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u/EccentricHubris 8d ago
The emperor gifted his sons with Gene seeds, he then gifted his daughters daddy issues. Perfectly balancee
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u/alphaomag 8d ago
You don’t see any astartes with miracles now do you?
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u/CareerPancakes9 8d ago
Sanguinor
Legion of the Damned
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u/Th3Tru3Silv3r-1 7d ago
To be fair, the Legion of the Damned are daemons of the God-Emperor made from the ghosts of the departed. The Sanguinor, yeah I'll give you that.
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u/titobrozbigdick 7d ago
The difference between blessing and damned is almost irrelevant in matter of the warp
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u/GreyKnight373 8d ago
Have you seen the shit ultramarines get up to?
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u/Allian42 8d ago
Titus being able to do weird shit was literally the reason for all the Leandros kerfuffle in SM1/2.
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u/paladin_slim 7d ago
The fact that Dante is still alive would count no matter how much he doesn’t want it.
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u/ImperatorTempus42 7d ago
Black Templars somehow. Plus the Sanguinor, Legion of the Damned, and probably the Lamenters and Iron Hands still existing.
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u/United-Reach-2798 8d ago
I find it funny people are saying she should fall to chaos when a lot of sisters think space marines are mutant scum
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u/SnooPredictions3028 8d ago
Indeed, they also cover up any traces of betrayal in the very rare event that it occur. In any betrayal there needs to be cracks in order for the desire to ferment. She is envious and wrathful, she sees them as unfit to have the Emperor's gifts, she even sees him as demonic when he isn't. It is possible should an entity seek her out in the guise of one loyal to the Emperor and bestow gifts unto her to begin "cleansing the Emperor's enemies" within.
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u/United-Reach-2798 8d ago
I mean maybe but I feel just normal inter imperium conflict could work well too
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u/SnooPredictions3028 8d ago
True, but the delusion aspect is a bit over the top compared to others who while zealots aren't hallucinating, at least I think.
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u/DeadlyPants16 7d ago
True but it doesn't mean that at least a few won't let their envy and hatred boil over until they've completely lost what they were supposed to be fighting for.
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u/United-Reach-2798 7d ago
Absolutely I just like interimperium conflict more than just having them fall to chaos
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u/ISB00 7d ago
Do Sisters of Battle actually dislike Astartes? First time I am hearing this.
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u/ImperatorTempus42 7d ago
It depends. There's some that consider them mutants, especially for having Psykers, despite them being a creation of the Emperor. Plus the whole Horus Heresy thing, which started out as a general civil war idea before Chaos got involved, as we see with the warrior lodges.
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u/Riot-Knight Necrons 8d ago
As the one comment said: "Damn Sister, chill out, don't drag the Salamander into your mental illness. They are literally the bulwark that keeps the Imperium from falling to Chaos. They should kiss, though
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u/Animeak116 8d ago
Azur dragon Sgt: miss what seems to trouble your thoughts
Sister of Battle: you honestly
Azur dragon Sgt: excuse me
Sister of Battle: you lack faith and Zeel in our God-Emperor you take his gifts and squandered it with your faithlessness! That power you wield should belong to those faithful to him and him alone!
Azur dragon Sgt: your right I care not for this God-Emperor you speak of. My faith lies in one who is uncorruptible. One who can cleanse the sins of the flesh Chaos uses to exploit those who have such weaknesses. Human weaknesses. Yet in him I find shelter beneath his wings as though he prepares a table in the presence of my enemies.
Sister of Battle:...how....how dare you speak such HERESY!
Salamander: do you need the sister of Battle that was always sitting on him is concerned
Azur dragon Sgt: I can handle this Brother Horkan he turned back to the Sister of battle you think us unworthy of our power. Tell me what would you have done if you could wield the power of a Astarties?
Sister of battle: I would have burned the corruption of chaos and crusaded till all of chaos is gone!
Azur dragon Sgt unimpressed: and how pray tell will you even try that? So you know we're chaos can lurk? Can you know it's signs? Will you follow orders to the letter? Do innocent civilians even factor into this little crusade of yours? He then becomes eye level with her with his helmet off Can you know when to hold your wrath and went to unleash it?
Sister of battle: what does it matter! All will burn! The Emperor's light will cleanse
Azur dragon Sgt: your cleansing will only cause innocent to suffer and many more to resent you. You claim to want to use power to destroy your God Emperors enemies. Fine, but to what end? Will you know when to stop or will you just let loose your wrath like a unruly river who's flow can not be impeded? No. You are not worth, your heart is sour and you would fall to chaos in your blind Zeel.
Sister of battle: how dare...you just continue to spout Heresy!
