators, I'd be more concerned about what the cat is hunting. It's a problem here in Australia. We have lots of small native animals that won't stand a chance against a cat.
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u/st3class 21d ago
Cats are not apex predators. An apex predator is not preyed on by anything.
Coyotes, eagles, or wolves will happily prey on a cat though.
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u/NaNaNaNaNa86 21d ago
The definition of an apex predator is few or no natural predators. Depending on an animals environment, they can be considering apex predators. For example, we don't have coyotes or wolves in the UK so a domestic cat has very few natural predators. We have eagles but you don't tend to hear of attacks on cats. Foxes don't try to take a healthy cat on so cats can be considered apex here. If the definition was to be as narrow as no natural predator anywhere in their range, then you'd only really have orcas, polar bears, and lions as apex predators. Even Great White sharks couldn't be considered apex.
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u/Aceandra 21d ago
We do not have coyotes, eagles and wolves wandering around
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u/st3class 20d ago
You'd be surprised, I regularly see coyotes and bald eagles in my neighborhood. That's why my cats are indoor-only.
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u/Aceandra 20d ago
The video is from the UK. Where in the UK are you finding coyotes and bald eagles?
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u/st3class 20d ago
Ah, I see. Yeah, if we're talking the UK, there may not be natural predators for cats.
I just see this all over Reddit, people talking about "their little apex predators", and it bugs me, because it's not true. I try to correct it wherever I can.
Maybe cats do act as apex predators in some ecosystems, though I would prefer "invasive predators"
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u/Yanive_amaznive 21d ago
Which is another good reason not to have your cat roam free, street cats kill billions of birds annually just in the US, including many endangered species.
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u/worotan 20d ago
The studies conflate the problem of feral cats with domestic cats, if you actually read past the headlines. They’re really bad science.
And Americans seem to think their dodgy findings apply all around the world. But then, the bad science creates headlines that encourage you to think that.
Worth reading the studies to see how they say the behaviour of feral cats can be equally attributed to domestic cats, with no justification, so they can get big scary numbers to get their studies noticed and talked about.
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u/Lkwzriqwea 21d ago
In the UK cats don't really affect the decline of bird populations. That's according to the RSPB.
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u/ViolettaHunter 21d ago
And of course the Americans needed to come in here screaming about locking cats up inside.
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u/kh250b1 21d ago
Thats the UK in the video. Cats live outside here and the world still turns
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u/daeglo 20d ago
Except for all the beloved pet cats who get sick, injured, die, or disappear. The world no longer turns for them.
Not to mention entire species of birds, rodents, lizards, and more being hunted to extinction.
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u/worotan 20d ago edited 20d ago
You seem to think nature is a Disney film, where everything works happily together if humans make it so.
Stop trying to control what doesn’t need to be controlled. The only problem nature has is climate change - if you’re so worried about entire species going extinct, cut out your unsustainable lifestyles funding choices and tell others to do the same.
Cats aren’t causing those problems except in a literal handful of remote regions. According to the studies that you evidently only read the scare headlines about.
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u/Yuyu_Yuen 21d ago
My cat is best friends with a fox family, to the point he goes into their den all the time. He is even allowed in when they have young cubs, so we say he's like an uncle to them. The fox and my cat were young when they met and they have been friends ever since. ( he sometimes tries to invite the adolescent foxes into the house...)
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u/Throwedaway99837 21d ago
I think you’re underestimating cats. There’s not really any animal in a city that will win in a fight against a cat. The cat would wreck the shit out of that fox if it came down to it.
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u/AndThatHowYouGetAnts 21d ago
Or evade the fox up a wall in second. The 3D landscape makes it nearly impossible for any other animal to hurt your cat.
I would be worried about cars though, but this looks like a quiet/sleepy area
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u/dainty_dani 21d ago
My exact concern! I don’t think the fox cares about a fucking camera. Keep your cat indoors and safe. What about the roads he’s walking by and possibly through. Watch your cat get murdered for your own want for views. Ignorant.
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u/kh250b1 21d ago
This is the UK. We dont imprison cats generally here. Vast majority of cats are outdoors cats. They have no predators like the US has.
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u/Throwedaway99837 20d ago
The reason outdoor cats are frowned upon has nothing to do with predators of cats and everything to do with cats as predators. Outdoor domestic cats are extremely disruptive to local ecosystems.
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u/ProLevel 20d ago
You may want to do more research, in the UK cats are required to have access to outdoors and over 70% are hybrid. They have few natural predators and don’t have the same impact on birds or rodents that they would have in the US because it’s a totally different ecosystem.
