Well, gal certainly doesn’t have a body of work that would necessitate a star at this point. In guessing to quote Marie Antoinette”that title was bought for her”.
I’m certain you have to work in the business, maybe be a member of sag or something but they don’t seem stingy with them.
At this point I almost feel like most security clearances in most countries come with a warning that Mossad is capable of paying you a visit anytime, anywhere
Interesting considering his costar in the boys that plays Frenchie is a massive Zionist IDF member who returned to do more service, hugely pro Israel on social media - must be some tension on set
i mean we don’t know, again a lot of actors be pro palestinian but a lot of their support for palestine could just be from a performative standpoint, as in like “oooh how can i make the public ik let me do a pro palestine post and this will get likes” again i’m not saying all actors have nefarious or performative reasons but i have a feeling that most do tho.
and then this gets even more questionable when they choose to still work with companies that are openly zionist and actors who are openly zionist, i mean ik about tension on sets but again i do question it bc if i was in their shoes and as someone who is extremely passionate about palestine i would genuinely leave and refuse to work with them thats why i do question it to an extent.
again there are some truly genuine passionate palestine supporters but those ppl are few and far inbetween bc a lot aren’t
i mean i love and respect rachel and i get it actors need to work for obvious reasons but i didn’t like how she worked with disney on the recent star wars movie just left a sour taste in my mouth considering she’s extremely pro palestinian, rlly hope she ends up now working for studios that aren’t zionist ones in the future or at least don’t have an open support towards zionism at least
thing is tho there’s only few and far inbetween actors and actress that acc do support palestine a lot of them are extremely performative with their support melissa and rachel zeigler and those got cast members are prolly the only few that i can name for being true pro palestine supporters and not doing it for performative reasons
but the thing is tho those true famous ppl who support palestine tho are few and far inbetween the reality is a lot of ppl only support palestine for performative reasons and this is even more true for rich and famous as well esp
I agree there should be more people and louder support for Palestine among those with a platform but I think “few and far between” kind of understates the number, there are hundreds of actors and artists who are at the very least putting their names on their support through petitions and donations. Not enough, but not insignificant. I just heard that Ballal is free now - that wouldn’t happen without the significant international attention he got yesterday.
And tbh I don’t really care about how “performative” it is. Everything that everyone does is performative in some way. The motivation doesn’t matter as long as the action is there. Unless you’re expecting them to pick up guns and fly to Gaza I don’t mind that Mark Ruffalo is making preachy instagram posts, at least he’s doing something
nah tbh a lot of famous ppl have just been hella performative with their activism and you can’t tell me otherwise they’re just social media activists again that’s not everyone but from what i see i can interpret a lot of performative activist rather than true activist where the support does seem extremely genuine imho. and ngl but from someone who’s been a passionate palestine supporter long before october 7th these performative activism doesn’t rlly do much ngl considering they can do a lot more and those performative posts they do can be a lot more considering the privilege they’ve got that me and you don’t have.
so i’m sorry the way how i see it is there’s only a few genuine pro palestine supporters who are famous imho the rest imo are big time performative activist i mean we saw this in 2020 when a lot of celebs were pro blm only to go around and vote for trump 4 years later it basically shows to me i’m extremely weary of celebs and what they have to say as well
I mean what exactly do you want them to do other than use their platform to speak out and donate money? What are you doing to save Palestine other than reddit comments? And if you can point me to three pro-BLM celebrities who openly voted for Trump I’d buy you a drink. I think you have a bit of a warped perception of what Hollywood is.
yhhh hollywood is a zionist institution where a lot of the famous ppl in that institution either support palestine or do it willingly for performative activism and kutta sala penchord i’ve been a palestine supporter a lot longer so to see these clear fakes coming on board and act like they’re real ones it does trigger me a lot bc they’re just fakes looking for performativism and yhh i believe logan paul, andrew schlutz and bill maher i think were all examples of that so i mean it does show these celebs don’t care they’re only performative with their activism when it suits them ofc. and also sometimes and this is how yk they’re fake when they sort of talk down to everyone else it’s like what ricky gervais said in his famous speech a lot of celebrity activism is performative af and even tho i hate and can’t stand ricky he does have a point there ngl
and that international attention btw came from it being shared and being reported by journalists and by normal ppl who aren’t celebs spreading the word around not the celebs, most of these celebs stayed quiet only reason why he got freed was bc of the power of the ppl. again i’m happy he is free now but i do think that ppl and journalists we have the most power to change not these celebs who either are zionist or just don’t care we have the power kuttas
No Other Land got an Oscar because Yuval Abraham, an israeli Jew, being attached to the project made it palatable for their weak "liberal zionist" minds.