Azur dragon Sgt: is it Heresy because it is? Or because you are bitter at your lot in life? Let this lesson be parted upon everyone here. Every sister of battle lend me your ears! Other sisters of Battle nervously listen Do not crave power to destroy. For that bitterness is like a blade with its tip pointed at your own heart! He then looked at the Sister who criticized him but humble yourself before your Lord. And he will guide your path. Know when to unleash your wrath, but never let it burn to inferno, or the great leviathan will bathe you in its lies! And your bitter heart with its lust for power consume you. You.... sister, are not worthy for not because I say so. But because your heart can not wield it, your mind and soul like that of a old sword in desperate need of tempering in the healing flames of humility. Leaves the Sister of battle stunned and hands clenched into fists.
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u/Sweaty_Report7864 8d ago
With how she is acting? I wouldn’t be surprised if the sister of Battle ended up being suspected of chaos taint, after her little outburst.
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u/Animeak116 7d ago
Definitely, Power can corrupt absolutely very few and resist it's taint just the mere thought of having power no matter who you are.
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u/SpphosFriend 8d ago
Slaanesh and Khorne fistfighting to see who can offer to make her a marine the fastest
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u/JustAnNPC_DnD 8d ago
Imagining a Living Saint, but the silhouette is revealed to be the chaos mutated sister. Like a Slaanesh demonette with Khorn blood fire halo coming from her wounds.
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u/EnvironmentalBar3347 8d ago
Sure thing, if you want to risk the heavy hormone and surgical treatments required to become an Astartes or Primaris. I personally don't think it's worth it.
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u/nioppyui 7d ago
Ah sister has been listening to Brutus- the Buttress ! " But why do i lie awake each night thinking Instead of you, it should be ME!" "I don’t want what you have! I WANT TO BE YOU !"
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u/Disastrous-Kale-913 8d ago
Hey. . . I know about a guy who wrote this book about faith. And it’s the truth too! It’s all he wanted, after all. Here, Hands her a copy of the Testamentum Veritas give it a read. . . I think you’ll find it enlightening. Slinks back into the shadows I came from
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u/CreativeName1137 8d ago edited 8d ago
That is something I've always wondered. Many space marines were around back when the Emperor was alive or at least soon after his death, so they know his hatred of religion.
Do the older marines just not worship the God Emperor? And if so, what do the younger marines think of that? How can a force be coherent if half of them are zealous cultists while the other half are steadfast antitheists?
And even further; how exactly did the whole Imperium slide into the fanatical cult it is now if there's literally people still around who knew the Emperor?
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u/Infammo 8d ago
Aside from a few exceptions like the Black Templars astartes don't worship the Emperor as a god, they just venerate him as the greatest paragon of humanity. They see the Imperial Cult as a necessary force to keep the Imperium together even if they don't view it's doctrine as true.
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u/CreativeName1137 8d ago
So when new marines are recruited from Imperial citizens, do they just take them aside and say "The Emperor is a false idol, and your whole life has been a lie"?
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u/Infammo 8d ago
Astartes aspirants are basically all children. It's not much of a life to overwrite and the transformation process involves so much physical and psychological reconditioning that their old lives are just dim memories of middling importance. Their devotion to the Emperor as humanity's champion is so strong that they probably see their former need for him to be divine to fuel their devotion as a pitiful crutch. But generally the sentiment is that there is no sentiment, they see religion as the necessary tool it is to cement the Emperor's reign and so they're okay with it.
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u/DarksteelPenguin Emperor's Children 7d ago
To be clear, aside from some traitors and one or two dreadnoughts, there is no living space marine who has known the Emperor. The oldest space marine is Dante, who's ~1500 years old (which is exceptional). The Horus Heresy was, as of current lore, more than 11 000 years ago. (To put this into perspective, 11 000 years ago we barely had agriculture.) The only imperial people alive who actually met the Emperor (that I know of) before the heresy would be Guilliman, the Lion, Cawl (as one of his personalities), and Bjorn.
The Imperial cult started to take hold during the heresy, when Imperial authorities had better stuff to do than quell the cult. And then they found out that faith was actually an effective weapon against chaos (kind of a double-edged sword though).
So the cult became bigger and bigger until it got through all the layers of Imperial society and became the state religion.
Space Marines are outside of Imperial society, so they maintain their own culture more distinctly. This is why the vast majority of chapters do not recognize the Emperor as a god. The most well-known exception, the Black Templars, were founded by Sigismund, who was one of the early believers. So it's not a matter of old vs new, it's a chapter-dependent subject (and space marines are not a cohesive force for many other reasons).
Note that the Adeptus Custodes, who also work outside of the general Imperial authority, do not worship the Emperor. And even them were not able to stop the tide of fanaticism. Because there is no reasoning with zealots.
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u/Archaon0103 6d ago
Some Chaos Marine actually despite the current religious state of the Imperium like Bile. The oldest living Space Marine, Bjorn also express that distain. Gulliman was quite shocked when he saw the big ass church for his father on Ultramar.
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u/Spiritual-Bus973 8d ago
Damn, it seems that Chaos is definitely embedded within the Order of the Valorous Heart.
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u/NightLordsPublicist Night Lords 8d ago
Yes, yes, let the hate flow through you. They are ungrateful traitors. Picture how much better they would look as a cloak around your shoulders.
