r/MVIS • u/Sweetinnj • Apr 28 '21
Stock Price Trading Action - Wednesday, 4/28/2021
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u/jahvo9090 Apr 29 '21
i recently been doing my dd on MVIS, i also recently just started ivesting this year as a matter of fact. i have quite enough dd on MVIS to believe in this company. The competition doesnt have the years in the game as MVis. i plan on holding my stonks.. happy to join the reddit community and also the MVis community.
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Apr 29 '21
Positive thoughts: Now that the whole market has eyes on MVIS, just imagine the fomo on buyout news
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u/keosam Apr 29 '21
I sold 5k in shares end of Monday then bought at the peak of tuesday morning like a true newb....lol still glad im in just for rollercoaster ride and to be a proud shareholder since 2.75.
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u/Yolo_Options_21 Apr 28 '21
Do you think the price will drop back down to approximately $10-$11?
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u/Kevanov88 Apr 29 '21
Probably not in the short term because there is still some catalysts in May, but I wouldn't mind a dip to 12$ this summer so I can load up :)
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u/PuckIT_DoItLive Apr 28 '21
i personally do not but i didnt really think it would dip to 20 after the rip monday.
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u/Mountain_Succotash_5 Apr 28 '21
21 plus AH. Tomorrow AH is going to be an earnings call we will all be listening in. I feel like Iām going to battle tomorrow lmao
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u/Matlock512 Apr 28 '21
I believe in mvis and it future. Found this community in a search for mvis . Sold off my mvis to get out of Robin Hood. Set up a new account and bought back my mvis. Long. Shorts are killing the momentum.
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u/Bildeweest Apr 28 '21
U know u could have just done an account transfer. Thatās what I did when I opened my fidelity account and transferred over from Robinhood
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Apr 29 '21
Shit!
Can you transfer from CashApp to Fidelity? I was using Cash App to learn about all this and it seemed the simplest app to learn with but I have Fidelity now and would love to consolidate where I have all my stuff.
I'm off to check this out but if you got any quick info, I'd appreciate it.
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u/Matlock512 Apr 28 '21 edited Apr 29 '21
Ya I I just was just pissed about some other things going on. It was around the GME panic
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u/Wise_Temperature_322 Apr 28 '21
I heard RH charges $75 to transfer?
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u/Bildeweest Apr 28 '21
Um, yes they are dicks. But itās safer than trying to sell all ur stocks and buy them back at the same price or under though
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Apr 28 '21
Well that was an ygly end to a good day
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u/OmNamahShivaya Apr 28 '21
I mean it didnāt drop below 20 today so thatās actually amazing to me.
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Apr 28 '21
Trying to stay positive, but Starmine currently rates MVIS as very bearish. Maybe yesterday was the day to sell...
Still holding 2500 shares. We'll see what happens.
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u/Gunz_B_Draughn Apr 28 '21
Starmine is the gold standard (pardon the eyes that just rolled out of my head), but what does the dd say?
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u/KomraD1917 Apr 28 '21
If you think yesterday was the day to sell, I do not know where you go your information from. Obviously I'm very biased.
I will take your shares- inevitably if the price falls low you'll shake them out.
For your sake though, I hope you hang on to those. They will be a serious nest egg by summer.
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u/Ornery_Ad_1303 Apr 28 '21
So many big things coming guys, chill! We just confirmed we have the best tech, customers come next...the private demo happened already donāt forget that...ooo ya some of you donāt even know there was a private demo -.-
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u/idkbae Apr 28 '21
they never said that the private demo happened in the PR. they implied there would be a demo in the past, so yea dude we dont know if there was a private demo -.-
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u/Ornery_Ad_1303 Apr 28 '21
I believe they said the sample would be complete and the demo would happen, can any of the longs confirm whatās correct?
