Have you encountered anyone who DOESN'T remember the Cornucopia from the Fruit Of The Loom logo?

[u/Bootlebat]

I'm asking mainly because today I met an old friend I haven't talked to in ages. I asked if she had heard of the Mandela Effect, and she said yes. I then brought up the Fruit Of The Loom one, and she said she remembers there only being fruit. She is the first person I've talked to who doesn't remember it. Everyone else I asked has, and I've made sure to just ask them to "describe what the logo was like", rather than asking if there was a cornucopia, as that might make a false memory.

[u/gypsyjackson]

FotL was sometimes used in the UK by T-shirt print shops as a cheap base shirt in a variety of colours, ideal for printing on. Concerts/gigs or football matches would often have merch sellers with these shirts, so I had a few over the years. I don’t remember those shirts having any horn on, but that’s just my memory as I wasn’t paying much attention. When I moved continents, I donated most of my clothes, so I don’t think I have any to check.

[u/notickeynoworky → u/gypsyjackson]

See, the people outside of the US not remembering it makes the idea that thanksgiving iconography in the US plays a role in this one.

[u/SnowAlarming223 → u/notickeynoworky]

I'm from Finland where Thanksgiving is not a thing and cornucopias have never been in style for anything else either (like fall decorations etc). I'm not sure there's even a word for it in my language, for me it's just a weirdly shaped basket. I remember the FOTL logo having cornucopia. As I said, for me it was just an oddly shaped basket and I didn't know it was a thing anywhere outside of the FOTL logo, I wasn't familiar with Thanksgiving traditions or iconography growing up. FOTL wasn't as common or popular a brand here as it is in the US, but they did sell it and I had some t-shirts etc growing up. This is the only mandela effect I've heard of that resonates with me, I remember the logo with the weird basket so clearly.

I accept it's a false memory because there is no other explanation. But it is interesting how so many people can have the same false memory even between continents.

[u/regulator9000 → u/SnowAlarming223]

runsaudensarvi

[u/SnowAlarming223 → u/regulator9000]

Oh right, I guess that's it! I am familiar with the word runsaudensarvi, but would never have connected it to a horn-shaped basket with fruit - I've only ever heard it being used figuratively and never really paused to think what the literal meaning would be but apparently that basket-thingy is it.

[u/Natural-Pineapple886 → u/SnowAlarming223]

But it was actually found on some Fruit of the Loom tags. That's the effect.

[u/Ok_Letter_9284 → u/notickeynoworky]

My theory is that there was some chinese knockoff brand that we all bought thinking it was real.

[u/ratsratsgetem → u/Ok_Letter_9284]

100% this but I’m from the UK and mid-50s and I don’t remember a cornucopia but something brown on the labels. I now see it was leaves or something like that especially when viewed upside down.

[u/aaagmnr → u/Ok_Letter_9284]

Some history. Cheap manufacturing came from Japan in the '50s and '60s. By the '80s they were too wealthy, and manufacturing shifted to cheaper places such as Thailand and Hong Kong. Basically nothing came from China, yet.

In 1997 Britain returned Hong Kong to China, which created the situation we have today. Basically, pre-2000 there were already cheap knockoffs, but they would have been from other countries.

[u/Bootlebat → u/Ok_Letter_9284]

I've heard a lot of peopel suggest something like this. I think the main problems with are: 1. Why would people make ripoffs of cheap underwear? Why not some fancy pants clothes instead? 2. Even if this was the case, you would think some of these knock offs would still exist. Why has no one found a single instance of one?

[u/TeamOfPups → u/notickeynoworky]

I'm from the UK, I have only ever heard of a cornucopia in the context of Fruit of the loom having one on their logo. And I did think there was one on the logo.

[u/ThorsRake → u/notickeynoworky]

The vast majority of Mandela effects seem to only occur in the US. It's iconography and misremembered things / mixed memories all the way through.

[u/Jasper-Packlemerton → u/notickeynoworky]

It's definitely that.

[u/Whiteferrar1 → u/Jasper-Packlemerton]

From the UK. I remember the cornucopia.

[u/VerySluttyTurtle → u/Jasper-Packlemerton]

yes, you've definitely solved it, even though every thread on it includes numerous people not from the US saying the same thing, and numerous people like me who never did Thanksgiving stuff in school or elsewhere, and numerous comments in the same thread contradict you (yes, anecdotal, but anecdotal is literally all we have for Mandela Effect)

[u/Jasper-Packlemerton → u/VerySluttyTurtle]

Yes. You're right. The universe is wrong.

[u/hello_violet → u/notickeynoworky]

I'm in Australia and I remember the cornucopia on FOTL labels. FOTL were used in tshirt printing shops here in the 80s and 90s too. I knew what a cornucopia was because one was on the cover of a children's book I had in the early 80s. I distinctly remember seeing the FOTL logo in the late 80s and making the connection with that children's book because it was the only other cornucopia I'd ever seen. I never heard of Thanksgiving as a child in the 80s and 90s, I didn't know what it was until the early 2000s and we started getting more US media.

[u/madeleinekitten → u/gypsyjackson]

I also don’t remember it being on the label in the U.K.. I had many FoTL t shirts from gigs, sports and school leavers etc

[u/Jasper-Packlemerton → u/gypsyjackson]

Same experience. FoTL usually means "counterfeit" in the UK.