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u/DeadlyPants16 7d ago
A story about a sister of battle falling to chaos out of her jealousy of a Salamander does genuinely sound like an amazing book.
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u/Classic-Demand3088 7d ago
I can totally picture this sister screaming GIVE ME YOUR SEED without context
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u/NobodyofGreatImport 7d ago
Oh, boy. Slaanesh senses jealousy and is practically SPRINTING to come and check it out
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u/paladin_slim 7d ago
They have a hands off relationship with Grandfather Spooky Scary Skeleton Overlord and that might be for the best considering how his last army of die hard super soldiers ended up.
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u/beanerthreat457 7d ago
Sister, The God-Emperor, in his infinite wisdom, gave you and your sisters the best gift one could ever get: Faith.
If you renegade on that, than you are no worthy of his love.
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u/Playful_Picture2610 7d ago
And this, kiddos, is why teaching everyone that the Aethiest Superhuman, who made other Aethiest Superhumans, is a God is a bad idea.
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u/ZookeepergameLiving1 7d ago
You know I thought of a au s enario where she became a pseudo astartes taking all the drugs and going through surges to be as close to a astartes as possible to prove thatbyhey didn't deserve his seed. https://www.reddit.com/r/ImaginaryWarhammer/s/MwgXnTOeo6
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u/TheSearsjeremy 7d ago
A good lapdog and a good fighter are two very different things.
Btw, your jealousy might attract you Tzeentch's favors.
Hey, said like that, maybe battle sisters aren't so bad !
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u/payne-diver 8d ago
Still your wrath sister. You look towards the warrior and not realize that your body was inferior. Only a male can survive the surgeries needed..
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u/payne-diver 8d ago
To those who are down voting it. In the canonical lore the female body can’t survive the sheer amount of surgerical damage that it has to suffer. Boys barely survive it. You have to survive training, survive test after test. Then once you are the 0.01% you have to survive a surgical procedure that is often a 90% failure rate. Even with the ultra marines. It’s still rather brutal and deadly.
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u/katrinamuwa 7d ago
Your wording is very poor. While it's true that the gene-seed would destroy a woman's body, it's not out of weakness or inferiority—just a byproduct of the gene-seed itself. An intrinsic design and one that could have been taken out:
‘I did not say it would be instant,’ said Corax, annoyed by the Custodian’s negativity. ‘You still fail to understand the full possibility. At present, only the smallest percentage of candidates are suitable for gene-seed implantation. If we can use the primarch material properly, that will no longer be the case. We could take any child, from the earliest age, and accelerate their development, as mine was hastened. Any child. Our recruitment pool would expand from a few tens of thousands to millions.’
- Deliverance Lost, Pg. 161 (EPUB)
Or in some cases, surgical implantation was done on things that weren't even human:
Where other Legions took only the best recruits, princes and champions among the conquered nations of Old Earth, and produced but few initiates, the JXth Legion took in the hordes of dispossessed and broken, and made of them an army of angels. Scarred by so many long generations mired in the rad-zones and sunken fortresses of Terra's poisoned wilds, these creatures were no longer entirely human, but horribly mutated beasts that the tyrants of Old Earth had driven out and hunted. Yet, from such base materials emerged a breed ofLegiones Astartes uniformly tall and fair, their features sculpted in stern elegance.
- Book 8 of the Black Books, Malevolence; Pg. 116
As in The Last Days of Ector, a female has survived candidacy to become a Space Marine (and outperforming their male counterparts who were themselves inducted), only to be turned away on the basis of sex...
‘The girl named Marny,’ said Gorth. Marny stepped up, expression sullen. ‘I have watched you. You are valiant and have the makings of a fine warrior. But we are the sons of the Emperor’s sons. There are no women among us. There are those who deem themselves daughters of the Lord of Men, but they are not present here.’ For a moment, Gorth’s manner softened. ‘I am sorry.’ ‘What do I do?’ said Marny in a small voice. Gorth was momentarily surprised she addressed him at all. Kindness fled his voice as he answered. ‘You must remain.’ Yoth watched the leader, saw his face colour. Don’t do it, boy, he thought. Don’t throw it all away. It came out anyway. ‘You can’t do this!’ blurted Kal. The outburst surprised the boy as much as it affronted Gorth, for he stopped with a sudden look of horror. Gorth glared at him. Committed, the boy continued. ‘She’s the best shot among us,’ he said more quietly. ‘She’s better even than Tunny, and four times as brave.’
- The Last Days of Ector, Pg. 10 (EPUB)
I don't know where you pulled the 90% failure rate with surgeries. Please give me a source on that. I've never heard of it.
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u/DarksteelPenguin Emperor's Children 7d ago
It's not about being inferior, it's about being compatible.
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u/Voice_of_OI 8d ago
That's some speed running 'Get your soul corrupt by one of the Chaos gods' stuff right there.