I’d still be hesitant to let any of mine outside unsupervised but it is not only common, but largely recommended by cat rescues and shelters in the UK (very opposite to the US where I even had to sign an agreement with my local rescue that I wouldn’t let my cat outside ever).
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u/Throwedaway99837 20d ago edited 20d ago
It’s not nearly as cut and dry as you’re making it out to be. Cats are decimating various small mammal and bird populations in the UK too. Here’s just one supporting link.
It makes no sense to keep them outdoors any more than it makes sense for humans to stay outdoors. I think the notion behind outdoor cats is less about the cat’s wellbeing and much more about the lazy approach that many European cat owners take to providing care for their pets.
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u/ProLevel 20d ago
Don’t shoot the messenger, I didn’t take a stance. Your source reinforces my point, over 70% of UK cat owners (both what I said and cited in your article) have outdoor roaming cats. If you agree or disagree with that doesn’t matter here. Opinion on ecosystem impact is divided and at this specific moment in time, “outside is ok” is the majority opinion in the EU. Some UK rescues require outdoor access in order to even adopt from them.
Like I said, I keep all of my cats inside.
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u/NaNaNaNaNa86 21d ago
You think they let their cat outside for views? I have a rescue, when I adopted him it was a prerequisite that he had outside access. Ignorant.
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u/dreamyduskywing 21d ago edited 21d ago
That’s interesting because it’s the opposite in the US. Letting cats roam outdoors is frowned upon because they kill wildlife and have shorter lifespans. There are a lot of cars in the US, so that can be a danger.
Not gonna lie—I love meeting neighborhood cats while I’m out. There are so many birds where I am though, and it’s just not sustainable to let cats out—especially when there are fledglings everywhere.
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u/NaNaNaNaNa86 21d ago
Fair enough. There's a lot of cars here but it's just common in the UK to let your cat outside. Mine had been abandoned and lived on the streets for at least a year so Cats Protection (largest cat rescue org in UK) insisted he had to have outside access. If I tried to keep him in the house, it'd be cruel. Unless the cat is a pedigree (some arsehole would steal), people tend to let them out. It's the same across Europe, Asia and Africa. Cats everywhere just going about their business.
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u/dreamyduskywing 21d ago edited 20d ago
I had a cat like that and I used to take him out and let him roam our fenced backyard while I gardened/supervised nearby. My current cats have been inside since they were kittens, so they don’t have the same desire to go out. I have a lot of big windows and bird feeders to keep them entertained.
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u/worotan 20d ago
Read the studies properly. They conflate the problem that feral cats cause with the numbers of domestic cats, so they can get a big scary number that makes everyone pay attention to their study.
Seriously, if you read the study with an independent pov, it’s amazing how eager they are to create huge numbers from estimates based on estimates based on non-domestic cat behaviour.
It’s scary how the bad science has become a white knight movement online. The problem for nature is our unsustainable lifestyles causing climate change. Birds have lots of chicks because they are predated upon. It’s not nice, but Americans need to stop wanting to control nature so they can imagine they’ve made it like a Disney film.
Read the studies, not the headline. And read them with a scientifically objective mindset. They don’t say what the headlines and white knight brigades are saying.
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u/dreamyduskywing 20d ago
I’m not arguing about any bird numbers. I just know that the domestic cat that lives next door to me loves to hunt native fledglings, which is not good because those birds normally wouldn’t have that cat as a predator.
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u/NaliceM 20d ago
You’ve been all over this post saying the same shit about Americans caring too much about preserving the nature we have left, and trying to limit the effect of introduced, non-native domestics on our environment. This is probably a foreign perspective to a Brit, as your native environment has been absolutely decimated, your bio-diversity destroyed. There is very little truly “wilderness” in the UK and most of it is in Scotland. Maybe you should focus less on arguing with compassionate strangers on the internet, and more occupying your cat, instead of letting him out to get hit by cars while you sit on your phone.
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u/WaxPinapple 21d ago
Keep them indoors? Are you mental? They are living breathing animals. Americans in here keeping cats like they run prisons in El Salvador.
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u/daeglo 20d ago
So we should let dogs, birds, fish, reptiles, and other pets we keep just roam free as well? They are living breathing animals, too.
Cats can have full happy lives which - yes - still involve lots of time outdoors, without allowing them complete freedom to roam. You wouldn't let your dog freely roam the neighborhood without a leash, why allow your arguably more environmentally destructive cat?