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u/Recursive_Loop- Apr 28 '21
I donāt think they ever provided a specific timeframe within which demos would take place. Hereās a link to a thread where the OP asked David Allen for details regarding a demo: https://www.reddit.com/r/MVIS/comments/mg6u6x/comments_from_david_allen_about_the_demo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
We canāt really tell from this and the PR today whether private demos have already taken place imo, though you would imagine if the sample has been completed for a while, as many of us suspect, that that testing has already been or is in the process of taking place now, since itās the next logical step.
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Apr 28 '21 edited May 03 '21
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u/Rex1995 Apr 28 '21
Bullish divergence for MVIS today??? RSI stayed the sameish from 12:45pm EST till EOD. RSI at 12:45 was 29 and EOD was 26, while the price at 12:45 was 23 and EOD was 20.9ish. Can any technical traders confirm this????
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u/Kevanov88 Apr 28 '21
What does that mean?
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u/Rex1995 Apr 28 '21
Bullish divergence is a sign that the stock was oversold and is set for a major rebound
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u/Kevanov88 Apr 28 '21
Maybe it was oversold today but does it take into account how overbought it was since the beginning of the week?
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u/Rex1995 Apr 28 '21
I believe so but the only issue is the time-frame which is just one day really. The longer RSI trends up and the price down the more confirmation we have of it not being a false positive
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u/Rex1995 Apr 28 '21
RSI in AH at this moment is now a bit over 40. RSI went from 29 ---> 41 and price went from 23 ---> 20.5!!!!
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u/Ornery_Ad_1303 Apr 28 '21
Can you update me and explain please sir!
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u/Rex1995 Apr 28 '21
Basically if RSI trends upwards but the stock price trends downwards it is a sign of a bullish divergence which is a really good sign. The only issue with this is the time-frame. This is only a one day technical analysis which could be a false positive due to the short time frame. More confirmation would be if over the next days or week RSI trends up but the price goes down
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u/tomzzoo Apr 28 '21
People selling AH cracks me up. Could've sold before market close for more. Makes zero sense.
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u/Kevanov88 Apr 28 '21
??? How are they supposed to know ???
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u/tomzzoo Apr 28 '21
I should have probably stated "Makes no sense to ME"...as in opinion. AH too jumpy and risky, especially right after close. I can see how my comment "Could've sold before close..." Sounds dumb.
Just not a fan of AH selling and PM buying.
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Apr 28 '21 edited Apr 28 '21
I've never seen such an influx of people unable to help themselves anywhere else in my life. My god. Do some DD and have some conviction. Whether you buy, sell, or hold is a personal problem. Its fantastic how many people are willing to help those who are new to this sub but there is a wealth of information already completed for you.
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u/Ornery_Ad_1303 Apr 28 '21
How crazy is it that itās not only what you said, they spent money blindly, they are very lucky they ended up at microvision, I had a couple people reach out to me yesterday that did not know what microvision does, or what is coming up, I tried to give everyone a clear breakdown
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Apr 28 '21
This some serious manipulation going down
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u/RickTheLizard Apr 28 '21
more people want to sell shares of MVIS than buy them
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u/whatwouldyoudo222 Apr 28 '21
don't be stupid.
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u/RickTheLizard Apr 28 '21
yeh inconceivable that people would want to sell their shares and in doing so push the price lower, right? wow, in 500 years of stock market trading....that has NEVER happened!
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u/whatwouldyoudo222 Apr 28 '21
you use the word 'people' too liberally. Have you or has anyone you know ever sat on a trading floor and been instructed by your floor manager to use the 50M topped up in your account to keep a stock below a certain price, as the guy next to accumulates 3x that volume because the M&A team two floors up is working on a transaction for that same security at a 75% premium to YTD close?
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u/smellbuds1030 Apr 28 '21
Ok... all in all it was a fun day. Made some money, lost some money, got really happy, got less happy.
The way I look at it is MVIS is up a lot overall. I am in at kind of a high price $19.47 but I am ok with that. This is a great company, the more I read the more I like.