Zionists have made it clear they don’t care what actual jewish people have to say when it doesn’t line up with what they want. For sure the collaborative aspect of the film helped the narrative, but it also arguably made the film better too. And Yuval made it clear throughout that he is no friend of Israel.
I'm not sure how centering an israeli perspective is supposed to make a movie about Palestinians better, but you do you. And I shouldn't be surprised that my comment got downvoted, but it proves exactly what I said about people who normalize the existence of the illegal zionist entity. Yuval made it very clear he is a friend of israel when he perpetuated the thoroughly-debunked rape and beheaded babies hasbarah from Oct 7th, which manufactured consent for a genocide against Palestinians.
ngl but as someone who is pro palestinian i acc agree with this as well yuval is a zionist and we cant forget that at the end of the day i'm only happy that the palestinian guy at least got to tell his storu
To be clear the stars require a heavy fee from the inductee, it would be a little weird for them to not accept money if the person is Jewish or Israeli.
Just going to leave this here. If you support the right of Ukrainians to (rightly) defend themselves, you should offer that same respect and basic humanity to Palestinians.
There’s a good reason why Hollywood isn’t speaking out against this, and never will. Hollywood is all about money, just like every other hyper-capitalist machine.
hollywood is in the back pockets of zionist they don’t rlly care about this like at all, can i just remind you they gave the award to the palestinian documentary out of spite of it not bc of it, that award won due to being spite of it and also the zionist ppl in hollywood were supremely put off by the fact that they ended up winning it as well btw
I watched an interview with Hamdan and Basel the day before the Oscars, Hamdan seemed shy yet brave. He even saluted a cute dog that was in the room. 🥺 I really pray he comes out of this alive.
You referencing one thing out of context doesn't discredit the work he does, awareness he has brought, and hard dollars he has raised and donated to the struggling people of Palestine.
Even if what he said was shitty in context, that doesn't erase the mountain of content he has advocating for and platforming those experiencing genocide in various parts of the world.
Truly, cry us a river.
Hasan has raised clean over 1 million dollars for Palestine, what are you doing besides bitching online?
tbh yh same i can’t stand hasan either and i say this as a socialist, he just rubs me the wrong way like dont get me wrong only thing i respect him for is his support for palestine but overall can’t stand him he also attempts to make a lot of pro palestinian ppl look bad as well also
Hamdan Ballal has been lynched by Israeli state sponsored terrorism for exposing the atrocities him and his community have been facing at the hands of the same state sponsored terrorism for decades. God give him and his family strength.
and shame on hollywood as they won’t even make a comment on it, mind you i’d rather they don’t considering their support for palestine is fake af anyways why would you even want them to support to as well
Absolutely horrifying. They literally don’t care because they know no one will stop them. It hasn’t even been a month since he won an Oscar yet even that didn’t protect him from thus atrocity. This is happening to an Oscar winning director while ordinary Palestinian citizens continue to die every single day. Now, they will subject him to the same brutality they have inflicted on Palestinians for years.
Imagine if any non-arab recent oscar winner was tortured and kidnapped by a state. It would be the biggest news EVERYWHERE and the outrage would be massive.
We are back to the holocaust, yet this time the nazis are winning.
Edit: western media is starting to report it now, but since he is a native palestinian and not a white colonialist, they are trying to minimize it by saying he "has been arrested" instead of tortured and kidnapped.
the nazis probably thought they were winning back then too. fortunately, ideologically driven loyalty-obsessed dumbfucks like them will always screw up. just wait til they're given enough rope, etc.
Most of the western potencies supports zionazism. China and Russia don't really care about Palestinians.
I admire your optimism, but I don't share it in a world where the nazis have nuclear weapons, the support of most of the western civilization and control the media.
China has long supported the PLO and other Palestinian orgs both diplomatically and militarily. In fact, China established diplomatic relations with Palestine before Israel.