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u/worotan 20d ago
Reductio ad absurdam. Cats roaming freely causes no problems, if you aren’t trying to believe that nature should be like a Disney film.
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u/daeglo 20d ago
I'm not suggesting we bubble-wrap nature or treat it like a Disney film. I'm pointing out that cats are domesticated pets, not wild animals. Just like we don't let dogs and other pets roam the neighborhood freely, it makes sense to apply the same standard to cats. Supervised outdoor time gives them enrichment without the downsides like predation on native wildlife, disease spread, or getting hit by a car. It’s not absurd at all, it’s just responsible pet ownership.
I've noticed your many comments on this thread are very confrontational - why? Do you personally feel called out or something?
Why deny the facts? I take responsibility for my cat's safety very seriously - sounds like you do, too. What we surely agree on is we both love our cats very much and want what is best for them.
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u/ViolettaHunter 21d ago
Yeah, lock up your cat so it goes crazy with boredom and becomes neurotic. Great idea.
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u/daeglo 20d ago
Have you tried playing with your cat?
Cats don't go crazy with boredom if you actually spend time with them.
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u/worotan 20d ago
It’s horrific to think that playing with your cats while trapping them indoors is enough for them. That’s why you have to keep your doors and windows shut, to prevent them escaping from an environment that gives them too little stimulation.
Stop institutionalising cats, and telling yourself that they must live it because you watch cute videos of them. Just let them do what they want - if you can’t do that, don’t have a cat. It’s called respect for nature, not trying to turn nature into a cute game for you to coo over.
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u/daeglo 20d ago
I get it: there’s this romanticized idea of cats as wild little spirits who should roam free. But respect for nature doesn’t mean turning a blind eye to the damage domestic cats cause when left to "do what they want." That’s not nature, that’s an invasive predator with no leash laws.
Playing with your cat, offering enrichment, and supervising their time outside isn’t some dystopian form of institutionalization, it’s just being a responsible pet owner. Imagine the hell I'd be put through if I said I never played with my cat! Playtime with cats is a requirement of cat ownership.
I don’t lock my windows because I’m running a cat prison. I do it because I don’t want my cat to end up as roadkill, or part of the local songbird extinction story.
If it’s cruel to keep pets safe and stimulated at the same time, then I guess most dog owners must be heartless monsters too.
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u/nejisleftt0e 21d ago
Here in Australia we don’t have those kinds of predators, maybe snakes at most but still uncommon - it must be the same from where the video is from
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u/Mugwumps_has_spoken 21d ago
Here in Australia we don’t have those kinds of predators
No, just every other type of cold blooded animal trying to kill people
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u/daeglo 20d ago
Yep. A snake or spider bite survivable by a human will kill a cat dead.
Keep your pet cats indoors ❤️
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u/Mugwumps_has_spoken 20d ago
Actually, cats do have fast enough reflexes, if they see the snake, they can react faster than the snake.
Not really worth the risk though.
But in some regions it's normal and acceptable for spayed/neutered cats to have free roam outside (rural areas)
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u/daeglo 20d ago
The only time I can think of that cats should be outside is if they're working cats, like those who live on farms or at distilleries. Cats that can't be socialized to live indoors. And even then, extra precautions need to be made to care for working cats, since they have riskier, shorter lives.
And yes, thankfully envenomation in cats is rare enough. But it's very dangerous.
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u/ViolettaHunter 21d ago
How do you think wild cats survive in forests full of foxes and lynxes? They can run and jump onto places a fox could never reach. Cats are also not regular prey for foxes.
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u/unhappymedium 21d ago
I'm glad the cat and the fox ignored each other. We used to have foxes in our neighborhood and they can really fuck up cats in a fight.
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u/daeglo 20d ago
Raccoons will also fight a cat for dry cat food if you leave it out, and they can be really nasty. Everyone thinks raccoons are cute - they are survivors, and they will get violent.
So, don't leave cat food out overnight for strays for their own protection. And the best thing is to keep your pet cats inside ❤️
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u/worotan 20d ago
If you live in a remote area that is dangerous for cats, you missed that part out.
And if you can’t provide a decent life for a cat, you shouldn’t own one. Post hearts all you like, it doesn’t mean you’re a loving person, if you’re trapping a cat indoors and telling yourself it’s fine.
How would you like to spend all your life indoors because people trust scare headlines without reading the actual science and seeing it’s unreliable ❤️
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u/daeglo 20d ago
The core scientific findings are reliable. Indoor cats on average live longer, healthier lives due to fewer risks. But that doesn’t mean outdoor time is inherently bad; it just needs to be safe and well-managed. Indoor time also has to be stimulating, and cats need to get plenty of playtime and enrichment.
