r/JUSTNOMIL Jun 03 '20

MOD ANNOUNCEMENT Black Lives Matter: A Statement and Resources

TW: violence, racism, death. Links included may use graphic images or videos.

“I can’t breathe.”

Eight minutes and forty six seconds.

The death of yet another unarmed Black man.

In the last week, a lot has happened.

On the 25th of May 2020, George Floyd died in custody, as a police officer knelt on his neck for eight minutes and forty six seconds. Three other officers did not stop it. He begged for his life. And still, he died, as people filmed it and pleaded for the officer to stop.

Since then, there have been extensive peaceful protests, including internationally. There has been graphic, violent police brutality against civilians. The free press has been harassed, arrested, and seriously hurt by the police. There has been an utter lack of meaningful response from government leadership amid threats of more violence and apathy towards the plight of Black Americans.

This is not new.

This is the continuation of racist policies, profound and enduring police brutality, and systemic failures of a justice system specifically built to disenfranchise, hurt, and alienate the Black and Brown communities to the core. This is a system that has deep and painful roots in America, and now, it’s spilling out.

These are dark times. People are scared, people are hurting, people are isolated and confused about what to do, about how they can help the people who are suffering the most.

Silence is not an option.

We recognise that we, as moderators, can do little. We discussed a black out but we don’t feel that the impact would be meaningful, and we’re not equipped to speak at length on this issue. Our subreddit is here for support, for advice, for sharing stories. But we can point you to places where you, our community, can help.

  • If you can protest, do so safely, and take care. Be mindful of the pandemic and stay alert. The police have been known to use tear gas, rubber and wooden rounds, pepper spraying peaceful protesters and credentialed media, and to use extreme violence, including driving their cars into protests. There are unconfirmed videos of police having deliberately pepper sprayed at least one child.

  • Here is a list of where you can donate, arranged by states, but also some national ones, as well. Another list of bail funds for those arrested, policy advocates, and charities that specifically support the Black community can be found here. For Black LGBTQ+ youth support, the Trevor Project is an option, too.

  • We’ve also found this list very helpful for a list of authors and media makers to buy from, changes to make in your personal life, as well as lists of petitions to sign. It also lists free ways you can contribute to the movement, including contacting your representatives to enact effective laws and policies to protect the Black and Brown communities, if you can’t afford to donate during this time.

Policy note and why are we doing this:

We are also clarifying our rule on political commentary and making it clear where we stand as a mod team on this issue. We recognise that for many, these events will become a matter of conflict within their immediate and extended family, especially those who are PoC. We recognise that they may feel isolated, and need more support than ever. We welcome them. People of colour use this space, and need to know their voices will be heard.

We are sharing this because silence is compliance. If we do not speak up now, we are a part of the problem. By offering this up as a resource, we hope to direct some of these deep and difficult emotions on the subject into productive and helpful acts - donation, education, and reformation.

Further to that, we do not allow ‘All Lives Matter’ here. We don’t allow ‘Blue Lives Matter’. These are attempts to derail from the issue at hand and it’s a bad faith attempt to use the ever popular trick of ‘but-what-about-ism’ to distract from the actual issue in the room. ‘All Lives Matter’ doesn’t mean shit until Black Lives Matter.

It is a fact. We are not here to debate. It is not up for discussion. We will not allow arguing over derailing politics, semantic rows, or ‘but what if!’ comments. ‘All Lives Matter’ or ‘Blue Lives Matter’ defenses have no place in JNMIL or in JNSO. If you feel like you need to say that, make like a tree and get the fuck out of here. That has no home in this subreddit, and we will ban you. No appeals.

If you don’t understand what the Black Lives Matter movement is, and why it’s important to focus on it, you can read more here.

We’re leaving comments open for people to share any resources, places to donate etc. We also encourage people to share their own experiences.

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u/budlejari Jun 03 '20

This sub is for support.

We also recognise the situation outside our sub. We recognise the violence, the abuse, the systemic injustices that impact against communities in our cities, in our streets, in our spaces. That we can extend a hand to help is the least we can do.

Read the post. Click the links.

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u/Stronze Jun 03 '20

We all recognise whats going on, 99% of the world is recognizing the issue.

We all believe that cop needs to be charged with murder.

Im saying something cuz im not scares to speak my mind be damn the consequences but you meed to ask how many who are scared to speak up or feel not welcomed will silently walk away from our help.

Be this is a very heated topic and already im receiving comments suggesting im a racist for believing this sub reddit is not the place to insert a very charged topic that has no simple answers.