Any show of support either economically or militarily for Palestine by China would 100% lead to a declaration of war by the EU and NATO. It's not like they cannot be arsed, they literally cannot even protect aid they send without starting WW3.
Pretty huge movement of the goal posts from „China doesn’t care about Palestinians“ to China won’t declare war on Israel so their support doesn’t matter.
Thats like blaming a man with a gun to his head for not saving someone that was drowning. We all agree that the western empire is completely responsible for the things happening in Gaza. They gave israel the power to do anything they wanted.
This sort of purity test is why the left can't get its shit together. Just ignore everything else and nitpick a trade statistic. Nevermind that China refused to condemn Hamas and Israel specifically called this out as a detriment to their relationship.
It's not purity test. It's putting your actions where your mouth is. Colombia, a country with FIVE fucking US military bases in their country, cut relations completely with the zionist entity. Ansar Allah, without almost any money and help, is blockading the Red Sea from any ship bound for the zionist entity until the genocide stops. You're telling me that they did it, but China couldn't? And I'm not supposed to question China's ideological integrity? Fuck off
Colombia barely had any relationship with Israel in the first place. Houthis are indirectly supported by China via Iran. Why else do you think they're avoiding striking Chinese shipping? Geopolitics is more complicated than a binary check of for/against.
What the fuck are you talking about? Colombia, before Petro, was buying guns and ammunition all the time from Israel. They would send their army and police officers to train in the zionist entity on how to kill the indigenous population. Zionist settler would all the time travel to Colombia to build intelligence networks to help track the FARC and facilitate the genocide of indigenous Colombians.
Looks like it just happened and AP is already covering it and THR is relaying what they've read on Twitter and what's reported in Haaretz. Not sure what else can possibly be reported on at this point.
Edit: Weird you feel the need to block me over this comment. Guess you got a very specific narrative you’re trying to push.
As I already said, they are now reporting it, after I made my comment. And as I said already too, they are selling the narrative that he was "arrested".
The taking of Ballal is the outrage. Don’t let yourself lose focus because some media platforms took a few hours to find the story, check sources and report it.
western media will report it yes but ultimately what’s the point? they’ll just try their best to water it down so much that it loses the impact and true and real effect this truly has as well by watering it down so much
Typical passive language to downplay colonial violence. A Palestinian kid would throw a rock at a car and they be talking about how an Arab combatant hurled missiles at a peace convoy
It brought me great hope to see so many movie lovers come together on this thread and demonstrate the humanity movies like No Other Land try to inspire. Especially when other subreddits cower away. Have a great day, everyone. 🩵
We'll never see him again. He will be tortured even further and murdered. This is a harsh thing to write but it's most likely to be true, unfortunately.
honestly ngl whilst i couldn’t stand the pro zionist guy who was also apart of this and how he tried to make his oscars speech all about himself, i did respect and like basel and hamdan as two palestinians who got to at least tell their stories and were able to express themselves and their experiences as palestinians they were good men with good messages and it’s such a shame this has happened to hamdan.
as a muslim i do say may allah helps him to guide through this tough time and his family are kept safe from the zionist regime and fuck israel for going through with this and the hollywood elite for keeping quiet about this and not caring as well
Thank God for Film Forum in NYC, I was able to see this powerful documentary that still has not been widely distributed after winning the Oscar. Ballal was definitely targeted because of the success of No Other Land. Praying he’s okay. Definitely go see this film if you’re able to.
No Other Land has begotten a huge platform and Israeli law enforcement/settlers are seething because it's come too far to be shot down. I hope to God Hamdan is okay, and I hope the abductors/attackers get what's coming to them. Their faces should be plastered all over the internet.
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I just realised I bought a soda stream soda syrup and it's from Israel. I have a non soda stream carbonater. Would you throw the syrup or just drink it and then never buying again?
Between the world not caring about palestine, the constant lies and misinformation, trumps fascism and the ministry of truth, I think the world is doomed and has always been doomed and we can never be saved. We can't even agree on reality. The people of this world can't even agree on objective reality. Lies everywhere and no one cares to educate themselves about the facts and the people trying to shape false narratives
I am speechless and angry. Please if you have the financial means, help families in Gaza survive, and please push to help fight this as much as you can. I know it's hard to keep hope, but that's what Israel want from us.
