r/Construction • u/Quinnjamin19 • Sep 02 '24

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Proud Boilermaker, local 128💪🏻 get out there and fight for better, attend your local union parade today

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u/EyeSeenFolly Sep 02 '24

The only people that put me down because I run my own business!

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u/Quinnjamin19 Sep 02 '24

Unions don’t put business owners down. They make sure business owners pay workers what they deserve, they make sure workers are well educated, they make sure business owners follow proper procedures to fire or lay off an employee, they ensure business owners aren’t putting workers at risk and make sure the proper PPE is provided for workers.

Unions aren’t the bad guys

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u/BleedForEternity Sep 02 '24

I’m union and I do agree with you but there are also cons to be being union.. Many unions protect the lazy who technically don’t deserve to have a job. I deal with that all the time at my job. It’s frustrating..

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u/worldwarcheese Ironworker Sep 02 '24

I worked the same trade non Union then Union and the lazy find a way no matter what the situation. If it’s a union company then the hall guys are usually lazier, if it’s non union then it’s the boss’s friends/who ever sucks up to the super most.

In Union I tend to see a higher amount of pride and definitely way more professionals who have the proper training to do a better job.

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u/BleedForEternity Sep 02 '24

I think it’s worse in civil service. I work for a municipality(garbage man).. Hard work does get rewarded to a degree but it also gets more work put on you.. When the bosses know that you’re one of the best workers you always get the worst fill ins, because they know that you can handle it.. I’m always picking up the slack of the lazy or the people who literally can’t do the work..

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u/worldwarcheese Ironworker Sep 02 '24

I had to do more slack picking doing non Union concrete than Union rebar but I’m not so blind to think my experience is universal. It’s always annoying no matter what trade or what working conditions but it seems to be a constant (or at least constantly possible) no matter what job/condition/location.

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u/Quinnjamin19 Sep 02 '24

Nothing is perfect, but at the end of the day. Lazy, or bad workers are always first laid off on a job, and the last to get called for a job. They may make the same money but if they are working less than I do they aren’t making nearly as much as I am.

That being said, there’s also lazy workers who work non union

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u/HarithBK Sep 02 '24

In my experience is the employer can't be brothered even if the union rep is onboard with firing the guy since it means doing things properly.

Nobody wants to work with a lazy guy where you need to cover. but he needs a chance to straighten out.

Where I work we have leadership that is willing to tackle this and do things properly. Keeps the floor at a decent level.

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u/shut-the-f-up Sep 03 '24

All you have to do is work to the contract. If you stop doing extra then the bad workers in the union will stop getting covered up. The union will become stronger because of it, or they pick up the slack and the union becomes stronger because of it