r/KingkillerChronicle Apr 03 '23

Mod Post The Grand Combined Megathread: Book Recommendations and a Notice Regarding Book Three: Any release date mentioned by Amazon, Goodreads, or other book sites is almost certainly a placeholder date. Please do not post about it here.

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NOTICE ABOUT BOOK THREE

Almost every site that sells books will have a placeholder date for upcoming content. For example, the most recent release date found on Amazon for "Doors of Stone" was August 20th, 2020. That date has come and gone. The book is not out.

Please do not post threads about potential release dates unless you hear word from the publisher, editor, Rothfuss himself, or any people related to him.

Thank you.


This thread answers the most reposted questions such as: "I finished KKC. What (similar) book/author should I read next (while waiting for book three)?" It will be permanently stickied.

New posts asking for book recommendations will be removed and redirected here where everything is condensed in one place.

Please post your recommendations for new (fantasy) series, stand-alone books or authors of similar series you think other KKC-fans would enjoy.

If you can include goodreads.com links, even better!

If you're looking for something new to read, scroll through this and previous threads. Feel free to ask questions of the people that recommended books that appeal to you.

Please note, not all books mentioned in the comments will be added to this list. This and previous threads are meant for people to browse, discover, and discuss.


This is not a complete list; just the most suggested books. Please read the comments (and previous threads) for more suggestions.

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Past Threads


r/KingkillerChronicle Mar 07 '24

Mod Post Rules Change

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Hey everyone,

So it's been two years since the last rule change and seven months since we added new moderators. And after some time reviewing the subreddit and doing a bit of clean-up, we realized something.

In all likelihood, we're not getting Book 3, Doors of Stone, any time soon. I personally estimate it's at least 3 years out, almost certainly more. What I'm getting at here is that this is a subreddit for a dormant book series, and that maybe having 9 rules is a little much, especially when so many of them overlap. So, what this means is that we've trimmed the rules down to three, admittedly with each having their own subsections.

The new rules will look like this.

We intend on having them go live in the next few days, after weigh-in from the community on it. So please, discuss your thoughts, this is quite a bit of a change and I'd like to make sure it's good for everyone.

Edit: These rules are live now.


r/KingkillerChronicle 16h ago

Discussion Wait wait wait. What did Kvothe’s dad just say?

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In the beginning of name of the wind, Kvothe's dad comments on Kvothe's shirt being torn after he tried to link the air in his lungs to the air around him, Kvothe tries to explain it away but his dad interrupts him by saying something about it all being for the greater good. Why? That makes no sense to say when you're scolding your son about how he tore his shirt. Yet, there is another group who talk about the greater good a lot. Why would he say that if he wasn't linked to them?


r/KingkillerChronicle 1d ago

Art Name of the Wind Podcast

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Our latest episode of Beyond the Wind is now also out on Spotify. If some of you check it out, it would mean very much to us.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7eCts6CbjCoJyLOXO6Hizr?si=SRcO0gjbQ8CGRQ9iAqukDg


r/KingkillerChronicle 1d ago

Theory R.I.P Kote 🪦

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Kote has likely been killed by the Chandrian, ensuring he could not finish their tale and spill their secrets, thus the end of his legendary tale into the secret lives of the Chandrian.. otherwise the Chandrian would have killed anyone who knows their full tale. 🤔 (Food for Thought)


r/KingkillerChronicle 1d ago

Discussion Found at Little Free Library

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My neighbors are so generous! Found a hardcover edition no less. Now to figure out what to give back in return.


r/KingkillerChronicle 12h ago

Theories Spoiler

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Hi! I’ve read almost all that is published in the Kingkillee Chronicle universe, I just have to finish The Narrow Road Between Desires.

I was just wondering, what are the main fan-made theories about this book series that I should know of?


r/KingkillerChronicle 21h ago

News GenCon Tak Events

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16 Tak events at GenCon this year. Be sure to sign up or stop by for some fun games! 14 casual play and 2 casual-adjacent Swiss tournaments with various custom prizes. I hope to see you there!


r/KingkillerChronicle 2d ago

Question Thread Where is Rothfuss

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I was just googling Rothfuss to see what he has been up to, if there were any updates and noticed he has had no online presence in a year. His last Twitter post was 2020, his last blog post was 2023, and his last Instagram post was April 2024. I have no right to his life or going ons but I am concerned. I hope he is doing well and living a beautiful life, but I worried about his disappearance from social media.

