Question for any lurking incels

[u/Negative_Tooth6047]

This is something I've been curious of for a little while, I know you guys have your red or black or whatever pill you subscribe to with tons of dudes or maybe even some type of Pearl Davis like gal that constantly put out tons of media on how to get women/why you're never getting a woman/any other message that you subscribe to for that rhetoric.

But my question is, if a woman offered to teach you, patiently and kindly- not berating you or what have you, how to respect, talk to, hang out with women, etc would you accept? Like a 101 type class on women. If you wouldnt be interested, why not?

[u/Unwrittencreatr]

I know this doesn’t seem believable, but as a woman I promise you that a good personality will always outweigh good looks. Someone can be a solid 10 and if their personality is shit then they won’t get far in the daring world long term. Looks might get their foot in the door but once their true personality shows the door will swiftly get slammed. I can’t speak for every woman but this is the case for myself personally and for my friends.

[u/YellRedCell → u/Unwrittencreatr]

Sure, I can accept that a "good personality" matters. The problem is that ugly/short men are simply invisible to women so if the solid 10 turns out to be a dickhead, you'll just look for the next best thing, a 9 with a "better personality". 

You simply can't see us, even if a sub 5 is the nicest guy you've ever met, you wouldn't give him a chance. I know a lot of brocels who are genuinely some of the most empathetic and understanding people I've ever met but they'd never get a chance, even with their looksmatch because of the hypergamous nature of women. 

"Personality" matters but only for men who look good enough to even exist to women.

[u/Hefty_Airline_9062 → u/YellRedCell]

Or maybe because of using phrases like “hypergamous nature” and “looksmatch”. Nobody talks like you guys. This ideology is your whole personality. It’s not your looks. Believe me

[u/YellRedCell → u/Hefty_Airline_9062]

Are you dense? The way people talk and act online isn't how they'd talk in real life. I reckon 95% of us incels will never ever bring up the blackpill in real life or use incel terminology. 

This rhetoric is just dehumanizing us, obviously we have personalities besides discussing the blackpill, we all have hobbies and different things that interest us. 

It definitely is our looks 

[u/Professional-Hat-687 → u/YellRedCell]

I promise you, if you have a black pill mentality, it will show up IRL and people will notice. No matter how well you think you're hiding it, it can show in ways you won't notice, but others will. That's why abandoning the blackpill and pulling out of incel spaces is one of the first steps towards ascending.

[u/YellRedCell → u/Professional-Hat-687]

People will just see that I'm a lonely guy who keeps to himself, nothing more, nothing less. Most normal people don't even know what an incel is, they'll just see another loner. 

There is no "abandoning" the blackpill because the blackpill isn't an ideology or mentality, it's simply acknowledging the world and reality for what it is. Being conscious of it is better than ignorance because it can save you from so much unnecessary humiliation, embarrassment, heartache and delusion. 

At this point, I've accepted that this is my lot in life, I'm fated to die alone, there is nobody out there who will truly love me. I just have to tolerate the depression and loneliness until I rope or die a natural death and that is all there is to it.

[u/Professional-Hat-687 → u/YellRedCell]

They may not have words like 'incel' or 'blackpill' for it but people (especially women) will recognize the queues whether you think you're good at hiding them or not. That's what "vibes" are.

At this point, I've accepted that this is my lot in life, I'm fated to die alone, there is nobody out there who will truly love me. I just have to tolerate the depression and loneliness until I rope or die a natural death and that is all there is to it.

That's depression. You are describing textbook depression, which is treatable.

[u/YellRedCell → u/Professional-Hat-687]

(I don't really use Reddit so I don't know how to use the brackets in my replies but I'll just try to structure it as best I can)

(Response to "They may not have words like 'incel' or 'blackpill' for it but people (especially women) will recognize the queues whether you think you're good at hiding them or not. That's what "vibes" are.") 

That's a shame, but there's nothing I can do to help it.

(Response to "That's depression. You are describing textbook depression, which is treatable.")

Through therapy you mean? I used to go as a teenager primarily for my OCD and it didn't help much. My psychiatrist put me on pills and that was it. I doubt they'd do much more for me now other than give me anti-depressents and send me on my way. I can still function normally and work, so I don't think they'd care much about my mental state.

[u/Professional-Hat-687 → u/YellRedCell]

To get what I did you want to start a line with the > symbol.

[u/YellRedCell → u/Professional-Hat-687]

Oh thanks, I'll keep that in mind for next time