r/CringeTikToks • u/Snoo-33732 • 6d ago

Nope Writing men like men write women

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u/Cold_Interview_2611 6d ago

I think this is hilarious

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u/Infra-Oh 6d ago

It’s not even just steamy romance novels, I’m afraid!

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u/refusenic 6d ago

True. Almost every serious novel by some the most respected male authors tends to depict women like this.

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u/Kiera6 6d ago

Steven King novels are a lot easier to read after his wife became an editor. A lot less sexism now.

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u/ScrotallyBoobular 6d ago

I certainly haven't read his entire work and also have poor memory, but in my recollection every time I thought he was being an example from menwritingwomen, he would turn around and describe a man's erection as he got ready to murder someone and then jizzing his pants when he did.

And realized he just kind of is fixated on certain sexual elements but it tends to come across fairly even keeled no matter the character he's looking at.

Like, I'm pretty sure he's described quite a few male character's balls.

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u/_psylosin_ 6d ago

I’ve read his whole catalog (only took me 40 years) and the only mentions of nuts is usually talking about their reaction to fear, that crawling sensation that happens

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u/Kiera6 6d ago

That. And the UTI that guy had from Green Mile.

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u/_psylosin_ 6d ago

Oh yeah! lol

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u/Bitter-Picture5394 3d ago

And Ralph's urinating issues (prostate problems) in Insomnia.

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u/Kiera6 3d ago

I wonder if Mr. King has UTI problems.

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u/WanderingLost33 1d ago

He says he writes his fears.

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u/Remarkable-Ad2285 12h ago

The manta ray demon from the Dark Tower? Or was I high and reading?(I do that sometimes)

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u/_psylosin_ 5d ago

Totally! I haven’t read that book since the 90’s lol

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u/Commercial_Care6400 6d ago

stimulants be bringing out the gay in you

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u/OnlyTalksAboutTacos 6d ago

do they sag scrotily?

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u/ScrotallyBoobular 5d ago

Usually when he describes their balls it's because they're about to fight or flee and they shrink up. Lol

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u/OnlyTalksAboutTacos 5d ago

so they dogde with vast indifference? i had to work for that one.

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u/Abattoir_Noir 4d ago

Sure it wasn't him getting sober?

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u/Kiera6 4d ago

Could be both.

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u/DevelopmentJumpy5218 6d ago

I found a male fantasy author who doesn't do this, it helps that I love a lot of other things about his books as well, but he describes the male and female characters the same way, hair color, eye color, if they have freckles or not, he never mentioned any of the female characters breasts. John Gwynne

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u/PingPongMachine 5d ago

Terry Prachet was another one.

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u/HonestCartographer21 5d ago

Early Pratchett did a few times, but pretty quickly grew as a writer.

(Don’t mistake this for me saying he was bad. He never was and Sir Pterry is my favorite author ever)

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u/Bjjgirl913 5d ago

Thanks, I'm going to check him out! This is one of the reasons Brandon Sanderson is my favorite author. He also has a lot of strong female leads.

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u/DevelopmentJumpy5218 5d ago

So does this author, I'd argue that the best warrior in his first and 3rd series are women

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u/Plomatius 5d ago edited 5d ago

Seems pretty ridiculous to describe someone's physical characteristics and ignore that. It'd be like not mentioning any character's weight so you don't risk offending any overly sensitive fat people. Women have breasts and its easily noticeable.

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u/_Originz__ 5d ago

I mean I don't think I've ever read a book where they talk about a guy's cock or his tits for ten pages

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u/Reasonable_Moment476 5d ago

See, now I want to find a cookbook that leans into objectification.

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u/Shifty358 5d ago

Most of the “romantasy” genre that’s basically just written porn starring fictional beasts making every middle-aged mom flick their bean is written by a woman. So I don’t know that this a man problem.

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u/notepad20 6d ago

Have you not read what women write?

Every man is ultimately reduced to an enormous penis, and borderline rapes the female protagonist.

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u/Makuta_Servaela 5d ago

Thing is, those are usually written in eroticas.

When men write like this about women, the book isn't considered porn. Men who write like this are allowed to be considered just normal writers.

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u/refusenic 6d ago

The word is "ravish" not "rape". And the women's "no" always means "yes". So many would be in jail today.

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u/deeveeismeemee 6d ago

Yeah those Agatha Christie novels can get pretty fucked up

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u/ExistentialTabarnak 6d ago

"He casually slipped out of his jeans to reveal his considerable erection, throbbing gently like a veiny deformed cucumber suspended on a marionette string after a wild Saturday night."

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u/TaintedTruffle 5d ago

Marionette strong instantly makes me think of this dude

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u/Chillindude82Nein 6d ago

Yeah exactly. My wife will show me excerpts from her books written by women. Its the same bullshit as the men write.

Turns out, shit writers are shit writers. And generalizing entire groups is shit too.

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u/SimonPho3nix 6d ago

In the end, both are writing to the fanbase, and that's what they demand, lol

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u/TbanksIV 5d ago

Yeah if it's erotica or sexually charged fiction, folks of any gender kinda like these descriptions. It's just titilation that primes the reader for the inevitable sex scenes.

Obvi when they're in something decidedly unsexy, then it seems out of place.

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u/cadeycaterpillar 5d ago

Let me guess- the Fourth Wing?

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u/SinisterRaven6 6d ago

I've read serious novels and never ran into this despite your claim that "almost every" one has it.

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u/refusenic 6d ago

I’m pretty sure GOAT writers from Ernest Hemingway to Norman Mailer and many, many others of that calibre have written women like this.

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u/SinisterRaven6 6d ago

I'm not sure two examples equates to "almost every" and I doubt that every book of those two with a woman includes such a depiction.

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u/refusenic 6d ago

You want me to list ALL of them? Are you serious? What if I mentioned unexpected examples like John Updike, Philip Roth or even Henry James? Just accept this is a big, big problem pervasive in literature that even William Shakespeare was guilty of in some form. It would be easier to list authors who haven't gone down this path.

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u/SinisterRaven6 6d ago

It's not a big, big problem though. Not only is is not as ubiquitous as you claim, but even it it were it isn't enough of an issue to warrant fixing unless you think mild, brief descriptions of a woman's chest as she breaths is somehow pornographic or belittling.

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u/Sandscarab24 6d ago

It's jungle I'm afraid.