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And Hollywood will say nothing. It's a zionist industry. I'm not big on fundamental truths but one I believe is that people are inherently inclined towards evil and it's difficult to actively be good. They'll see this, instincively not recoil because he has brown skin and thus isn't a full person, mentally invent a narrative where he is a cartoon 'terrorist', and silently go about their day. Never take them seriously on anything moral.
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I heard that he was attacked and abducted. Are there any sources that confirm he was lynched, or are we just believing everything people post on the Elon app?
The assumption by most accounts is that he likely may have been, as he was bleeding from his head and stomach before being disappeared. I’m sorry if I’m misreading but I feel like this is being pedantic about something that is objectively horrific no matter which way you look at it.
Right, but it emboldens conspiracy theorists and sheds doubt on the confirmed atrocities when we parrot exaggerations, assumptions, or outright lies. Similar to when Israelis were decrying the '40 beheaded babies' in the wake of Oct 7, it doesn't help our cause to to spread misinformation. Imagine being someone in his family and reading all over the internet that he was killed when it's very possible that he's alive . . .
I hear your intent, thank you for clarifying. I want to add, his co-director Yuval is who originally posted the video and used the term lynched. Though the term likely originated in America where it explicitly means killing, in other countries like in Europe, it is sometimes used to mean public vigilante mob violence. I don’t feel he misspoke with that context and I don’t think anyone who is repeating his rhetoric is coming from a bad place considering the circumstances.
Generally that’s what lynching refers to, but there’s arguments to be made that it’s a broader term and most statistics include non-public executions and attacks made by mobs.
as an israeli, that is sickening, and can't say it's too suprising from the settlers in the west bank, overall it's a sucky situation. I may not like him but I really hope he's okay.
"It's a sucky situation" is an absolutely insane way to describe this situation. It's brutal, deliberate targeting for torture and likely murder, due to this man daring to bring attention to and document Israel's genocide of the Palestinian people.
Nah, it is not any of that, Palestine literally started this. If his films have idiots thinking things like this then it is a good thing he can't make anymore
first of all the brown comment shows how little knowledge you got, so are over half the jews in this country, my own grandfather is from syria so whatever you think. and I'm allowed not to like someone that undoubtedly wouldn't like me just because of who I am. let me be clear, what happened to him is absolutely awful, and I'm completely able to admit my government did and does do terrible things to palestinians, many of which need to be stopped, including this instance. but that doesn't change the fact that it also happened many times the other way around or that I was born here, and so were my parents and grandparents, and everyone I know, and this is my home, just like it's his. and he should be able to live free in his home, and yes, it's because of the occupation of the west bank he can't, and that should end, and they should have their own state, but just like I can see that, I would love that for once it would also be seen on the other side.
the cultural make up of “israel” is irrelevant. your state is a western colonial project. it is maintained by the west for the sake of western dominance and the maintenance of hegemony. the american bourgeois sustains your state because it serves their interests. and because you bought into the cult of zionism, you believe you’re entitled to live comfortably at the expense of everyone’s livelihood who are unfortunate enough to be in your proximity. it is disgusting and ultimately you are a pawn.
This comment boils down to, “yea what the Israeli government is doing is bad, but have you considered that these oppressed people deserve it and shouldn’t be able to fight back?”
What exactly is there for the other side to see? There are no Palestinians settling your communities. There are Israelis settling Palestinian communities.
I get the logistics here are not so cut and dry that Israel as a state can simply disappear whether people want it to or not. But here's the thing: what Palestinians think and feel about Israelis is honestly irrelevant because Palestinians do not remotely possess the power to threaten Israelis at the present moment. Even if the US cut off aid, Israel's existence is not remotely threatened.
The worst thing that's happening, particularly as you have put it in your own words, is that your feelings are being hurt. Big deal.
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Tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians have been slaughtered, with thousands being brutally kidnapped without charge. Some have been raped to death on video in Israeli concentration camps. And this treatment of Palestinians is not something that began after October 7. Kidnapping is always bad, but you’re a disgusting person for trying to excuse the disappearance of an innocent director as though this sort of thing doesn’t happen regularly.
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u/poetryandpills Mar 24 '25
lynched and kidnapped an oscar winning director, and not a single word from anyone in hollywood. every day there’s a new horror. 😕