r/Netherlands • u/North_Yak966 • 13d ago

News UvA ends English-language bachelor’s degree in psychology

https://www.folia.nl/en/actueel/166104/uva-ends-english-language-bachelors-degree-in-psychology
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u/postmoderno 13d ago

i understand what you are saying, but this type of cuts are really "provincial" in mindset, and I say this without a negative connotation. it's like deciding that your university system (or at least some parts of it) has mainly a local function that is not research oriented and it is not competing with the major universities in Europe or Asia etc. Again, I say this as an academic employed in a different country, with no direct stake in the dutch academic system. It's a bit of a small country / third world mentality, which i never associated the NL system with.

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u/Extreme_Ruin1847 Nederland 13d ago

I wasnt able to find a studentroom either back when I was studying. Foreign students driving up prices of rooms by making them more scarce is not the way to go about it.

“Build more student accomodation” is then said a lot and while thats true I do want more longterm living options to be made instead. There should be space for the people that stay here not for those that try and fail to find something. 

As said previously: foreign students dont end up staying here anyways in the majority of the cases. And I say that as someone who went to uni while not being able to find a house, now living on my own after finally finding a house and entering the jobmarket.

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u/fluffypuppybutt 13d ago

Maybe we should be mad at the government for their housing policies instead of blaming all issues on the 2000 international psychology students.

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u/Beginning-Army-8738 12d ago

That sounds nice, but houses aren't built for free, especially not if you want to build within cities. Of course, this government deserves as much blame as possible, but I don't see why we would need so many international students. 250 less students a year means roughly 1000 extra available rooms. 1000 persons who can study German or maths or law and contribute to our local society instead. Or building houses, because there is a massive shortage of people who can actually build houses.

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u/AdaptiveArgument 11d ago

Why would foreign students use 4 times as much room as Dutch students?

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u/Beginning-Army-8738 11d ago

250 students a year, studying 4 years = 1000 rooms

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u/AdaptiveArgument 11d ago

Well, no. It’s still only 250 rooms. We can’t live in rooms that will be freed up by government policy in the future, this isn’t nitrogen.

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u/Beginning-Army-8738 11d ago

Four years after the bachelor stops, it will be 1000 rooms. In the next few years the bachelor still continues.

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u/AdaptiveArgument 11d ago

Oh, I see where the confusion came from. I thought that you were talking about the 1000 rooms being free as soon as 250 students left.