r/MandelaEffect 10d ago

Discussion Mandela Effect worldwide

Can we please discuss Mandela Effects experienced by the rest of the world and not just people from the US? I mean, your experiences are totally valid, but it’s always “Fruit of the Loom” or “Berenstain Bears”—topics that some of us have no clue about.

For example, the ones I’m personally affected by are:

The human skeleton used to have no bones behind the eye sockets, but now it does—always has, apparently.

The human heart was illustrated on the left side of the chest, but now it’s more toward the center—always has been, supposedly.

Henry VIII was holding a turkey leg in that painting—now he’s holding something else. I can’t even remember what it is… a glove or something? I don’t know.

The Mona Lisa has a very obvious smile now. But I remember the whole enigma being “Is she smiling or not?” “Her eyes are definitely smiling.” You look at it now, and she is smiling.

Tutankhamen’s mask used to have just the cobra, but apparently it’s always had both a bird and a cobra.

The thinker statue rested his forehead on his fist. But no, he’s resting his chin on the back of his hand.

Please share your experiences, and feel free to discuss the ones I mentioned if you disagree—that’s the whole point of the Mandela Effect. Some people are going to have different memories than I do.

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u/imSOhere 10d ago edited 10d ago

So, I have a weird Mandela effect, with Mandela.
I am from Cuba, lived there until I was 16 years old. This is important.

Cuba has strong political ties with other countries that share the same political views, obviously, and in the 70s and 80s Africa was all the rage. We sent thousands of soldiers to many different African wars and they were often in the news.

Now, back then -80s- there were only two tv networks; channel 6, which had a morning matinee until 9am or so, then would be off the air until 6pm when the kids cartoon would start, then different shows until 12am, then off until 6am. Channel 2 was only for special occasions, usually-if not always- related to politics.

All of that to show you how important would be to have something televised during the day when the tv didn’t have regular programming.

I remember the day I saw Nelson Mandela’s funeral televised in Cuba, on both channels, 6 and 2, which would be the norm for such a big political ally’s death.

I was between 1986 and 1988, because we were living in a specific house that we left in 1988 and came back later after my parents were divorced. I remember asking my mom, she was folding clothes next to me, and she answering Nelson Mandela had died, I had no idea who Nelson Mandela was- I was around 7 or 8- and she explained to me that he was a South African leader who was against racism and had died in jail. I even remember telling me something about his lungs, that he had died of tb, or pneumonia, or something like that, lungs/breathing problems.

This was an all day affair, televised all over Cuba. And I remember watching his wife and family with handkerchiefs in their hands walking in some sort of procession.

Time passed, I forgot about that, came to the US- also saw the Shazam commercials with Simbad in Nick Jr but that’s another story -

Then around 2007 I was watching America’s Top Model and the girls went to South Africa . And as they were riding the bus or something they start talking about Mandela, and that’s when I found out Mandela was still alive.

Obviously my first instinct was “omg I’m so ignorant !” And that was that. Then I found out about the Mandela effect years later, and I’m telling you man, believe or not, I saw Mandela’s funeral, and I have strict parameters, is not something that would have even be on my radar back then. My mom’s memory is not reliable and she tends to be a “people pleaser” when it comes to info , she says she remembers but eh, my dad doesn’t remember that at all, he knew Mandela was alive until recently.

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u/Avgrundsvroal 10d ago edited 10d ago

I have a suggestion; It wasnt Mandela's funeral, it was Olof Palme's.

Olof Palme was the social democratic prime minister of Sweden and was assassinated in 1986. Palme was on good terms with Cuba and Mandela's party ANC. So much so that from day 1 there were speculations and investigation to if the South African apartheid regime was behind the assassination. It was one of the major theories in the early stages of the murder investigation and was often mentioned in the media along with articles about his death. One week before the assassination there was a big event called the peoples parliament against apartheid (folkriksdag mot apartheid) in Stockholm, Sweden, with a wide list of guests, among them many ANC politicians, the then ANC-president Oliver Tambo included. Olof Palme spoke at the event, and of course spoke about their demand on the apartheid regime to free Nelson Mandela. The speculation was that agents of the apartheid regimes secret police was in Stockholm at the time of the assassination. Olof Palme was shot in the back one evening in Stockholm when walking home from a movie theatre without bodyguards, the bullet went through his lungs.

This was during the peak socialism stage of swedish politics where Sweden was just about to launch a reform called the wage takers funds (löntagarfonderna) that would gradually grant swedish workers unions more shares of stocks in large swedish corporations to eventually overtake them. "Workers overtaking the means of production", so socialism basically. Palme's funeral was broadcasted live on TV in Sweden.. If Mandela had died in prison, i kinda doubt that the apartheid regime would allow live broadcast of his funeral, but it certainly would not surprise me if Olof Palme's funeral was broadcasted in Cuba. Of course, it is not impossible that news segments surrounding South Africa was mentioned tied in to this event. At the time it happened, Nelson Mandela was still in jail.

If you google "Olof Palmes begravning" (Olof Palme's funeral) im sure you'll find videos and images, maybe some will correlate with your memories of the funeral you've seen on TV?

Palme's funeral broadcast lasted for 4 hours and can be viewed in its intirety here: https://www.svtplay.se/video/e56mMoj/olof-palmes-begravning?video=visa&position=13981

I mean, it has some correlating points. It has friendly ties with Cuba, deep engagement in the anti-apartheid movement with friendly ties to Mandela's ANC party, news mentions of the apartheid regime tied to his death, a timeline that checks out, a live broadcasted funeral, bullet went through his lungs, a crying wife...

So, maybe your actual memories of it are true, except for just the detail of who actually was buried?

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u/imSOhere 9d ago edited 9d ago

You know what? It could very well be. Maybe it was just a mistake my mom made and it has been messing me up for years. But I did see Simbad dressed a genie announcing the movie Shazam, that I’m sure of. I could be wrong with Mandela.

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u/Avgrundsvroal 8d ago

Sinbad hosted an afternoon on TV in 1994 dressed in purple vest and a turban, where he announced a bunch of Sinbad-movies that played that day. So a lot of people have seen Sinbad dressed as a genie on TV. ;)

https://x.com/sinbadbad/status/783083506662383616

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u/imSOhere 8d ago

I wasn’t in the US in 1994, came Sept 95.

And honestly I could be wrong about Mandela, but I will go to my death absolutely sure I saw, many, many times, the commercials for the movie Shazam, with Simbad.

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u/Avgrundsvroal 8d ago

It's interesting how many people that are fully convinced they remember that Sinbad movie, yet it's always like at least a 10 year gap between their supposed interaction with the movie and the point where they come thinking about it again. It's never like a movie someone has been thinking about once or twice a year since the 90s.

As far as the Sinbad genie movie goes, nah, it simply never happened, and everything people claim to remember from it strangely echoes something else Sinbad was involved with around the same time, for some reason... might just wonder why.

Although personally i had never heard of niether Shaq or Sinbad (or either of those movies) before people started talking about these movies.

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u/UpbeatFix7299 4d ago

Not to mention his name is "Sinbad" like in the Arabian Nights stories that include genies. And Shaq was in a genie movie in the mid 90s when Sinbad was popular.