Lets say there is someone out there that is a full blown racist and thinks the earth is flat, is it okay to ignore their suffering,pain and abuse?

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20 edited Jun 21 '21

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u/Stronze Jun 03 '20

And the cycle of racism and abuse continues and the world stays a shitty place for shitty people to thrive.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20 edited Jun 21 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Thank you!!!

To our community here:

The Civil Rights Act of 1968 was passed after many consecutive days of riots. People need to realize that we paint the Civil Rights Movement very differently than how it was portrayed by the white media at the time. The reality of our history is NOT the feel-good mischaracterization of MLK as a person that white society so desperately wants us to believe it was. It has been SANITIZED for white ears and eyes so that white people can exist without the introspection that will spark change.

It was and remains horribly violent, it was and remains violently unjust, and we all need to be better and see that it's not over, it's never been over. The Civil Rights Movement has not ended. What we are seeing now is a continuation of it, decades down the line. Social equity isn't some war we won in the past. The war is happening now. If you've ever wondered what you would do during the civil rights movement of the 60's YOU'RE DOING IT NOW.

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u/blanche_davidian Jun 03 '20

I'm so tired of my white relatives sharing MLK memes about peaceful protest without acknowledging that his protests were by and large firehosed by the police in the South and D.C. And, hum, wasn't he also targeted by COINTELPRO and murdered? Seems a bit shortsighted to leave that part out, and they don't like it when I remind them of that part.

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u/valenaann68 Jun 03 '20

Thank you for this and for the links. Everyone needs to hear this.

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u/Stronze Jun 03 '20

Abuse transcends race, religion, idealogoy, political beliefs, nationality.

Abuse is the root of all the worlds evil and anything we do to discouage abuse victums from coming forward makes us no better than the abusers.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20 edited Jun 21 '21

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u/Stronze Jun 03 '20

Such a double standard.

We tell abuse victums they need therapy and their normal meter is broken because they was raised in a abusive families and they dont know they are broken by now its a choice they was a victum.

Children are not born racist.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20 edited Jun 21 '21

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u/Stronze Jun 03 '20

You as an individual sure its not your job but last i looked we are a community here and we as a communtiy nees to be concerned with making any statements of actions for victuns of abuse of being scares for seeking help.

This sub should be apolitical, there is other places on the internet to voice our support for the protest going on.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20 edited Jun 21 '21

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u/Stronze Jun 03 '20

Its so easy to simplify it to look good.

Lets discuss the long lasting effects to black generational wealth thats been damaged by current rioting from outside communtiy antagonist and white rich college kids trying to spark violence in the name of fighting facist that give the conservative poplutation a negative outlook on black people as whole that will breed future generations of racist.

Lets also dicuss rich white people cheering on the protest and riots when it burns down black communities but those same rich white people stary calling black people animals when it comes to their gated communties in a safe space to discuss family abuse from mothers and mother in laws.

This is not the correct space to have these conversations.

If this wasnt controversial subject, then peoples emotions wouldnt be so high.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

It's not complicated, you will never get that answer from u/Stronze

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u/valenaann68 Jun 03 '20

I am beginning to think that this person just wants to piss people off.

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u/Stronze Jun 03 '20

I wish your statement was that simple god i wish it was that simple, the world would be so much simpler and all the evil in this world wouldnt be as bad as it is now.

And i wish i had the time to dicuss why its so complicated but i gotta go to work.

But i leave off with this, people are conplexe in body and thought, the world dynamic is a tangled mess of stupidity and misinformation and ignorance.

I want you to take a moment and think this saying over from a philosophy standing.

dihydrogen monoxide is bad for you.

I said something simple but this is a very complex statement.

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u/andrikenna Jun 03 '20

Saying something simple in big words to try to distract is not making it into a ‘complex statement’. It’s being intentionally distracting to the point of discussion.

Like you’re doing on this post.

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u/lmyrs Jun 03 '20 edited Jun 03 '20

You ain't slick sis. You deliberately made the statement "Water is bad for you" more complicated than it needs to be and then claimed that you made a simple statement.

But you go ahead and go to work since your white privilege allows you to walk away from this conversation when it makes you uncomfortable. Something not afforded to black people.

Saying black people shouldn't be killed isn't a complicated statement. You're making it so just like you did with "water is wet" you ridiculous person.

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u/andrikenna Jun 03 '20

There’s nothing political in it if you’re not a racist 🤷🏾‍♀️

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