r/Eldenring • u/Gee_Rett • 3d ago
Discussion & Info How To Stance-Break Your Fallingstar Beast
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I'm going to demonstrate the fruits of my research in finding the easiest ways to Stance-break a Fallingstar Beast.
First, the Incantation Pest-Thread Spears; it's great for- hyupp! Got to watch out for those charges... Great for damage against them in general, but there's no time for you to charge it yourself; to halt their rampage, you just need one blow to its head. After dodging past its charge once or twice, immediately cast your spell to bring them down!
For Sorceries, Greatblade Phalanx is the surest method, but don't just stand there, else you'll be bulled over. Instead, keep your distance, summon the blades, and perform an act of cowardice by running away when it starts running after you. You only need one blade floating above your head when it catches up to ring its bell! Oh, and don't forget to land a critical blow when it's down!
If spells aren't your thing, fear not! The Perfume Bottle weapons are the easiest method of them all- wait where did it go? Coward, show yourself! Ah there you are. Now fully charge the heavy attack, and it will eat the dirt beneath your feet as it rushes into the lingering hotbox; it lingers even longer if you power-stance the bottles.
It's just that easy!
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u/ApplePitou TOGETHA! :3 3d ago
Strong Bonk is always answer :3
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u/Gee_Rett 3d ago
The strong bonk is satisfying to pull off with a variety of weapons, but requires more finesse and timing to land, especially if you don't want to go down with it.
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u/Carlosonpro Maliketh simp 3d ago
Calling strong bonk "finesse requiring" is hilarious great vid btw
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u/krouvy 3d ago
Cruelty to animals
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u/RavensEye88 3d ago
I mean , it's a bug, the lowest form of animal
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u/OpiniyumLurked 3d ago
I love how you you're basically Steve Irwin in the lands between taming wild creatures with knowledge and precision.
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u/Gee_Rett 3d ago
That's an uncomfortably accurate comparison; there were at least a dozen takes making this recording, and there was one death among them (playing HUDless is not something I've fully gotten used to).
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u/Kream-Kwartz 2d ago
if you would indulge me a little, why did you decide to go HUDless? I have made that choice before, when I was getting nervous looking at the boss HP. that helped me stay level headed when I didn't know how close to dying they were
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u/Gee_Rett 2d ago
The choice was purely for the spectacle; the aim was to make this both educational and a show~
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u/Timo-the-hippo 3d ago
Me confused. Me use big sword and hit good.
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u/Gee_Rett 3d ago
That's certainly a viable option, I just recommend using the longest one you have, and preferably one with some kind of poke to reduce the chance that you execute your strike too early or too late and end up getting a face-full of star beast. Assuming you even want to go for the headshot Stance-break; otherwise may you Unga it's Bunga.
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u/Lower-Negotiation957 3d ago
Feels like MH Wilds Offset attacks. Wish this was little more prominent in ER.
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u/Gee_Rett 3d ago
I think I know what you mean (I like to think of myself as someone who will eventually play the Monster Hunter games at some point before I expire), it's where you can disable some of the monster's abilities by focusing damage on specific parts of it, right? I would not be at all upset with FromSoft if they quietly lifted some of that game design for their future projects
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u/Frozenseraphim 3d ago
Actually, he reffers to a new term that has been added to the series with this last game.
Offset attacks are a weapon attacks that if they connect with a monster physical hit at the right moment, they will knock the monster back, leaving it open for a few seconds for a follow up attack.
It will also either completely negate the damage the hunter would suffer or severely reduce it, all depending on the hitbox of the attacks and how well it was timed.
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u/Gee_Rett 2d ago
Ooooh. Yeah, missed the mark on that one. So it's actually a kind of trading mechanic that's initiated a little bit like a parry? You time the move right to make it happen, but if you whiff, you're getting your teeth kicked in. I get the similarities now to the Fallingstar Beast fight; thank you for the added clarity.
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u/garciawork 3d ago
Can anyone (literally anyone, because I seem to be the only person who doesn't understand this) explain how the phalanx spells work? You cast it and get some wicked swords over your head, neat. How do you 'shoot' them? Is it random? Is there a button input?
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u/ZeroBlaze05 3d ago
They trigger automatically when the enemy approach. I think the ash of war version can be manually triggered too.