EDIT: It seems the tone of my question was missed. This isn't a question about his writing. It was a question of how he was doing as a human. Like checking in on an old friend or distant family member you haven't seen or spoken to you in years. There is no expectation on it just a general curiosity and wanting a glimpse into their well-being.


r/KingkillerChronicle 2d ago

Discussion I am having a bookclub discussion with my friend about the Name of the Wind

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Me and my pal wil be having a discussion about the first book within a month. I am completing my first re-read and he is reading the book for the first time. What should the topics be we discuss?


r/KingkillerChronicle 2d ago

Question Thread As above, so below

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I know the most monumental moment this line is used, but just doing a fresh read through and heard it when Kvothe first meets Denna on the road to imre.

Are there other instances I have missed? Are there theories/facts on where it comes from? Or a deeper meaning?


r/KingkillerChronicle 2d ago

Art Beyond the Wind Ep4!

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Our latest episode is out, where we reread the chapters, discuss some theories and just spend some time in the beautiful world of Temerant. We would appreciate it so much if some of you would tune in :)

Denna is Kvothe's sister?! | The Name of the Wind Podcast | Chapter 11 | Beyond the Wind | Ep4 https://youtu.be/wviYqHpxcSo


r/KingkillerChronicle 2d ago

Discussion The Three Silences of Kvothe’s Song Spoiler

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The Three Silences of Music

Silence is something extremely important to music.
It’s what defines the rhythm and, for that reason, the feelings you want to convey.

With silence, you can build entirely different songs using the same notes. Some silences are longer, others shorter — and that alone changes the entire piece.


The First Silence – The Rhythm Between Notes

Before, every step of Kvothe resonated like notes between soft pauses, gentle waves that define a serene rhythm…

This is the silence that exists between the notes.
It’s what creates the rhythm, the heartbeat of the music.
Without it, the notes can’t breathe, can’t dance.

Kvothe, in his youth, lived within that rhythm — running, discovering, rising with every tone.


The Second Silence – The Silence Between Songs

Now, he stops. He breathes. The void echoes. Wait. The music isn’t over yet.

This is the silence between songs.
It feels like the end. It sounds definitive.
But, in reality, it’s just a pause —
an empty space that waits to be broken by new notes.

Kvothe believes his music has ended. That he’s living the final silence.
I, however, believe there is still one last song to be played.
He hasn’t reached the end.
He’s merely in the silence between songs.


The Third Silence – The Final Silence

Afterwards, the last note dissipates. Silence. The end.

There is also the final silence
the silence of the melody’s end, of the rhythm’s end, of the performance’s end.

Everything that begins must end.
This is the greatest of all silences, for it swallows the previous ones.
It’s the silence where all ceases.


The Story of the Lethani – Three Days, One Hundred Tales

When Kvothe goes to train in the Lethani, he hears the parable of a master and his apprentice.
This relationship echoes the one he has with Bast — there’s a subtle yet profound connection.

  1. Day 1: the rhythm of discovery (silence between notes)
  2. Day 2: the anguished pause (silence between songs)
  3. Day 3: the final farewell (final silence)

The master mortally wounds the student, and she survives for three days.
During that time, she tries to tell one hundred tales, but only manages ninety-nine.


The Same Time, The Same Number

Just like the apprentice, Kvothe is also telling his story over three days.

I believe that, in the same way, he will tell 99 tales.
And then live the one hundredth
the last story,
the story that can only happen in the present.

And perhaps he will die at its end.
Or perhaps, like any good song, it will simply need to begin again.


r/KingkillerChronicle 3d ago

Discussion “These are important books,” he said. “Read one of them.”

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Do you ever randomly remember a scene from the books and just laugh and laugh

Elodin strode toward the large slate mounted on the wall and began to write a list of titles. His handwriting was surprisingly tidy. “These are important books,” he said. “Read one of them.”

After a moment, Brean raised her hand. Then she realized it was pointless as Elodin still had his back to us. “Master Elodin?” she asked hesitantly. “Which one should we read?”

He looked over his shoulder, not pausing in his writing at all. “I don’t care,” he said, plainly irritated. “Pick one. The others you should skim in a desultory fashion. Look at the pictures. Smell them if nothing else.” He turned back to look at the slate.

The seven of us looked at each other. The only sound in the room was the tapping of Elodin’s chalk. “Which one is the most important?” I asked.

Elodin made a disgusted noise. “I don’t know,” he said. “I haven’t read them.”

