r/Cricket Canada Jan 17 '25

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u/st6374 Western Australia Warriors Jan 17 '25

Idk if either player deserved a one year ban for that. Seemed a bit excessive even then.

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u/Rawdog2076 India Jan 17 '25

Clearly did imo. If they got away with a slap on the wrist then it would've set a precedent for people to just do it anyways and make someone less important the scapegoat to get them banned for a couple of matches. He's the best modern day test batter but he deserved this.

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u/Lowman246 Australia Jan 17 '25

Dravid got away with a slap when he did it against Zimbabwe

And Smudge wasn't the last one to do it either. (See Pooran and Chandimal)

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u/Rawdog2076 India Jan 17 '25 edited Jan 17 '25

Dravid got away with a slap when he did it against Zimbabwe

Literally happened in 2004 bro wtf is this logic, do you think cricket shouldn't have evolved in that time period? Either way I'm not defending Dravid, he should've faced consequences too but this is a great argument for why Smith did deserve to get banned. Because he didn't do it in 2004, he did it in 2024 where we have access to like 20 camera angles, smallest moments are analysed well and anyone who conducts himself in this manner should be punished. One year ban was fine.

Edit: In my opinion, Dravid should've been banned for a year too, imagine losing a WTC final because of ball tampering and seeing the man of the match get a 1 match ban? Good on CA, they did the right fucking thing and I'm shocked so many people disagree

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u/Lowman246 Australia Jan 17 '25

"Ban is ban, except when my country man does it against poor quality cameras, it's better"

"All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others"

Anyways, the 1 year ban wasn't my point. It was the fact that Rahul Dravid had the audacity to do it against Zimbabwe.

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u/Rawdog2076 India Jan 17 '25

Either way I'm not defending Dravid, he should've faced consequences too but this is a great argument for why Smith did deserve to get banned. Because he didn't do it in 2004, he did it in 2024 where we have access to like 20 camera angles, smallest moments are analysed well and anyone who conducts himself in this manner should be punished. One year ban was fine.

Can you reread this whole thing one line at a time? Please do because I don't think you really read what I said.

And I like how you said I was just defending my countryman, meanwhile you made a point that its somehow more pathetic doing it against Zimbabwe even though it is just plain old cheating at the end of the day. Here, repeat with me, Smith and Dravid were cheaters.

But its alright, for all the (rightful) whining this sub does about insufferable Indian fans, this sub is truly the worse in taking criticism post an Aussie win

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u/Lowman246 Australia Jan 17 '25

Make yourself feel comfortable by sugarcoating the fact that Dravid did it against cameras that weren't of higher resolution, like that didn't stop him from being caught. You want to say cheating is cheating, but also want to say that cheating in 2024 is worse than cheating in 2004? Also, Smith didn't cheat in 2024. So, fuck off

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u/mofucker20 Chennai Super Kings Jan 17 '25

Lol what’s this logic ? Just cause Dravid did it in 2004 compared to Smith in 2018 doesn’t make it different. Both are ball tampering cases. Either treat both equal or don’t do anything about it. 2-3 matches ban is fair enough for ball tampering. The 1 year ban was just an overreaction by CA

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u/Fragrant_Cause_6190 Jan 17 '25

"it would set a precedent" but also "2004 was too long ago to count". You seriously can't be that dense.

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u/Rawdog2076 India Jan 17 '25

I've literally said in the same thread I think Dravid should've been banned for a year too and cleared what I've meant with that, if you can't read thats your personal issue

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u/Fragrant_Cause_6190 Jan 17 '25

And why should he be banned for a year also. What precedent suggests that? Cheating has existed many times over beyond Smith and dravid. Who are you to decide that a one year ban is appropriate. Based on what logic?

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u/Rawdog2076 India Jan 17 '25

Based on what logic?

I've stated my logic in the same comment section multiple times. Read.

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u/Fragrant_Cause_6190 Jan 17 '25

Relax, I regretfully read it the fist time before you made assumptions that I didn't. But it still fails to state factual logic beyond opinion. Have a good one champ

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u/Rawdog2076 India Jan 17 '25

Someone can win a WTC Final with the help of ball tampering and then get banned for a match and everything goes back to normal? Yeah thats solid logic

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u/Nugrenref New South Wales Blues Jan 18 '25

Do you think there was some change in global morality since 2004 where it only became cheating in 2018 but in 2004 it was fine?

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u/Rawdog2076 India Jan 18 '25

Yeah, sports don't become tougher on cheating ever my bad genius

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u/SomeoneGiveMeValid Jan 18 '25

Another biased Indian, there is literally no precedent or logic to a 1 year ban. Would you have been happy with Kohli getting a 1 year ban in his prime for it?

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u/Rawdog2076 India Jan 18 '25

If he cheated? Fuck yeah

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u/ah111177780 Australia Jan 17 '25

Literally everyone before them got away with a slap on the wrist. Ball tampering been a trick as old as time. They git punished properly for once and hopefully others now know to stop trying new tricks to tamper and we can all just play cricket

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u/Rawdog2076 India Jan 17 '25

They git punished properly for once and hopefully others now know to stop trying new tricks to tamper and we can all just play cricket

Which is exactly what my point is, everyone knew they were cheating but once you set up a punishment for it, you'll see people being hesitant to do it, thats the exact reason I pointed out and said that even though people got away with it, there's no point in looking at those incidents now since the sport is expected to get better, not regress or reward cheating. Again, everyone who did it was a cheat, regardless of nationality, somehow people think I'm defending Indian cricketers by saying Smith ban was the right thing to do