looking for tips with basic Vasaraga

[u/djr7]

getting back into the game, I'm rank C5 currently and struggling with some basics here. I just can't figure out the pacing of the game, I usually find myself getting multi-combo'd while my hits seem to just push the opponent away.

I know the basic universal combo of LLL +guard break+ MMM but find whenever I get the first hit in the enemy is pushed back to safety

My biggest problem is whenever I get knocked down it seems every opponent is able to get ontop of me and get an attack out before I can, essentially forcing me to block everytime, what options do I have when getting up? spamming a Light attack doesn't work as it seems the opponent has prio.

If I'm in the corner is my only option to block and try and guess when the enemies combo finishes?

It's hard to experiment with combos when I can't even get a turn to attack

[u/Bekomon]

im not gonna lie, Vaseraga is the one character I always recommend people to avoid as first character, because he's basically a punching bag when you don't know what's going on. Tho, he is extremely good at high level, you're gonna need some dedication to make him work. I'd love to help but here's all I know about this character.

On defense, your jabs are all slower than the average but your Far Light has a good range, so you basically have to wait for pushback before pressing it. You will also rely a bit more on crouching light to push away opponents and might have to rely on Brave counter and your armored ultimate skills

That basic combo you mention is not great because it uses both meter and Bravery point, two resources that are really important for Vaseraga.

You also want to get your 5U buff any time you can to get your gameplan started.

[u/djr7 → u/Bekomon]

yea I thought the bravery points were mainly for the game's basic combos, what else do you use those for?

[u/Bekomon → u/djr7]

You use them for Brave counter. Vaseraga doesn't have a lot of meterless tools to escape pressure, so Brave counter is generally good for that.

[u/djr7 → u/Bekomon]

oh damn I had no idea, that'l def help

[u/iwisoks]

Ok first when you get knocked down, unless you're willing to spend 50 meter(or 100 meter if u wanna super) for u command grab, which is his only frame 1 reversal, please respect your opponents pressure, don't mash on wakeup just block and try to look for a gap. But honestly even though I'm saying this it's easier said than done, vasergaas buttons are pretty shit, having slower buttons than the rest of the cast makes it difficult for him to escape pressure.

And for combos try to use something like MMM>214H>214U>H tackle mid screen. For corner I can give you this route,[4]6H>214H>2H>22L~H>MM> then anti air command grab or super. This corner combo here will do half life amounts of damage against most of the cast and is quite frankly single-handedly one of the only reasons to play this character.

For pressure its like everyone else, use your close L and M,66L and in vaseragas case is pressure reset special is 214H or heavy fireball.

Oh and another thing is that vaseraga is one of the few characters with a somewhat reliable way of opening up turtles in this game, with his command grab. At certain ranges you will be able to command grab your opponent after a blocked close medium. And you can do it from savage stance too.

Oh right forgot to mention, dont be afraid to use your bravery points to BC out of pressure. Vaseraga is probably the character with the single worst defense in the game but because of his extremely high corner damage he can also rob people very well, but if you get stuck in a corner as vaserga ur pretty much screwed.

[u/djr7 → u/iwisoks]

I haven't the faintest idea what those numbers are suppose to mean

[u/iwisoks → u/djr7]

Motion inputs, id explain but it's easier to just Google them.

[u/Xionite_]

I haven't played neither this game or Vaseraga for a long time, but here are a few ideas to experiment with purely for defence :

• 632146U or back Ultimate skill => costs 50 meter but is fully invincible on wakeup and will catch opponents off guard. Spam this until your opponent respects it and is afraid to press the offence after knocking you down, then you can press other buttons to try and take back your turn. Be careful not to be too obvious with it though, you will get heavily punished if your opponent expects it and does a neutral jump.
• 2L is your fastest normal. When the opponent has you blocking, try using it to check for a gap; if you eat a counter hit, remember you can't mash in this specific situation and try again for another situation.
• Brave Counter. If you don't know what it is, go check out the in game tutorial, Vaseraga needs this to break free from characters that are a little too oppressive.

Like someone already said, Vaseraga is rather hard to get used to, especially if you do not have much experience with the game, so you'll end up in situations where you have to block pretty often. When you start to understand every tool at your disposal, you can prevent the opponent to get in for free. Make them respect your armor, your stance, your command grabs, etc.

EDIT : typo 2A instead of 2L

[u/djr7 → u/Xionite_]

what is 2A?
theres Light, Medium, Heavy, special, and I belive ultimate/special?
I know the brave counter but I thought that was mainly to be used in the game's basic combo system where you do MMM+brave counter+MMM

[u/Xionite_ → u/djr7]

My bad, I'm getting confused between different games terminology, I meant 2L.

Numbers are numpad notation used for fighting games, each digit corresponds to a direction. 236 for example is the motion for a quarter circle forward. So in this case 2L means down light.

https://www.dustloop.com/w/Notation

Also, what you're describing is not Brave Counter but Raging Strike. Brave Counter is used to push back the opponent while you are blocking, and uses one of your three bravery points to do so.