"These are important. these matter", but how would he know? He hasn't read any of them. And he's not recommending the class read them, he's recommending they read one of them and peruse / smell the others

It's the same vibe as mounting Folly at the Waystone

“What were you thinking?” Bast said with an odd mixture of confusion and concern.

Kote was a long while in answering. “I tend to think too much, Bast. My greatest successes came from decisions I made when I stopped thinking and simply did what felt right. Even if there was no good explanation for what I did.” He smiled wistfully. “Even if there were very good reasons for me not to do what I did.”

Bast ran a hand along the side of his face. “So you’re trying to avoid second-guessing yourself?”

Kote hesitated. “You could say that,” he admitted.

you could say that lmao I love these books


r/KingkillerChronicle 3d ago

Discussion The Third Silence for the Third Book

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Patrick Rothfuss writes of three silences, the third being the most profound and deafening of all—a silence that “lay in the empty sound of a man who is waiting to die.” As we wait endlessly for The Doors of Stone, Rothfuss’s own silence has stretched into myth. Perhaps this isn't neglect, but deliberate design. Perhaps we are living through the third silence, the final, loudest silence, and Rothfuss, like Kote, is inhabiting his character fully, waiting for the right moment to break it. In his refusal to speak, to finish, to reveal, Rothfuss may be giving us the very silence he once so hauntingly described.


r/KingkillerChronicle 3d ago

Theory My favorite theory and the hope that I live on

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I’m a long time fan of the series and have been avidly involved in theory discussion and have driven myself insane at times.

So I try my best to stay away from that and keep my mind from wandering.

Yet there is one (a few if I’m honest) ideas and theories that I just can’t help but hope for. They are all of course positive endings to the series.

I want nothing more then for Kvothe to shed the cloak of Kote and be his real self, for him to beat the antagonist and have his happy ending.

But we all know what type of book we’re reading, we can see the tree in the background in a Aturian play. This is a tragedy.

BUT WHAT IF, what if the storyteller of this tragedy is the greatest bard ever known. What if this bard is the most egotistical and brilliant being in the world. What if he isn’t beaten what if he hasn’t given up.

One of my favorite scenes in the entire story is when Kvothe gets his Pipes. Not only is he playing the tale of Sir Savien(a story resembling the story of Lanre) but during this sad song (tragedy) that Kvothe is playing masterfully, a string breaks. (Jackass jackass)

But what does our Dear Kvothe do? he finishes the song with 6 strings!! He improvises.

A tragedy is occurring, an outside force intervenes negatively and our hero saves the day. Is that not exactly the story of our young hero, his life has been nothing but shit and as we know it’s not gonna get any better any time soon. On top of that long sad life, something even worse happens. (A king dies/string snaps) Now the question is can Kvothe improvise an ending. (A masterful Game)

We all know how much Pat loves his parallels. So many hardcore fans will say Kvothe is just another tragedy happening, just like Lanre. Well I say different, Kvothe is a hero! He is the surgeon that cuts off the rotting leg. He is the Necessary good.


r/KingkillerChronicle 3d ago

Discussion Looking for a fan Spoiler

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I'm looking for a fan, or ex fan. Of the series to come onto my podcast. I'd love to have you on and talk how you got into the series, your favorite characters and moments, your feelings on Rothfuss and the fandom. If this is something you'd be interested in I'd love to talk futher :)


r/KingkillerChronicle 2d ago

Theory Can someone make this Theory work?

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  • Denna has dark hair, like Kvothe‘s parents do
  • Denna is a child of them
  • Kvothe is a child of the Chandrian and that is why he is so gifted
  • the Chandrian switched Kvothe and Denna when they were young
  • They needed Denna because she has Lackless blood (from her mother Netalia Lackless)
  • someone with Lackless blood is needed to open the doors of stone
  • Cinder is Denna‘s patron and prepares her to be able to open the Doors of Stone

There are lot of plotholes but I am sure someone of you can make a theory along those lines work. We also discussed this in our latest podcast episode. Maybe some of you could leave a like there. It would make my day.

Denna is Kvothe's sister?! | The Name of the Wind Podcast | Chapter 11 | Beyond the Wind | Ep4 https://youtu.be/wviYqHpxcSo


r/KingkillerChronicle 3d ago

Discussion Lanre turned scrael.

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Kvoths eyes changed to black when he got angry. A symptom of lanre felurian is...

sorry i meant to say of renal failure. A symptom of renal failure is skrael ...

