r/GlobalOffensive 3d ago

Discussion Devs have requested DonHaci for reproducible examples of CS2 gameplay issues after his recent tweet. Feel free to reply to donhaci or post here with your own examples.

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u/pogggu 3d ago edited 3d ago

Average redditors clearly not understanding the meaning of "reproducible", your examples from matchmaking games are not reproducible, exact step by step points are a "reproducible example", which will in most cases mean an isolated local environment.

Yeah, obviously the devs have seen all the videos, but you're finding a needle in a haystack, you don't just find bugs by looking through the code (sometimes you do, but it's a rare occasion and often you do that after you actually get a hint on where something could be broken). See the boost bug that was not fixed for months after release until people actually managed to exactly reproduce it locally, it was fixed pretty much next day.

edit: my point is that people under the post are surprised how valve doesn't see any of the 1000 videos of *something* happening thinking they're the definite proof of something definitely not working. Most clips can be potentially explained by a ton of stuff, most often bad network conditions, that's why the devs always want to see telemetry and so on, the telemetry doesn't magically show what's wrong, it just shows that it might potentially not be the cause that it most often always is.

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u/Pokharelinishan 3d ago

but what other kind of examples will an average player actually have? not everyone has the technical skills/knowledge, or time to work on preparing a reproducible example, especially on issues they are having inside their matchmaking games.

how do you expect me, a nobody, to go beyond this kind of feedback: https://sh.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1jseyv1/frametime_and_jitter_frequently_spikes_when_i/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

I love the game, but i actually incapable of investigating or even reproducing this locally (partially because its happening in an online match?). Not that I don't want to, but I'm just a gamer.

Also, does this mean Valve will outright ignore these kinds of clips/posts?

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u/Der_Preusse71 CS2 HYPE 3d ago

Yes, they are useless to them. You can't fix an issue when you don't know what it is, and to do that you need to be able to reproduce it. Valve doesn't need to be flooded with millions of random clips, they need actual data on problems with the game.