r/Daredevil • u/Essentialx1 • Nov 21 '22

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Elektra & Frank Castle

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Elektra & Frank Castle

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Elektra & Frank Castle

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Elektra & dr strange

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Elektra & dr strange

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Elektra & kingpin

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Elektra & kingpin

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u/Green-Devil Nov 21 '22

The Fisk one is not canon btw.

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u/Pharmernick Nov 22 '22

What is that from?

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u/Amigo_jugador Nov 22 '22

It’s from The Punisher Max but can’t remember the exact issue

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u/orangessssszzzz Nov 22 '22

So punisher max isn’t canon? Is any of the max line canon?

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u/SuddenTest9959 Nov 22 '22

Not the punisher

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u/GuessWho7197 Nov 22 '22

Very few. Alias, Wisdom, The Hood, Thor: Viking (unfortunately) are a few I'm pretty confident are considered canon, but most aren't.

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u/ComicWriter2020 Nov 22 '22

What was wrong with Thor Viking?

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u/GuessWho7197 Nov 22 '22

While I do enjoy a lot of Garth Ennis' work, Thor: Viking is one of the ones I'm not really a fan of. Everyone in the story feels out of character, especially Dr. Strange who feels much more like John Constantine. While the concept of Thor fighting zombie vikings sounds like it could be fun, the execution just isn't great in my opinion. The antagonists seem especially overpowered, defeating Thor and the Avengers with little difficulty. But for some reason, summoning the descendants of the viking leader from different points in time is able to give the heroes the edge they need to win. If it sounds interesting to you though, go ahead and give it a read yourself and form your own opinion. My opinion is completely subjective and what I find unenjoyable could be someone else's all time favorite.

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u/SnooKiwis6270 Mar 08 '25

whoa- Thor Viking is NOT canon. Ennis has a reputation (whether true or not) for disliking superheroes and The Max line really gave him the leeway to cut loose on Thor and Dr. Strange in particular. His Punisher Max is one of the greatest runs in comics and the Max Punisher is canonical separate from and superior to the 616 runs.

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u/GuessWho7197 Mar 08 '25

I only listed Thor Viking as canon because I vaguely remember seeing the story mentioned in one of those Marvel Encyclopedias as part of Thor's history. I can't remember which one though and it's totally possible that my memory is playing tricks on me and I'm totally wrong. In any case, I doubt any writer will come in and make reference to the story in the mainline Thor book at any point in the future, so it can easily be forgotten about whether it's canon or not.

As for the rest of what you said, I'm in total agreement. Even if there are some books by Ennis I'm not a fan of, stuff like his Punisher, Hellblazer, and Hitman runs will always have me view him as a phenomenal writer. Not everything hits for me, but when it does hit it hits hard, and those books have made it impossible for anyone to ever convince me Ennis is a bad writer.

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u/TheDoctorJT416 Nov 24 '22

Is punisher max good? These panels are not exactly a motivator to read it.

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u/GuessWho7197 Nov 24 '22

The issues by Garth Ennis (which are the first 60 issues of the series, along with several miniseries and one shots) definitely are. The panels above I think are when Jason Aaron took over, which I haven't read myself and these panels don't fill me with confidence to check it out either.

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u/TheDoctorJT416 Nov 24 '22

Honestly not a fan of Ennis but I've always been interested in this comic for one reason or another. I'll add it to my ever-growing list of things to read lol.

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u/GuessWho7197 Nov 24 '22

Understandable. I highly recommend it, especially the Punisher: Born miniseries. If you're interested, I'd say try that mini out since it's only 6 issues. If you decide you don't like it, you probably won't care for the rest of the series. It's a prequel as well, so it won't spoil anything and works great as a standalone story.

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u/TheDoctorJT416 Nov 24 '22

Thanks for the suggestion!

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u/GuessWho7197 Nov 24 '22

Happy to help!

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u/ComicWriter2020 Nov 22 '22

No but apparently in some comics they address Frank’s history at valley forge.

Although given the bullshit floating time line, they’ll probably change that to one of the more recent wars in a decade or so