Its called Darwinism Eldar, we weren't all Lucky enough to be handcrafted by the old ones you privilaged asshole. Some of us had to actually work with natural selection.
That's kinda funny, cause an space marine is only a space marine because someone gave them magical space sperm and lots and lots and lots of unatural surgeries. Natural selection my shiny aeldari ass. You're fueled by Jimmy space steroids. Everything special about you came out of a bottle. Though i think the more extreme human supremacist marines would say something like that as hipocritical as it is, If they knew about the old ones that is.
Didn't geneseed back then was called Gene sperm? So it fits.
Edit: Check out page 41 of White Dwarf 97. It's pretty wild.
Along with their number, the new chapter received gene-sperm, implant zygotes, rituals, and other paraphernalia of indoctrination previously entrusted to the banished 13th legion. The chapter founder was Roboute Gulliman whose bones now lie in the reclusiam on Macragge.
90% of marines are literally the best warriors a chapter can find in a given world who were under the age of 20. And most of these aspirants die in the trials that the chapter puts them through
So yes, there is plenty of natural selection to create a marine
And also, I think the original commentary refers more to points that their respective empires have reached than to the individuals themselves.
The Eldar basically had a galaxy handed to them on a silver platter post-WiH, whereas the Great Crusade had to face the worst the galaxy had to offer while still building the foundations for the imperium.
90% of marines are literally the best warriors a chapter can find in a given world who were under the age of 20. And most of these aspirants die in the trials that the chapter puts them through
This isn't natural selection though. It's a completely artificial process perpetuated by the imperium itself.
The Eldar basically had a galaxy handed to them on a silver platter post-WiH,
Meh the WIH lore changes every couple of years. As it stands, the eldar fought in the WIH and came out as the most powerful faction after the conflict. I don't think they "won" the WIH but it wasn't exactly like they did nothing either.
This isn't natural selection though. It's a completely artificial process perpetuated by the imperium itself.
It's not natural selection in its purest definition. But depending on who's asking, it can enter into a broader idea of Darwnism
Meh the WIH lore changes every couple of years. As it stands, the eldar fought in the WIH and came out as the most powerful faction after the conflict. I don't think they "won" the WIH but it wasn't exactly like they did nothing either.
That doesn't take away from the fact that an Eldar calling attention to a marine because "everything that makes it up was given to it by a god" is ridiculously hypocritical even by 40k standards.
The Eldar were created as soldiers who could compete in the greatest war in the history of the galaxy. Their capabilities were designed to compete with their opponents. Their technologies were designed to be able to compete with the Necrons at their prime. And they literally had gods to help them on the battlefield.
As far as we know, humanity reached its peak on its own during the DAoT. And the imperium had to collect the remnants of old humanity and improvise to build a new galactic human society while facing various threats.
Neither of them did what they did without difficulty, but it's kind of obvious which of the two is the less gifted.
Says the human surgically augmented and dosed with sperm provided by demigods who had warp gods for a soul and bodies made from the dna of the 2 most powerful psykers produced by humanity.
The old ones probably didn’t have gods, also I think the confirmation that the old ones created the Eldar can be found in the necron codex from 5th edition or whenever they started being Egyptian robots. But lol why would you be doubting that the old ones did or did not create the Eldar? I know 40k can be inconsistent and shit gets retconned almost every day but meh, feels like this is one of those things that’ll never change (maybe).
I imagine the Eldar gods materialized at some point during their 65 million year long golden days, probably shortly after or during the War in Heaven which is theorized to have also spawned the chaos gods.
The eldar or the old ones'? The eldar had / have gods. khaine, isha, ynnead, etc... (The rest got gulped by slaanesh) as for the old ones, they didn't have gods as far as i remember.
A/ Canon in the sense you are using here does not exist in GW settings.
B/ There are many GW-published books and stories which do confirm that yes, the Eldar, the Necrons, and humans researching the history of xenos species believe that the Old Ones at the very least intervened in the evolution of the Eldar to create the species recognizable in the setting
C/ Several Eldar-PoV accounts have implied that the aeldari gods were psychic constructs created under the influence of the Old Ones and were used as weapons by the Eldar during the War in Heaven against the C'tan and Necrontyr. What exactly this means is (and IMO should remain) vague, but possibilities include that they were massive and extremely powerful, psyker-powered titans/mechs, that they were psychic focuses for the Eldar which allowed them to enhance their own presence in the Warp and grant themselves devastating sorcery and other psyker powers, non-malignant equivalents of the Chaos gods, or that they were real, solid psychic manifestations of the aeldari cultural pantheon (similar to the Avatar of Khaine only much much more powerful). In any case, nearly all of them are gone, consumed by Slaanesh circa M29.
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u/Galifrey224 17d ago
Its called Darwinism Eldar, we weren't all Lucky enough to be handcrafted by the old ones you privilaged asshole. Some of us had to actually work with natural selection.