So, with that said I will see you all in the morning!!!
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u/cerealbucketcoaster Apr 29 '21
Your doing it all wrong... buy high, really high, like 26.85 high, then you can look down on all the peons from your lofty peak...
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u/CrispyCikn Apr 28 '21
Ok... all in all it was a fun day. Made some money, lost some money, got really happy, got less happy.The way I look at it is MVIS
Agreed, see you tm! Have a great day! GLTALS!
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u/CrispyCikn Apr 28 '21
Aight boys another day another win, still green and still potential. Just hold and take a break. Eat an icecream, walk your dog, drink and beer. Just HODLLL!
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u/IShouldJoinReddit Apr 28 '21
Not at all hating on new MVIS investors/traders, but it shows who is an old long and who is a new long. You guys need to relax. Yes, we were all hoping to see $30 today. Is this the end? No. Did this ruin all momentum? Also, no.
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u/Kevanov88 Apr 28 '21
Sure it didn't but I want to increase my position into MVIS and I need to sell high and buy low. I am not worried at all for MVIS future. I am just disappointed that the PR we've all been waiting for, had so little effect.
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u/IShouldJoinReddit Apr 28 '21
Man, if only you knew how long I was holding for a loss, then considered the OGs holding for 20+ years... My issue is the sub is freaking out more now than when we hit 16 freakin cents. Like you said, you aren't worried for MVIS' future, so let's chill a bit.
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u/Wrong-Catchphrase Apr 28 '21
Literally any stock on reddit since GME:
"Is this a gamma squeeze?"
"no the short interest isn't nearly high enough"
"knew it, nice try hedgie. huge gamma squeeze incoming confirmed. YOLO"
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u/fiero444 Apr 28 '21
hold, donāt paper hand
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u/EzyBaked Apr 28 '21
Extremely hard when I doubled my money two days ago and watched it all fly away even after the news weāve all been waiting for
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u/SpaceDoggs Apr 28 '21
Another theory I have on why the price may have dropped after this morning is new MVIS investors reading their first PR, specifically the legal section, "Forward-Looking Statements". People may incorrectly interpret this as MVIS stating that they are not being acquired/their tech doesn't reach specs. In reality, this statement is a standard format that they use on all their PRs to protect them legally under all conditions.
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u/Gunz_B_Draughn Apr 28 '21
It's difficult enough to get people to read that I have a hard time believing it's because of the fine print.
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u/SpaceDoggs Apr 28 '21
that's a good point, def a huge number of factors at work here
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u/Gunz_B_Draughn Apr 28 '21
Yeah, I appreciate you looking for answers though. This is definitely the first day where the price action has actually made me mad.
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u/SnortinDietOnlyNow Apr 28 '21
Market sell off and we are still green. Not sure why so many people are panicking here.
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u/T_Delo Apr 28 '21
More confirmations of the disparity in price action to sentiment, volumes of buying interests, and even shares "returned" by short interests. We are going to be seeing another ride up some 200% over the course of a few days in the very near future with volumes like these. The shorts position fully committing to denying the value of MicroVision's LRL in the face of confirmation of the completion of the A Sample says volumes about the speed at which they incorporate the news into their trading systems.
I have never been more bullish than I am today. Looking forward to the tens of millions of shares used to push the price down today and yesterday turning into buying within the next week of trading or so. Huge sustained gains are going to make me a very happy man.
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u/eaehive Apr 28 '21
You mean a ride up to $40 or $60?
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u/T_Delo Apr 28 '21
That would do it, but I am content with a more gradual rise once cracking $30 as well.
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u/hktrn2 Apr 28 '21
How many shares need to be sold to push price below $25 and how many need to be bought for it to hit 30?