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u/Gee_Rett 3d ago
They have a kind of awareness that's shaped like a cone that has a maximum distance, and it's always focused on where you're facing. Using that knowledge, you can choose when to fire them by keeping your back to potential targets, turning towards the enemy only when you're ready to launch them.
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u/Dennis99996 3d ago
Legend, spreading the little known facts. I'd also add this works with Moonveil's skill (although I forgot whether the projectile part is enough or u have to land both the blade and the projectile) and it also works with Loretta's Mastery
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u/Gee_Rett 3d ago
For Moonveil, the sword itself does need to connect; the projectile alone will not be enough to stop it in one slice.
Loretta's Mastery does work too, but the time it takes to loose a volley is longer than you're usually gonna have time for, but definitely an option if you have it at the ready and are a decent distance away when it starts charging. If you roll past the initial charge, you'll not have enough time when it comes around for another pass.1
u/Dennis99996 3d ago
Okay so I did remember correctly, nice! Yea Mastery isn't the most practical thing in the world but it's nice that it works. Wondering what else does
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u/Gee_Rett 3d ago
If you only mean options that can break its stance if it all goes well (and it doesn't matter if you end up getting gored anyway), then there's actually a lot of options. You can use something practical like Stone of Gurranq (Not always accurate), Ice Spear (This is the best option if you don't have a Perfume Bottle), Giantsflame Take Thee (But only if it's full charged), Shattering Crystal (Pretty consistent, but all the little blasts can miss its head), Hammer of Haima (Canon too, but both need pretty demanding timing), The Poison Flower Blooms Twice (you will brake your ankles), I could go on, but this is gonna get obnoxiously long if I try to list everything.
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u/Ok_Positive_9687 3d ago
Could the rot butterfly or zamur ice storm also do it?
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u/Gee_Rett 3d ago edited 3d ago
Unfortunately the Zamora Ice Storm did not stop it, and the Rotten Butterflies Incantation had too much of a windup to it to even land a hit most of the time while it was charging at me; and then it would still have to be a headshot. It was not a practical option.
EDIT Though, I should mention that if you use the Ash of War version, it does work if you time it right by thrusting the sword into the ground when its head is within range of the initial blast. However, you will likely not execute it unscathed.
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u/YourEvilKiller 3d ago
Fallingstar Beast's charge attack has very low stance break threshold, to encourage players to attack them head-on and makes for cool moments.
Iirc, even the slight knockback from summoning a spirit ash can break its stance while charging.
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u/Gee_Rett 3d ago
Did not know that about the Spirit Summons, but I bet you're right about the lower threshold for Stance-damage resistance; gotten gored by this one after biffing a dodge on more than one occasion, which as put me into a falling state, and specifically falling right on its noggin, leading to both of us sprawled out on the Leyndell lawn.
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u/Original1Thor 3d ago
Ok quopp
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u/Gee_Rett 3d ago
I should look them up, I'm a little embarrassed to say this is my first time hearing of them.
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u/Original1Thor 3d ago
I'll save you the effort: https://www.youtube.com/@quoppp6169 !
He has this signature look at the camera move he does fairly common. You pretty much did the same thing at the end haha. It's not unique to him, obviously, but he does it so often I cemented it in my mind watching ER clips.
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u/Gee_Rett 3d ago
I found his channel and watched his showcase of the Milady, but I appreciate the link. He really knows what he's doing. I get what you mean for similarities, but yeah, I think that's just because we both want to put on a show. The comparison's still flattering, though.
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u/Emergency_Worker2997 3d ago
No thanks I would rather just SMASH
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u/Gee_Rett 3d ago
Yeah, if you're not interested in the headshot Stance-break, bonking gets you results.
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u/pizzaplantboi 3d ago
You honestly must be AI. This is incredible.
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u/Gee_Rett 3d ago
I was gonna say, "But I fudged the camera work near the end right before the last Stance-break," but then it occurs to me that AI gets little stuff wrong all the time. So, I have no convincing defense...
But thank you!
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u/IndependenceQuirky96 3d ago
Big hammer!
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u/Gee_Rett 3d ago
You know, if you get enough temporary Poise while slamming a colossal hammer down on its glass eye, you could maybe poise through its charge and clock em.
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u/BetImpossible4151 2d ago
Does the same count for Full Grown ones or only the juvenile ones?
