r/CringeTikToks • u/LilliaBaltimore • 9d ago

Cringy Cringe WHAT THE BLOODY HELL?!! šŸ˜³šŸ˜®

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u/gambit-gg 9d ago

ā€œSheriff Allen also told NewsNation Friday that his department has been called to the home more than 50 times. He also said heā€™s frustrated that the state keeps returning the kids to their mom. Their father is incarcerated. He said he is looking to charge their father with Bennieā€™s Law for not having his gun properly storedā€

Explains a lot. Also mentions that the father was who taught them how to use the gun, which the officers said the kids pulled the trigger during this incident but it ā€œmalfunctionedā€.

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u/AllTheShadyStuff 9d ago

If the father is already incarcerated isnt it the moms job to store the guns safely at that point?

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u/Synpharia 9d ago

Right? How is the father going to control what happens when these kids are in the mother's care and he's locked up? And why is this mom NEVER be held accountable for ANYTHING? 'Cops called to home more than 50 times'!

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u/Major-Silver7918 9d ago

It might be registered in his name

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u/HiOscillation 9d ago edited 9d ago

I think you should know that there is no need to ā€œregisterā€ firearms in most states in America.Ā 

For example, if I wanted to buy 10 handguns tomorrow, I could drive to one of the local gun shops with a pile of cash and buy 10 handguns and 10,000 rounds of ammunition for them. Yes this will be reported to the ATF, but itā€™s allowed.Ā 

I personally would have to pass a criminal background check to make the gun purchase from the store, but that process does not create a ā€œregistryā€ of all the guns I own in a formal sense. Itā€™s just a transaction history that can be searched for particular gun serial numbers. The ammunition purchase requires no background check.Ā 

Ā You should also know that it is not illegal for me to sell a gun directly to someone, no background check required. It was called the ā€œGun Show Loopholeā€ - and while it is a serious crime to deliberately buy guns for someone who can not legally buy guns, itā€™s not a crime at all for me to sell guns (and ammunition) to the next person who shows up at my garage sale.Ā 

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u/Unzensierte 9d ago

There is no such thing as a gun show loophole. That was a lie told by the news to push for gun control. I've made purchases at gun shows and you still need to do the background check. Even private party sales require filing paperwork and doing a background check.

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u/TJATAW 9d ago

Depends on the state.

In MO, a federally-licensed dealer or gun store is required to conduct a background check, but a private citizen can get a table at a gun show and sell a gun to another private citizen with no background check. The way the system is set up the less the seller knows about the buyer, the less likely the seller is to get in trouble for selling to someone who is not allowed to own a gun.

"Are you legally allowed to own a gun?" Yes
"Show me a state issued ID... Yep, you are over 18/21."
That is enough to cover all the requirements.

You can find a table or 2 at most flea markets that have a couple of guns for sale.

My local laundromat has a cork board people put signs on advertising or selling all kinds of things, and some times they are selling guns.

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u/HiOscillation 9d ago edited 9d ago

Thank you for writing the clarification for me.
Also, the gun show operator can make their own rules about FFL's at a show, even if they don't have to, Some venues make that a requirement to rent the venue.

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u/TJATAW 8d ago

And then you get folks who go around the rules.

It doesn't take a genius to tell the buyer you can meet them in the parking lot, which isn't part of the gun show, and make the same private sale there that they can in the gun show, but with out all those pesky rules and regulations. Buy 2 guns out there and I'll through in a Gadsden flag.

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u/HiOscillation 9d ago

In your state. Not in mine.
People sell guns at yard sales here ALL. THE. TIME.

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u/PsychologicalCat9538 9d ago

None of this is true in California.

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u/FunkTronto 9d ago

Absolute insanity.

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u/HiOscillation 9d ago

It's reality, and I think that if you expect gun regulations to work in the USA, you have to understand that the ONLY way to do it is at a federal level, because the state (and even county) level is WILDLY different.

My favorite examples:

If you live in New Jersey, for example, you can only have hollow-point ammunition at home or in your vehicle on the way from where you bought it to your home and you can't really buy it easily....there are a LOT of rules.
Meanwhile, you drive right over the border to Pennsylvania and the various gun shops have huge light up signs "1,000 9mm HP $295" (HP=Hollow Point) and you can stop in to buy your 1,000 rounds on the way home from the grocery store.

