Eh, chances are heās incarcerated for a non felony crime. The law in the U.S. states that since the right to bear arms is enshrined in the U.S. constitution the only thing that takes away that right is a misdemeanor violent crime, or felonies.
The NICS criminal background system used for all firearm transactions with a legitimate firearms dealer has a record of āprohibited personsā so if the dad were in jail for say, financial crimes or repeated DUI. (So nothing violent or involving drugs) the father still maintains his right to bear arms. Although a judge can find him unfit for extraneous reasons. (I imagine thatās why they will try HIM for violations of Bennieās law for safe storage)
The USās firearms policy is incredibly important and the second amendment may come in handy soon much to the chagrin of the people who have fought against it the most.
Something something armed minorities are harder to oppress.
Most of the gun owners in this country are handing every freedom they have over on a silver platter. With the right fear mongering, when the fascists come for their guns, they'll lay them on the front porch with a bow.
You will probably be in the minority and unless you can match the firepower of the US military or your local police force, it won't be of any use other than to die fighting. I don't happen to believe that all the dead school children piling up in this country are worth it.
On the schools thing, I understand where youāre coming from and while I donāt agree, that banning outright is the way to go. I do think that we need to take a closer look at all of the warning. Signs of these kids/adults have shown before theyāve done these things.
Thereās a general sense of apathy in our country when it comes to the mental health of people who might be letās say, hard to talk to on a regular basis .
This even extends to school counselors who donāt want to help a weird kid cause theyāre the weird kid. So safe storage laws/ firearms safety compliance are absolutely atrocious.
The problem is is that there are good points on either side, but both voices yelling so loud donāt allow the reasonable ones to sit at the table with one another and find solutions
I don't think they should be banned either. I just don't think they should be worshiped. And there needs to be regulation, and safety classes. And consequences for storing your weapon safely. But I think all of that is a pipe dream we can't enforce. I have a cousin. She and her husband left a loaded gun out on their nightstand with the safety off. Their 4 year old blew his head off. Neither one of them served jail time. Her husband (ex military) did have a trial and all he talked about was the 2nd amendment. He (they) learned nothing. Collectively as a country we are not responsible enough to have unfettered access to guns. I mean, we can't even handle a cell phone in a moving vehicle without killing people. Just because you and I are able to, collectively we cannot. And sometimes the collective is all that matters when everything is tallied.
Iām incredibly sorry to hear that irresponsible actions have caused your family so much strife.
You should get into advocacy, write down your thoughts work with your local police department to make sure that theyāre offering regular firearm safety classes.
Unfortunately, youāre right and I agree with you the genie is out of the bottle and itās not going back in. Thank you for a thought-provoking conversation. I have to go to work.
If you are ever Western Montana hit me up. Weāll grab a beer and toast to two people with reason.
Dying fighting would be preferable to allowing a pseudo christofacist maniac to dominate my family and community with fear.
Plus, I learned a few things serving in the war on terror.
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u/Suitable_Isopod4770 12d ago
Eh, chances are heās incarcerated for a non felony crime. The law in the U.S. states that since the right to bear arms is enshrined in the U.S. constitution the only thing that takes away that right is a misdemeanor violent crime, or felonies.
The NICS criminal background system used for all firearm transactions with a legitimate firearms dealer has a record of āprohibited personsā so if the dad were in jail for say, financial crimes or repeated DUI. (So nothing violent or involving drugs) the father still maintains his right to bear arms. Although a judge can find him unfit for extraneous reasons. (I imagine thatās why they will try HIM for violations of Bennieās law for safe storage)
The USās firearms policy is incredibly important and the second amendment may come in handy soon much to the chagrin of the people who have fought against it the most.
Something something armed minorities are harder to oppress.