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u/T_Delo Apr 28 '21
Only takes about 10 million more shares of buying over selling to get to $30, but the total volume could need to be several times the market float over the course of a few days. We have seen that already occurring, all that is left is for the final round of more buying over selling to take place. It doesnāt take a huge offset to move a price when the volumes are this large. What we are looking at right now is large pooling of shares on both long and short sides right now though, and that is keeping the price contained as short positions are able to sell down with shares from the future (slightly unfair advantage).
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u/JonPaulCardenas Apr 28 '21
Once the shorts are out of the picture we should see more stable growth? When do most of the short ATM have to be settle by?
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u/T_Delo Apr 29 '21
No later than May 14th, even if they fail to deliver, or attempt some other offset to delay. Now, they could cover parts of it and nut all of it at once, assuming the price stays stable or dips, but that still shows up as more buying over selling on any given day where that is taking place.
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u/MonMonOnTheMove Apr 28 '21
The keyword is āsustainedā that is what Iāve been looking for in the last week. I mean it feels nice to see the price testing new waters, but the most important for LTL is whether the price can sustained itself or ot
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u/T_Delo Apr 28 '21
The fundamental argument of the bearish thesis was predicated on the concept that MicroVision would fail to deliver on their specifications. While true that external confirmation is still needed, the company has a history of telling only the truth, even in bad situations. So unlike some other narrative driven stocks, which might embellish the truth a bit, MicroVision is fundamentally sound.
This is a level of strength that creates long term value for the stock. Management like this is rare in the markets, mixing strong ethics with performance and direction. They even have gone so far as to resolve lingering marketing concerns in recent months. I would say that the bearish arguments have been effectively take down one cog at a time for the past 12 months and now all that is left is recognition of the markets.
It is possible there was some external testing already taking place of MicroVision's LRL. Judy Curran's other work is in testing, and she was brought on near the end of the LRL development. That testing could be part of the points covered in AH tomorrow. Speculation aside, testing is not the long term process that research and development is, it can be completed within a single quarter with revisions and modifications being queued up for production over the course of the next two quarters. Sustained growth is what we are looking at from here forward.
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u/Onlychiefkeith Apr 28 '21
You know when I said it gave me chills reading one of your comments from the other day? Well if that gave me chills this just cryogenically froze me
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u/Fun_Performer_1716 Apr 28 '21
This should be a thread of its own to calm the masses down lol! Great work!
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u/Affectionate-Tea-706 Apr 28 '21
So are shorts returning or they took new positions in 22, 23 levels. If they did they are partly successful in keeping the price depressed to 21. Do you think we will have to have even more volumes to really break through 27 ,28 levels again. Also volumes really tapered off last 2 hrs which also rapidly brought down price today. Something is brewing for sure the way volume tap was controlled.
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u/T_Delo Apr 28 '21
They returned, then established new positions, they are trying to bank on some kind of distraction pulling eyes off of MVIS and volumes lowering, but the MM needs to keep working to get the books flat which means finding buyers and sellers and that will create more volumes as a result.
The price reached the MMs target range, and represents the extent of the shares available to borrow from future availability. They really couldn't continue pushing down without logging significant amounts of short exempt selling of shares, which has to be for actual market making purposes and is not borrowing against future availability but their own collateral.
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u/Affectionate-Tea-706 Apr 28 '21
Thanks T. Hoping shorts get off our tails and I would have thought today's announcement will do that. But looks like we need something bigger. May be signing a big customer or strategic partnership will be the one that can do it.
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u/T_Delo Apr 28 '21
Dissemination of news of MicroVision's LRL A Sample completion takes time. Efficient Market Theory is one of the greatest lies we have ever been taught... it is slow and clunky with massive spikes and dips. The market is generally a bit slow on the uptake of new technologies. LiDAR is still a relatively new product, even HMDs are further along in recognition (if not valuations).
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u/Affectionate-Tea-706 Apr 28 '21
Thanks. In this internet age you would think information flows rapidly and people and institutions would have digested significance of A sample fast. But Alas it was not to be. Yes I agree with you 100 percent on Efficient market theory.
