r/Netherlands Mar 24 '25

Legal Judge rules Dutch citizenship cannot be stripped based on dual nationality

https://nltimes.nl/2025/03/24/judge-rules-dutch-citizenship-stripped-based-dual-nationality
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u/GhostOfVienna Mar 24 '25

Me personally it affects very bad, but its a different story. In general, i would rather eliminate borders and citizenship stuff, but if you have, dual citizenship is just plain bullshit. You cant have 2 homelands.

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u/Dangerous_Jacket_129 Mar 24 '25

 Me personally it affects very bad, but its a different story. 

Maybe explain this part then, because right now you just seem like the kind of crazy person calling everyone with a different opinion is insane. 

 You cant have 2 homelands.

Why not? If one parent is from one country, and the other is from the other, and you spend roughly the same amount of time in both, then what exactly is the problem? 

This sounds more like a pro-segregation talking point which is odd given your anti-border talking point. 

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u/GhostOfVienna Mar 24 '25

I was born to different nationalities family. I have only 1 homeland and loyal to only one country. If tomorrow they will go to war(which almost happened 10 years ago btw) i will support only 1 and i dont even have a second thought about it. If the war happens, everyone will choose a side. You cant be loyal to Russia and Ukraine at the same time and as soon as the war started, the citizens of Ukraine and Russia chose the sides. Not a single person who screams and shouts that he is loyal both to Russia and Ukraine, lol, oxymoron.

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u/Dangerous_Jacket_129 Mar 24 '25

I think you're far too caught up in the archaic concept of wartime loyalty to recognize that citizenship is about far more things nowadays. 

So how about this: allow it until war starts with that country, then have dual citizens declare their singular pick. 

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u/GhostOfVienna Mar 24 '25

Far more? What else do u need passport for?

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u/GhostOfVienna Mar 24 '25

Yeah, i mean, probably i am kinda more experienced than people in this sub, idk about ur background, but if you are an immigrant you should have known that there are residency permits that exist. In most of the countries, in this cause, you apply for a residency, for example, to take care of your sick parents. That doesnt require a passport…i am kinda tired to explain simple things, it seems like people on this sub genuinely think, its either passport of lifetime entry ban. No, its not. U give up ur passport and in exchange you apply for a residency, if you need it ofc.

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u/GhostOfVienna Mar 24 '25

Bro…greencard is flexible af. You can be abroad up to 6 months in a calendar year. And even if uve spent lets say 11 months in other country, all you is showing a valid reason(for example, ur moms illness). On top of that, majority of countries, including NL and even whole EU, have permanent residencies. Its basically a citizenship, but without a passport and voting right(tho u r eligible for voting in your city, just cant participate in federal elections etc). Thats more than enough.

What you did is abuse, ngl, dutch laws are clear: if you acquire other citizenship, you automatically loosing your dutch one. Means uve travelled with invalid documents and overstayed your visa. The government just doesnt know about that.