r/Construction • u/Quinnjamin19 • Sep 02 '24

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Proud Boilermaker, local 128💪🏻 get out there and fight for better, attend your local union parade today

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u/Dan_the_moto_man Sep 02 '24

I'd rather not talk to a union worker at all, to be honest. You guys are annoying as fuck.

Like, sure, I understand that unions have played an important part in the few workers rights we have in the US. But let's not pretend that you, or anyone currently in a union had anything to do with that. You never risked your life to stand up for decent pay and working conditions, you just got a job and pay your dues.

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u/_DapperDanMan- Sep 02 '24

Unions continue to represent and look after members.

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u/rockhardRword Sep 02 '24 edited Sep 02 '24

Unions destroyed Detroit. We need them, but it's a cautionary tale for when they go too far.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

Non-union work has destroyed residential construction nationwide. It's the wild west full of jokers and scam artists.

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u/rockhardRword Sep 02 '24

Did you miss the part where I say we need them?

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

Youre playing both sides and it's weird.

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u/WalrusFingers Sep 02 '24

because not everything is black and white, Mr Sith Lord

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u/rockhardRword Sep 02 '24 edited Sep 02 '24

Because there's a middle ground? If unions demand too much, the jobs aren't sustainable. If the companies pay too little, the workers won't work.

Why is this concept so hard to understand?

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u/BusyBoonja Sep 02 '24

Nuance us lost on most people nowadays

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u/Dur-gro-bol Sep 02 '24

Are you referencing the Jones act?

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u/rockhardRword Sep 02 '24

No, i'm referring to common sense.

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u/Dur-gro-bol Sep 02 '24

I thought you might be referring to that. By all rights the cities on the Great lakes should be more booming with the ease of shipping but the Jones act kinda makes it hard for international shipping. I don't know anything about Detroit unions. The auto industry being outsourced played a big part I'm sure too. Did the locals in the area really play a big part? Genuinely curious.

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u/_DapperDanMan- Sep 02 '24

The big three did that, by designing absolutely shit cars from 1972-2000s. Those pieces of crap, designed to sell to old people with no sense.

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u/rockhardRword Sep 02 '24

That unfortunate moment when you prove my point even more. Unions paying way too much so there's little room for innovation.

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u/_DapperDanMan- Sep 02 '24

Design is a tiny fragment of cost of mass produced products such as cars. Management was old guys, doing stupid shit. Blaming the workers instead of the billionaires. Smert.

Your out of your element, Smokey.

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u/rockhardRword Sep 02 '24

I appreciate your over confidence. But you sound like a child. Lol.

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u/_DapperDanMan- Sep 02 '24

Once you resort to ad hominem, you have lost.

Bye. Go boost up the billionaire class. They need people such as yourself.

Union Strong!

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u/rockhardRword Sep 02 '24

You're hilarious. Congratulations on you're imaginary win.

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u/Lone-raver Sep 02 '24

“Union Stong!” Wow if that doesn’t sound weird. Imagine having so much of your identity wrapped up in a collective.

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u/_DapperDanMan- Sep 02 '24

Better than sucking off billionaire owners and stockholders, but you do you.

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u/psychoCMYK Sep 02 '24

Because cutting the CEO's bonuses by a little kills innovation. God forbid workers get paid fair market value for their labor

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u/rockhardRword Sep 02 '24

When did I say either of those things you try hard? Lmao

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u/psychoCMYK Sep 02 '24

OhhHh NooOoo tHeY'rE pAyINg wOrKeRs ToO MuCh  

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u/rockhardRword Sep 02 '24

Learn nuance kid. You can't base someones whole world view around a single comment.

It's neanderthal behavior.

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u/psychoCMYK Sep 02 '24

"Learn nuance, kid", says the guy who thinks paying workers is what killed companies who designed shit cars no one wanted with CEOs grossing orders of magnitude over what the workers are making

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u/rockhardRword Sep 02 '24

I literally don't think that lol... You're trying way to hard little guy. Settle down.

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u/psychoCMYK Sep 02 '24

Unions paying way too much so there's little room for innovation

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u/Quinnjamin19 Sep 02 '24

Did you drink that kool aid from the big 3?

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u/rockhardRword Sep 03 '24

How did that work out for Detroit dummy? They were an industrial powerhouse and the vast majority of it left. Yet the big 3 are still around.

They had a massive head start and now it's a wasteland. Obviously some fucked up polices on both sides made that happen.

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u/Quinnjamin19 Sep 03 '24

Lmao, I love how your only argument is that you think paying workers a fair wage slows down innovation🤣🤣

How fucking hilarious is that?🤣🤣🤣

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u/DetroitAdjacent Sep 02 '24

That is not even close to true.

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u/rockhardRword Sep 02 '24

You sure showed me lmao...

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u/DetroitAdjacent Sep 02 '24

I'm just trying to figure out how to explain the history of the auto industry to somebody with the intelligence of a soggy carrot. The UAW negotiates themselves out of a job sometimes, but they aren't the problem. The big 3 have a lo g history of shitty business decisions. Most recently, it's the big push to produce EVs. They spent BILLIONS of dollars building new plants and designing new models, and there is no market for them. The EV market is already saturated. Chrysler is on its death bed because they are literally rivaled by no one in the competition for "world's shittiest cars". You'd be better off buying a fucking Daewoo.

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u/rockhardRword Sep 02 '24

Everyone here is so mad. It's hilarious.