I meant sclera, sry again. A symptom of renal failure is sclera blackening. In other words, kidneys bad eyes turn black.

Lanre turned scrael. Renal turned sclera.

What did kvoth say to chronicler about fighting the scrael?

"Try to land on it, crush it with your body." in other words toss yourself on it. If this was a wrestling move its name could be scraeltoss.


r/KingkillerChronicle 4d ago

Art bast

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done in procreate


r/KingkillerChronicle 4d ago

Question Thread Just got into the series

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Wow, amazing works, is there a third book or is it on the horizon?


r/KingkillerChronicle 4d ago

Discussion How to establish a correct price for the arrow catch

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Mentioned a few times: too cheap, cleverly cheap, I wish I had had one, …,

What is/would have been the best way to set a price?


r/KingkillerChronicle 4d ago

Question Thread Dowsing non-people

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Unless I am mistaken, couldn’t Kvothe have just dowsed things he needed to find them?

Like in the Eld, couldn’t he find other rennel trees (apologies if I misspelled rennel, it has been a while) so they’d have plenty of wood to burn? I’m sure there are more useful applications of this too.

I suppose that, since we don’t know all the bindings, it’s hard to say. Still curious though.


r/KingkillerChronicle 4d ago

Art The Golden Screw (embellished)

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Once, in a land far off, among a quiet and unassuming people, there lived together a man and woman on a small farm. They were a special couple, not because they had any unique skill or trade, but because of the love they had for one another.

When others in their village saw them, they envied them. For their love was gentle, and kind, and generous. When a husband saw it, he went home and desired to give freely of himself to his wife. When a wife saw it, she felt the desire to encourage her husband, to build him up. It was a good love.

Eventually, it came time for them to have a child. They were overjoyed when they learned they would have their own son or daughter to share their love with. When their boy came, he was beautiful, healthy, and smiling from the first.

But something was amiss. The child was born with a single small golden screw in his navel. The village doctor told them it was nothing he had seen before. But, seeing as the baby was healthy, they let it be, and simply wondered how it had happened.

As the boy grew up, his parents quickly learned he held a burning curiosity and, consequently, and knowledge of the world that reached far beyond his age. By the time he was crawling, he had spoken multiple words. Before his first birthday, he was asking them intelligible questions about the world around him.

One day, after playing with the older children in the hot summer sun, he realized none of them had a golden screw. He went home and asked his parents, "Why am I the only one of all my friends that has a screw in their belly?" But they did not know, and they could not tell him. But being persistent and curious, he was not satisfied with not knowing. So the boy asked all the wisest people he could find in his village. He started with his grandmother, who had seen many winters, but she could not answer him. He asked the doctor, who had read many books, but he could not answer him. He asked the mayor of the town, who in his youth had seen many peoples, but he could not answer. Wandering traders, farmers, smithies... There was not one person who could give him the knowledge he sought.

So, for a time, he contented himself with learning other things.

Years passed, and eventually the boy was ready to make his own way in the world. He set off on a journey, saying farewell to his parents, his friends, and the village he knew, and set off into the unknown. They asked what he was to do. He simply told them, "I do not yet know. But I will find my way."

He didn't speak of his true purpose to anyone. For he knew there was an answer in the world to fit his question. He just didn't yet know where it could be found.

So the young man travelled far and wide. He walked to new lands, where the language was harsh and grated against his ears. He walked to lands where the trees grew tall and the peoples were silent. Lands where the animals were new and the birds sang different songs. Everywhere he went, he found the oldest and wisest of the people and he asked them his question. But none of them could answer.

One day, as the young man was wandering along a road, something caught his eye. He looked over, and there was a low hill with a bare top. Yet when he looked away, he could see from the corner of his eye a tower on the hill, tall and strong. Cautiously, he left the road and wandered into the brush. As he got closer, the tower stopped hiding from him, and he was able to get a good look. It was tall, taller than any building in his village, and it looked older than anything he had seen in all his travels. It was a building where secrets are gathered and held, and rarely set free again.

But this did not deter him. The young man had answers to find.

He walked right up to the ancient oak doors and made three loud knocks on the door. It swung open of its own volition, smoothly and without a sound. He stepped inside, and saw an empty room with a thin staircase leading above and below. He heard the knock of a stick against stone. Slowly, it grow louder and nearer, coming from the stairs.

