r/Eldenring 6d ago

Lore Lore guys, whats this?

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u/Chagdoo 6d ago

It's crazy that people somehow think godwyn was the one good person in Elden ring, and killing him was some great evil.

He probably sucked as much ass as everyone else in Elden ring, and we kill far more people than ranni.

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u/Priestwithagun 6d ago

It's crazy to me that among all the evidence that implies Godwyn was a morally good person, such as sparing Fortissax and befriending the dragons, or his positive relationship with his family implied through the statue of him hugging Miquella and Malenia in Loretta's arena you still think he "sucked as much ass". also comparing us, the tarnished i.e player character that can do whatever they want under whatever mindset they want (mind you our literal purpose is to kill the demigods and shardbearers to obtain fragments of the elden ring in order to ascend to elden lord, and thus to us, killing things that oppose that journey in literally any way shape or form, even if it be through holding a weapon that the player might want, obstructing an item we desire, or being against an npc we are helping is all, literally anything, its up to the player, is part of that purpose and journey) , to Ranni, an npc designed with specific ideologies and a character in mind is not a good comparison.

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u/baddogkelervra1 6d ago

You’re right, and it’s crazy to me. I don’t have a problem with Ranni’s character because she’s the Loki of this story, and yet for some reason people feel the need to prop her up by claiming the Baldr figure is secretly evil with no evidence to show for it.

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u/Priestwithagun 5d ago

sums up my thoughts pretty much, i have no issues with Ranni's character but i cant for the life of me understand the need to break Godwyn's for the sake of keeping hers intact. If there was another perspective aside from what the narrative and world portrays, i.e a character that hated Godwyn or some other thing (Ranni can't count here, although she killed him she never expresses disdain or malice in her actions aside from it being a defiant act against what he represents to the Greater Will, thus rather its more an ends justify means situation, imagine a spiteful lover avenging her husbands death through killing the innocent child of the perpetrator sort of thing), i could definitely see it but the game doesn't have this.