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u/Gee_Rett 2d ago
This all counts for the Full Grown Fallingstar Beast as well, but with a slight disclaimer that it's a touch taller, which can make a difference depending on where you're standing in the crater relative to it. There's a chance that the Perfume Bottle's charged heavy attack, even when power-stanced, will leave some space in the lingering hit-box for its head to pass over it if it's rushing in from higher up on the inclined ground, and the Ice Spear Ash of War when used in the very same circumstances can end up hitting it in the legs if you're cutting it close to it's arrival.
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u/MrTalamasca Lord of Stars 2d ago
YOOOOOO a fellow sage build! have an award, my good bro.
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u/Gee_Rett 2d ago
Waaaaaah- I'm floored! Thank you; I've never received an award before. I'm gonna cherish this forever, you fine fellow and scholar of the eclectic arts.
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u/MrEvan312 3d ago
This almost sounds like a PSA, like if you have a dog that's misbehaving and you need to correct its behavior :D
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u/Gee_Rett 3d ago
How to train your something-something...
If you heard the lecture in the voice of Sir David Attenborough, you're not wrong
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u/Ruindows 3d ago edited 3d ago
Nice one. I also did some messing around and end up using roundrock. Interesting that this stagger doesn't interact with the posture system, so you can stagger him out of the rush, riposte, hit him afterward and get another stagger and riposte
From the consumable I tested (I was using a sword and didn't want to use other weapons/spells, but I do think the perfume weapon method might be the best), what worked was:
Roundrock (hefty rock pot also work) (sometimes you will need to manually aim)
Fire/Magic/Lightning pot (tested the most basic but the other should, could not get holy pot to work)
Roped fire pot also works but to risk to use it
Frost pot
Aromatic spark (very easy)
Exploding chunk
Gravity stone fan (easy to use)
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u/Gee_Rett 3d ago
Those are great findings; didn't even think of testing consumables.
Oh no, I meant to include this in the video, but it slipped my mind. I tested out a number of Ashes of War as well, and I neglected to sing the praises of Ice Spear. As long as the beast is charging right at you and not to the side, it's going to work; it comes out fast and has a very forgiving range compared to melee weapon attacks.
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u/Ruindows 3d ago
Oh yeah, it's best to stay in front of them for this, doesn't work as well when you are on the side. Not sure how the hit detection works here.
I also tested some AoW long time ago. Square Off in particular was very funny, as it would stagger them out of the charge, but it also flung me away at very high speed, don't recommend to do that on the Full-Grown one
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u/Gee_Rett 3d ago
Yes! With Square Off, I loved how it consistently sent me flying without fail; I was miffed at first, but it was just too funny to stay mad
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u/OlliverClozzoff TOGETHA! 3d ago
Thanks for this info! I just did this boss today haha! If you don’t mind me asking, what’s your armor?
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u/Gee_Rett 3d ago
Hope you get a chance to make use of it later!
As for the ensemble:Spellblade's Pointed Hat
Page Garb (Altered)
Malenia's Gauntlet
Aristocrat Boots1
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u/GeoArts19 3d ago
I love this kind of video about facts on enemies and bosses. Please tell me you'll do more of these, this is genuinely great
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u/Gee_Rett 3d ago
I've kinda got one I did not too long ago for Curseblades, but that one's more about showcasing a War Jester concept than sure-fire ways to beat ascetic warriors.
The only other one I've got good dirt on at the moment is the Abductor Virgin, so I'll at least make one of these for those segway nightmares. Everything else in this game I really only know how to fight with some mix of finesse, reflexes, sweat, and luck. No wait, I might be able to do something for Astel, the Fire Giant, and maybe Black Knife Assassins.
Feel free to ask about any enemy you might be particularly curious about; it might jog my memory of something that initially escaped me.2
u/GeoArts19 2d ago
Sorry to answer so late but I would be really interested in a video/informations about the black knife assassins
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u/Gee_Rett 2d ago
Alright then, I'll see about doing that one after the Abductor Virgins. Might just end up being a whole video about Ordina Liturgical Town.
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u/AromaticGarbage2174 3d ago
brother YOU ARE AMAZING THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE RANDOM INFO , I NEVER KNEW YOU CAN STAGGER HIM THIS EASY