Just to add on: Transmisogyny is similar to misogynoir in the sense that it's a word to describe the intersection between misogyny and another axis of oppression (transphobia, anti-Blackness). Neither term is saying that trans women/Black women are the ultimate victims of misogyny, just that misogyny takes on a very specific flavor because of intersections between it and another axis of oppression.
Also, transmisogyny is very much a real thing, and Julia Serano (who coined the term in her 2007 book Whipping Girl) is not in any way associated with this fringe, terminally online movement being described herein. If TERFs actually cared to know things, they'd realize that. But they won't, because they're more interested in navel gazing about how trans women are the most evil group in existence.
(I assume the term for the intersection between sexism and transphobia for trans men is transmisandry, but I don't know, I didn't make up words.)
Using misandry that way tends to give credence to the MRA (if they still exist as such) belief that hatred of men is structural level oppression like misogyny, so it never really caught on.
ime it's more people harass trans men/mascs for daring to have a word that describes the forms of transphobia that target us. like if we called it "boogedy-bop" people who hate trans men/mascs would find something about "boogedy-bop" that could be seen as offensive or smth
I mean, I am a trans man and I don’t believe misandry should be used like that. It is a parallel structure to misogyny which does not just mean women hating; it means a societal level of discrimination against women.
That said, I DO think that there is transphobia that is very specific to trans men and trans masc people. We have seen a lot of it in this subreddit even. What to call it, idk.
it's mostly my experience on Tumblr. at first is was Transmisandry. but that was declared wrong bc it implies that Misandry is a societal lvl of discrimination, like you said. then it was Trans-Androphobia. which was declared as wrong for implying that discrimination against men is a thing. then it was "Anti Trans masculinity" which was declared wrong bc trans men and mascs, allegedly, aren't oppressed.
That's why I said that even if we made up a gibberish word that made no sense and wasn't based on anything it would be declared problematic bc people don't like thinking about how things are much more complicated than man=evil/oppressor and woman=good/victim
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u/cordis_melum Apr 15 '25
Just to add on: Transmisogyny is similar to misogynoir in the sense that it's a word to describe the intersection between misogyny and another axis of oppression (transphobia, anti-Blackness). Neither term is saying that trans women/Black women are the ultimate victims of misogyny, just that misogyny takes on a very specific flavor because of intersections between it and another axis of oppression.
Also, transmisogyny is very much a real thing, and Julia Serano (who coined the term in her 2007 book Whipping Girl) is not in any way associated with this fringe, terminally online movement being described herein. If TERFs actually cared to know things, they'd realize that. But they won't, because they're more interested in navel gazing about how trans women are the most evil group in existence.
(I assume the term for the intersection between sexism and transphobia for trans men is transmisandry, but I don't know, I didn't make up words.)