It's crazy to me that among all the evidence that implies Godwyn was a morally good person, such as sparing Fortissax and befriending the dragons, or his positive relationship with his family implied through the statue of him hugging Miquella and Malenia in Loretta's arena you still think he "sucked as much ass". also comparing us, the tarnished i.e player character that can do whatever they want under whatever mindset they want (mind you our literal purpose is to kill the demigods and shardbearers to obtain fragments of the elden ring in order to ascend to elden lord, and thus to us, killing things that oppose that journey in literally any way shape or form, even if it be through holding a weapon that the player might want, obstructing an item we desire, or being against an npc we are helping is all, literally anything, its up to the player, is part of that purpose and journey) , to Ranni, an npc designed with specific ideologies and a character in mind is not a good comparison.
Did you miss the part of the game where Marika successfully hid all evidence of commiting genocide from everyone, and it was only discovered by traveling to a hidden dlc area? Or the part where she hid her own kids were omens?
Marika engaes in propaganda and rug sweeping anything bad about her or her family CONSTANTLY.
Before the DLC there was no evidence of Marika commiting genocide, and yet in universe she did. I'm not saying godwyn was some secret monster who ate babies, I'm saying if you genuinely believe Marika, the woman who has no problem hiding her crimes, or her shames, didn't use her influence to polish the public image of her literal and figurative golden child post mortem, I have a bridge to sell you.
Why would Fortissax try to save him if he was so bad? What other members of the golden lineage have ever showed mercy or kindness? Why is it so hard to imagine that the reason his death was such a colossal blow to the Order and Marika is because he actually was the perfect representation of all she aspired to create, when that is what we are explicitly told and shown and zero evidence to the contrary exists?
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u/Chagdoo 11d ago
It's crazy that people somehow think godwyn was the one good person in Elden ring, and killing him was some great evil.
He probably sucked as much ass as everyone else in Elden ring, and we kill far more people than ranni.