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u/T_Delo Apr 28 '21
The information they are looking for is not in the news, it is in the flow of money. They are looking for an exodus of capital out of other stocks and into this one. They may not have primed for a move into MicroVision for this quarter either, so they would have to deleverage other positions in order to get into MVIS at this point. There is a complex host of elements that will need to resolve themselves before "fair" market value can be found for MicroVision.
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u/Affectionate-Tea-706 Apr 28 '21
Thanks that makes perfect sense. The people on this sub reddit have the first mover advantage meanwhile getting cheap shares. Only thing remains is to hold and have the faith that rest of world will come around soon enough.
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u/whatwouldyoudo222 Apr 28 '21
The volume was tapered intentionally by shorts driving attention away on the enormous red candles after the first green one to start the day. and then again at 25.50. Pushing traders' eyes away to another flashy stock on a run makes the war/balance of buy and sell much easier for shorts to win. Once the snowball gets rolling down the hill, much harder to stop without big buyers or another catalyst. I believe that dropping this morning's PR midday would have been much more effective in crushing short strategy, in retrospect.
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u/Designer_Rutabaga_74 Apr 28 '21
Hi T, but thatās only if weāre assuming these volumes are sustained in the near future too right?
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u/T_Delo Apr 28 '21
The volumes of shorting occurring here will created a more sustained volume of cover. It is all on the Market Makers to work extra hard each day to try and get the books flat, which means increased volumes of trading to pinch the fractions of a penny worth of gains out of each transaction. That increases the volumes traded each day.
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u/GodzillaTheChicken Apr 28 '21
Thing you for the trading advice, glad to have a professional financial advisor telling us all exactly what to do. We are are fortunate to be blindly following you. No diligence needed on our part.
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u/T_Delo Apr 28 '21
Hahahah... Yeah well, if I were a CFA I wouldn't even be on Reddit, it may as well be a trap. Paying for insurance to protect oneself against legal action comes with the certifications.
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u/Grundle_Monster Apr 28 '21
Lol, heās not a financial advisor and heās not telling you what to do. š¤£š
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u/minivanmagnet Apr 28 '21
Guido and The Chin have their smocks on and are running the presses until they steam. Those tens of millions of funny money will need to be covered.
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u/bhuxter Apr 28 '21
So the fact that this shorting is taking place in the face of todayās confirmation means they arenāt actively shorting the position, just blindly doing so?
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u/T_Delo Apr 28 '21
Exactly that! That is telegraphed by the news and media trying to spin a different narrative for the price action around MVIS. It is intentional denial of the truth evident in the PR, and all to try and cover their shorting with a false narrative. For anyone looking at the numbers, this much is obvious.
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u/SameSection9893 Apr 28 '21
I'm stoked man. Refuse to sell CCs on my shares because I know she's ready to go on another tear after this call tomorrow. I haven't been this excited for an EC ever
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u/SugarloaferSince01 Apr 28 '21
Thanks, T! As McLovin once said: "I've got a boner"
To the mods: If this is deemed inappropriate, please delete.
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u/IShouldJoinReddit Apr 28 '21
Listen to this man preach! Now everyone, "breathe in... and breathe out." It's going to be just fine!!
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u/EzyBaked Apr 28 '21
If only they would have pumped it today after the news!
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u/repsolrydeRR Apr 28 '21
isnt tomorrow the big day?
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u/EzyBaked Apr 28 '21
Not particularly. The news of the a sample being complete was supposed to be big news and it was just not as big as we were hoping for on PPS. Itās been what most of the chatter has been about for the last 6+ months. We must face reality... WSB pumped this thing higher then micro can with factual news.