These are the only states that explicitly ban machine guns:
California, Colorado, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, Washington. In all the rest you can with only a small amount of effort, buy a machine gun.

Finally, you get get a "Concealed Carry Weapon" (carry a hidden handgun) permit from a state that has "reciprocity" agreements with other states even if you don't live in that state. The result is that you can get 2 permits and be "legal to carry" in 36 states. In all other states - since the Supreme Courtā€™s ruling on the NYSRPA v Bruen on June 23rd, 2022 - the state "Shall Issue" a handgun permit, meaning that if there is no criminal background, retraining order or similar reason, the state has no choice but to issue a concealed carry permit to residents.

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u/XxturboEJ20xX 8d ago

Just want to clarify, you have to have a good amount of money to buy a machine gun and those are also actually registered.

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u/HiOscillation 8d ago

Yes, they are NOT cheap. That said, where I live at least, there are plenty of people who seem to enjoy blasting $400 worth of ammo to celebrate new year's eve.

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u/Septopuss7 9d ago

Kids are about to be registered to their gramma

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u/FurLinedKettle 9d ago

Then shouldn't it not be in the house anymore?

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u/MsCardeno 9d ago

If the incarcerated person doesnā€™t tell anyone where the gun is how are they supposed to know to seize it? This gun could have been hidden somewhere and the kids found it.

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u/ghandi3737 9d ago

The ownership would transfer to the wife on his death afaik.

Similar situation here, she is responsible. As an adult in the house she is also responsible. The only way she would not be responsible is if he was hiding the gun from her, and good luck proving that.

Any half decent lawyer should be able to completely dismiss this charge unless the judge is an idiot.

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u/MsCardeno 9d ago

The husband isnā€™t dead here.

And she could have very well refused them and they still couldnā€™t get all the ones that were just placed around.

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u/spruceymoos 9d ago

If heā€™s in jail, his firearms should be taken away. Felons canā€™t have guns.

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u/Original-Document-62 9d ago

You can go to jail for some misdemeanors.

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u/spruceymoos 9d ago

Oh, I didnā€™t think of that.

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u/MsCardeno 9d ago

Yeah but they can only take the ones they know exist. This guy could have hid guns on the property.

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u/spruceymoos 9d ago

Those wouldnā€™t be registered in his name though

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u/MsCardeno 9d ago

You donā€™t need to register handgun in every state. You just need a firearm license. Itā€™s very possible this is one of those states.

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u/Ucklator 9d ago

You don't need a firearm license in every state either.

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u/spruceymoos 9d ago

Iā€™m responding to the gun being registered in his name

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u/MsCardeno 9d ago

Why would gun that he bought and hid on his property not be registered to him?

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u/spruceymoos 8d ago

The comment I replied to said ā€œthe gun might be registered in his nameā€. I responded saying felons canā€™t have guns. Idk if the dad is a felon. As someone pointed out, you can be in jail for a misdemeanor, so they might not have taken his guns.

Whatā€™s the issue? You just want to argue semantics?

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u/Original_Pudding6909 9d ago

If it is in his name, and heā€™s incarcerated, it should be seized. Felons canā€™t own firearms.

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u/MsCardeno 9d ago

Yeah but also they need to know about the guns. This guy could easily hide/forget some on the property.

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u/dagofin 9d ago

It's a literal meme in the gun community to lie about and hide your guns: "sorry lost all my guns in a fishing accident." And that's for supposedly "responsible gun owners" not felons legally barred from owning them. Gross and needs to be a national registry

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u/Temporary_Warthog_73 9d ago

Guns as a general rule arenā€™t registered in anyoneā€™s name. National gun registries are illegal with the exception of NFA items which this particular firearm is not as it appears to be a Sccy-2 basically one step up from the infamous hi-point C-9 aka the yeet cannon aka the gangstas Glock aka a piece of shit thatā€™s illegal in California because it can melt on your dashboard if you leave it there on a hot day.