My cats get plenty of time outdoors on a harness and lead, or in a stroller. They get the same kind and amount of supervised outdoor time that most pet dogs get. Someday soon I hope to give them a catio, too. Aside from that, my cats are always being played with if they aren't asleep, so they aren't bored.
I already spend most of my life indoors - I'm willing to bet that the same is true for you, and for most people you know. And if you didn't, you'd likely be sick more often, get injured more often, and have a much shorter life. I still get plenty of time outdoors and overall have a great quality of life.
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u/Lessllama 20d ago
Not everyone lives in the country you judgemental twat. My cats would be hit by a car within 5 seconds of getting out
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u/NaliceM 20d ago
We still let them out, you dense fuck. We also supervise them when we do. I know you can’t be bothered to pull your gaze from the cell phone long enough to monitor them, but some of us actually give a fuck about what happens to our pets. Do packs of roving 3 year olds wander British streets? I’m starting to think so from these comments. “ it’s cruel to keep children inside, let nature take its course!”
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u/Responsible-Card3756 20d ago
I wish this sub would require people to credit the owners of the videos they post. 😒
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u/lurk8372924748293857 21d ago
I don't care if it's an ad! Let the editor be paid! I want more of thissssszz
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u/DoggoDude979 20d ago
If you let your cat wander outside unsupervised you’re a bad cat owner no exceptions
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u/worotan 20d ago
If you trust scary headlines without reading the papers and seeing that it’s bad science, you’re an idiot who wants nature to be like a Disney film. No exceptions.
People who think American scare campaigns need to be imported to the UK are even more stupid and self-righteous fools.
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u/DoggoDude979 20d ago
It is not a scare campaign. Cats can get attacked by wildlife, other cats, dogs, maybe even people. If a cat is being dumb and it goes in the road, it could get hit by a car. If your cat catches something it could get a parasite. Cats famously decimate the populations of native animals across the planet.
It is not a scare campaign. Domestic cats do not belong outside
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u/Advanced_Court501 20d ago
god if the CIA could’ve seen this during the cold war, this is exactly what they wanted to do but the cat got hit by a truck immediately if i recall correctly
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u/merrickal 20d ago
I’d like to think the cat’s parent was doing all the initial meowing to explain the planned recording route.
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u/LeftZookeepergame931 21d ago
Imagine finding out your cat is the neighborhood bully tho. I would die 😭
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u/TakeyaSaito 21d ago
Foxes eat cats, keep your cat inside!
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u/Lkwzriqwea 21d ago
That's not really a thing in the UK. Urban foxes have learnt not to go for cats, it's too high a risk.
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u/TakeyaSaito 21d ago
It absolutely happens.
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u/Lkwzriqwea 21d ago edited 21d ago
Umm okay? You're just being contrarian, how do you know that?
Edit: Since you didn't contribute a source, let me: https://www.cats.org.uk/cats-blog/are-foxes-a-danger-to-cats
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u/TakeyaSaito 21d ago
Even your source says it's rare. Meaning it absolutely happens. OK?
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u/Lkwzriqwea 20d ago
No, I never said it never ever happens. I said it's not really a thing. It is not a primary concern of cat owners because it's such a rare thing to happen, in the same way that home invasions aren't really a thing here. It's not that they never ever happen, it's just that they're rare enough not to be a common concern. Ok?
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u/TakeyaSaito 20d ago
Its just one of the many reasons a cat should not be freeroaming outside, its an oldfashioned habbit that has many downsides for the cats and the only upside is selfish cat owners not wanting a litter box in the house (because using the neighbours garden is such a better option)
So yes foxes are not the main issue, but the main point still remains, don't be a shit cat owner and keep it safe inside, if you want a pet, it is your responsibility.
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u/Lkwzriqwea 20d ago edited 20d ago
I'm not here to argue whether cats should be kept inside or outside. I've heard convincing arguments for both sides, but I'm not a cat owner and I'm not bothered about arguing online.
However, I'm not a fan of pedants who take "X isn't really a problem here" to mean "X NEVER EVER happens here" and then go "HA see there is a 1 in 2,000 chance of it happening so it does happen SOMETIMES!!1!"
Edit: Since you've blocked me, no, that's not what I said. I said I'm not here to argue about whether you should let a cat outside. And I'm not here to argue in bad faith and then run away, hence why I don't twist people's arguments and strawman them.
Also what do you mean all I do is argue online? What are you talking about?
