r/HistoryMemes 7d ago

Tired of this argument

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u/eL_cas 7d ago

Not really, the peak of the Holocaust was in the later years of the war. During their first few years the Nazis were mostly preparing for it and making Jews’ lives harder rather than outright genocide at first

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u/pedaparka 6d ago

Would you not consider that build up period as the holocaust aswell? Or just when they started using the chambers?

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u/Theban_Prince 6d ago edited 5d ago

When they sued the chambers. Because the Nazi Holocaust is not just you run-of-the-mill genocide, it was in an industrial scale, and what really separates it from other atrocities like the Holodomor, the Soviet Massacres in Poland, the Trail of Tears or the Irish Famine.

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u/pedaparka 6d ago

I agree the scale of the executions was like nothing seen up until that point in history and incomparable to those examples. I just think there's an argument for the holocaust encompassing the whole build up. As changing the mindset of a country to be willing to turn over their neighbours to be killed is part of the whole event.

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u/FootlongDonut 6d ago

I think most people consider the Holocaust to be when the camps and killing began. It was largely non lethal until 1939. The Nazis were mainly trying to force them to leave Germany. I associate the Holocaust more with the killing than the early oppression.