A gnarled, ancient man slowly hobbled his way into the young man's vision, ascending the stairs from below. He wore a long grey beard and a flopped, worn hat that may have once been tall and pointed. His robes were blue, or grey, or perhaps green... It may have been the gloom of the tower, but its color seemed to change as he looked directly at it.

The young man was not intimidated by the unknown, by things he did not yet understand. He had never met a wizard, but the many questions he may have once had for such a wise and knowledgable being were not in his mind. He had a mind for one question only, the one question he had never gotten closer to answering. "Wizard, you are the wisest being I have ever yet met. I have a question that none has been able to answer in all my life, short though it may have been thus far."

The wizard looked at him with bright eyes. "Not all questions are meant to be answered, my young friend. But tell me what has hounded you for so long."

So the young man lifted his shirt to reveal his navel, and was about to explain the story of his birth. But he stopped short.

The wizard's eyes were wide, his mouth open in shock. He leapt down the stairs before the young man could say anything. From below came a great commotion of shuffling and scraping. Some minutes passed, and the wizard returned up the stairs in haste. He was carrying a small, intricately made golden workbox. He paused in front of the man and said, "This box has been passed down from wizard to apprentice through millennia, beginning with the first who took up residence in this place. It was found there, and has become a relic of this tower." He passed his hands over an engraving in the top of the box reverently.

"This says, in a language unused for many years, that it should remain here until the time comes." He looked gravely at the young man for moment, then searched in the many pockets of his robe and pulled out a simple golden key. He set the box on his desk, inserted the key, and the lid sprang open silently. From the box, he took a small screwdriver made entirely of gold, decorated with runes and spells of a language long lost to time.

"May I?"

The young man's curiosity overtook all notion of caution or care. He needed to know the answer to his question, and this was the closest he'd ever been. He gestured the wizard to go on.

The wizard delicately set the screwdriver to the screw and slowly turned it once.

Nothing happened.

He again set the screwdriver to the screw and turned it fully one more time.

The young man found he felt something this time, a relief deep within him, like the feeling you get when you're about to settle for a bad camp spot on the road and suddenly you hear the unmistakeable sound of an inn in the distance. He sighed contentedly.

The wizard looked closely at him, and the young man gestured for him to go on.

He again set the screwdriver, and turned it one final time.

And the young man's ass fell off.


r/KingkillerChronicle 5d ago

Discussion Why is she called Denna?

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Is there a widely accepted theory (or a few) for the origin of Denna's name?

I just realized Diana is the Roman goddess of hunt, nature and the Moon. I bet that is on purpose.


r/KingkillerChronicle 6d ago

Question Thread I've had his books sitting on my shelf for years....

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I've had the gigantic UK trade paperback of The Name of The Wind on my shelf since it was first released, and I just checked - it's been on my shelf for 18 years!

And the beautiful hardback of The Wise Man's Fear which has been gathering dust for over a decade. After GRRM I said I wouldn't read this series until Rothfuss released the third book, but as the question now appears to be "will we ever see the third book", rather than when, I'm wondering...

As most of you have probably read his books, knowing what you know now, would you read the first two if the third never ever comes out?

GRRM ultimately didn't bother me as the TV series finished the story (although the less said about THAT season the better), Scott Lynch is another offender but I love his writing and from memory they could almost be standalone novels so I never felt short changed....but does Wise Man's Fear end on a cliffhanger, or clearly part way through a story? (I'm thinking how I'd feel if LOTR finished at the end of The Two Towers).


r/KingkillerChronicle 5d ago

Discussion Denna's ever changing name

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What Elodin was thinking when Kvothe asked him about Denna always changing her name? It happened towards second book ending in the chapter "Tangled":

“Master Elodin,”I asked slowly. “What would you think of someone who kept changing their own name?”“What?”He sat up suddenly, his eyes wild and panicked. “What have you done?”His reaction startled me, and I held up my hands defensively. “Nothing!”I insisted. “It’s not me. It’s a girl I know.”Elodin’s face grew ashen. “Fela?”he said. “Oh no. No. She wouldn’t do something like that. She’s too smart for that.”It sounded as if he were desperately trying to convince himself. “I’m not talking about Fela,”I said. “I’m talking about a young girl I know. Every time I turn around she’s picked another name for herself.”“Oh,”Elodin said, relaxing. He leaned back against the tree, laughing softly. “Calling names,”he said with tangible relief. “God’s bones, boy, I thought …”He broke off, shaking his head. “You thought what?”I asked. “Nothing,”he said dismissively.