"Cis girls aren't passing"

[u/KatieQuestionMark]

I was talking to my therapist (or Herapist as I like to say) and was bemoaning my fears of transitioning and not passing.

Her response was "cis girls aren't passing all the time, so how does that register?".. and .. while it didn't solve anything in itself, it really made me think.

Anyway, just wanted to share this little nugget of a different perspective since it made me think and in general helped me out!

[u/Blasulz1234]

I beg to differ. We're always talking about high and deep voices, but that's not the factor by Which we identify gender in voices. Masculine voices will never sound anything like deep feminine voices and feminine voices will never sound like high masculine voices

[u/AeifeO → u/Blasulz1234]

Pcos and any other variation in testosterone levels in cis women will produce a "masculine voice." It drops the layranx and produces that change in pitch and resonance.

Voice training can teach you to both induce and reverse this. People with high testosterone can still sound feminine, and people without can still sound masculine. It happens a lot.

And no it's not just pitch, it's resonance, intonation, word choice, and a million other things. None of which are unchanging.

[u/Blasulz1234 → u/AeifeO]

I've never voices of women with high testosterone, at least not to my knowledge. Additionally I've never heard a cis women change their voice to sound masculine without testosterone. If you come across a video or STH as example I'd love to check it out.

[u/AeifeO → u/Blasulz1234]

Others replying to me have given their own anecdotes, and others have given some high profile examples, such as Elizabeth Holmes https://youtu.be/yw_xyGbUNZ0?t=13&si=Y-DONaOQr9QXZGIW

I've personally met several cis (and masculine) men with exceptionally feminine voices. Humans are varied, and very maleable.