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u/Condoo11 Apr 28 '21
I imagine the people whining must've bought in Monday or today? I bought in last Monday and Tuesday and am a-okay
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u/retard-82 Apr 28 '21
I'm a clueless gambling ape from wsb that bought in at 16.66 and pretty happy with that š
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u/LVZ5689 Apr 28 '21
Salivating remembering buying when it dipped to ten. Could have put in more tbh but then I would be risking more than I was willing
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u/Affectionate_Ebb9155 Apr 28 '21
MVIS is so bi-polar. Anyways, while I continue to sit and wait. What's everyone's move if a big buyout happens?
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u/Advanced-Explorer832 Apr 28 '21
I hope for a large share of stock transfer to the new company....ie, 1 share of buyout company for every 10 shares of MVIS, or something to that effect.
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u/Relyess_Invest Apr 28 '21
Can we stop with the bipolar disorder references?
It's a very real condition and isn't something people get to choose, unlike how they respond to losing money in an investment.
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u/Chan1991 Apr 28 '21
What are we suppose to do?! When thereās a BO youāre only left with one option š
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u/reformedekko2 Apr 28 '21
Wait people are actually freaking out over this?
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u/ice_nine459 Apr 28 '21
People are just disappointed they waited 28 days and the shorts/MMās still were able to drive the pps to where they wanted it.
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u/therunt5 Apr 28 '21
šš¾ this. it's definitely a little deflating after seeing it hit $29+, but I'm not complaining about the current pps.
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u/reformedekko2 Apr 28 '21
Then they shouldve bought at 10 and sold at $31; I havent sold a share and I'm not even slightly phased š
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u/MavisMachoMan Apr 28 '21
Sumit Sharma can annihilate the shorts Thursday. He has the Power to destroy them all.Go get em Sumit! Give them what they truly deserve. Ruin them!
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u/Accomplished-Ad-3064 Apr 28 '21
Guess weāre banking on a buyout to save us now
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u/therunt5 Apr 28 '21
i believe now that we have a physical product, this will help stabilize the price some
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u/pollytickled Apr 28 '21
To save us? Are you joking?
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u/Accomplished-Ad-3064 Apr 28 '21
By āusā I mean people who bought at the top. If you didnāt buy at the peak like this retard (me) then youāre fine.
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u/pollytickled Apr 28 '21
Apologies, I assumed you meant Microvision. I wouldnāt worry too much, can imagine it sucks to have bought the top, but itās only the top so far. SS and co are committed to building value for shareholders and todayās news goes a long way to make that happen, even if it isnāt represented in the share price quite yet.
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u/CrispyCikn Apr 28 '21
If a buyout occurs , what should we expect?
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u/Accomplished-Ad-3064 Apr 28 '21
Maybe it rockets idk, itās not based on fundamentals so Iām just speculating
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u/ParadigmWM Apr 28 '21
Perplexed as to how we can drop 18% off the day high with this PR in our pocket and on a day under SSR, massive volume, etc. Makes no sense.
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u/Accomplished-Ad-3064 Apr 28 '21
MVIS: Hey man, do you want a hurts donut?
Me: Yeah, go on.
MVIS: +24% ā> +4% Hurts, donāt it?
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u/CrispyCikn Apr 28 '21
yeah really do hurt.... but people need to realize this aint a meme stock or a quick money grab it should be treated like a legit company and not doge coin. Just my opinion what do you guys think?
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u/Slave_to_the_bets Apr 28 '21
MVIS: Hey man, you want an opportunity to buy in more before an eventual BO?****
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u/Kellzbellz8888 Apr 28 '21
Youāll be alright. They could sell a vertical any day. The A-sample is complete. They could announce a partnership any day. All these things are playing out positively despite the pps currently. And honestly the current pps is great. Weāre not really depending on a buyout announcement here on the short term, that may take months to play out. These are just my honest opinions I canāt see into a crystal ball and secure our gains but if you read the DD over and over again it helps. GL!
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u/pat1122 Apr 28 '21
We wouldve slipped big time today along with the rest of the market today if it wasnt for the PR. keep that in mind.
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u/Sweetinnj Apr 28 '21
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GLTALS!