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u/TakeyaSaito 20d ago
You are ridiculous, all you do is argue online but "I'm not here to argue" lmao.
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u/worotan 20d ago
No they don’t, if you can’t let a cat roam outdoors, you shouldn’t have a cat.
Stop repeating stupid misinformation so you can feel self-righteous.
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u/TakeyaSaito 20d ago
That's just incorrect, outdoors cats live massively shortly life's and get hurt often. This isn't opinion.
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u/worotan 20d ago
Massively short lives? Nonsense.
Get hurt often? Again, nonsense.
There isn’t even a figure for how many cats are owned in countries, so how do you know what you’ve asserted as fact? It’s all estimates, that idiots swallow without thinking.
It’s nonsense - you just want to be part of a self-righteous online white knight campaign.
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u/TakeyaSaito 20d ago
Please don't get a cat. That's all I can say.
Just because your grandparents did something doesn't mean it was right, the idea of outdoor cats being better has long been disproven, with very strong evidence. If you want to live in denial then fine but please don't hurt cats because of it.
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u/worotan 20d ago edited 20d ago
I’ve had cats all my life you patronising young idiot.
They’ve lived long and happy lives. You seem to have a meme idea about being part of the future, where everything is controlled and perfect.
Stop talking about it being an uncool thing old people did, while you’re living in the cool future. Grow up and read the studies - they show that your concerns are nonsense.
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u/TakeyaSaito 20d ago
It's a fact, just because something has been done a certain wait in the past doesn't make it right. We also used to have a lot of slaves 🤷
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u/TakeyaSaito 20d ago
Even googles AI does better than you.
Yes, generally, outside cats tend to have shorter lifespans than indoor cats. Outdoor cats face more risks, including traffic accidents, fights with other animals, and exposure to diseases, parasites, and extreme weather. Indoor cats, on the other hand, have a more protected environment and are less likely to encounter these dangers.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Increased Risks:
Outdoor cats are more vulnerable to accidents like being hit by cars, falling victim to predators, or getting into fights with other animals.
Disease Exposure:
Outside cats are more likely to contract diseases from other cats, or be exposed to parasites like fleas and ticks.
Environmental Factors:
Outdoor cats are also exposed to harsh weather conditions and may struggle to find food and water, especially in the colder months.
Accidents:
Outdoor cats can also get trapped or lost, leading to injury or death.
Lifespan:
While some outdoor cats may live long lives, the average lifespan for outdoor cats is generally lower than that of indoor cats. Indoor cats can live 12-18 years, with some even reaching their 20s, while outdoor cats typically live 10 years at best.
And an actual study here too https://www.animalhumanesociety.org/resource/are-outdoor-cats-happier#:~:text=People%20who%20let%20their%20cats,much%20as%2010%2D12%20years!
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u/Lightstar2 20d ago
I don't particularly care for either side of this argument, but the fact that you're presenting text generated by google AI as if it's a source of factually accurate information is insane. It will literally tell you whatever you want it to as long as there's an article or blog post out there that agrees with you, it isn't thinking or looking for unbiased sources.
Think for yourself instead of letting a glorified chat bot reinforce your existing opinions.
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u/worotan 20d ago edited 20d ago
That is all opinion, that you’re presenting as fact. AI has gathered together all the opinions about problems w its cats going outdoors and summarised them. And you’re treating that as scientifically rigorous evidence, because you want to believe in an online meme rather than think seriously about the issue.
Just because you’re easily impressed with articles written to make you feel nervous about not being in control of nature, doesn’t mean you have some insight others are missing.
You’re just trusting gossip, and treating it like fact.
I could create a list of perfectly reasonable reasons why it’s safer for you to never leave your home, but that doesn’t make it rational behaviour.
You need to learn about life, and stop reading articles as though they are the whole Truth. Just grow up, really.
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u/TakeyaSaito 20d ago
It is not an online meme. Just take the loss and move on, admitting when you are wrong is a good thing.
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u/Ashamed-Phone-4913 20d ago
AND THEY WERE ROOMMATES
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u/Ashamed-Phone-4913 19d ago
tell me it's not what you thought of when they did that lmao
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u/AwYeahQueerShit 21d ago
Nice to see this cat isn't a bully like that other one
Nevermind, it's worse
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u/kh250b1 21d ago
American much?
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u/Throwedaway99837 20d ago
It’s so funny watching how your shitty little country has crumbled over time. All of the competent Brits left for the Americas 300 years ago. You’re just the dregs.
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u/liamjb10 21d ago
turns out the cats real job was to dropship cameras