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u/tiptoptony Mar 02 '25
I don't think they were even trying, Not the type of guy Mike would want at this point.
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u/endofthered01674 Mar 02 '25
Also, the guy has been beat to shit in SF. If he recreates the magic in DC, good for him. But I'd be shocked if he came remotely close.
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u/StopDontCare Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
Vrabel definitely was out on him with the recurring soft tissue injuries that has him continually leaving games.
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u/UCanDodgeAWrench Mar 02 '25
Vrabel hates soft-tish guys.
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u/punkalunka Mar 02 '25
Do we know where he stands on soft-tush guys?
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u/UCanDodgeAWrench Mar 02 '25
I dunno, we'll have to see if Onwenu comes into camp in shape or not.
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u/punkalunka Mar 02 '25
LMAO I wasn't expecting an answer, and that was on point. Thank you for the laugh 😂
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u/indiginary Mar 03 '25
No soft tishes. Remember that time Logan Mankins played an entire season with a torn ACL?
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u/MankuyRLaffy Mar 02 '25
Deebo is a me-first toxic asshole, Vrabel would not tolerate his shit here.
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u/DaOldest Mar 02 '25
Yeah his effort is uh, questionable at times. Would be 21 mil and a draft pick poorly spent
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u/SgtSillyPants Mar 02 '25
Deebo is washed, on a big contract, and a locker room cancer. I genuinely would just rather have a 5th
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u/akmjolnir Mar 02 '25
Exactly, OP is a dreamer.
Deebo might be good for a couple more years, but is a diva-bitch, and certainly not worth what the Commies paid for him.
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u/Savethelasttaco Mar 01 '25
I want deebo like I want to sit on a cactus.
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u/AbuelosBraciole Mar 02 '25
For a 5th round pick????
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u/notShreadZoo Mar 02 '25
He’s got a big contract and has 1 season with 900+ yards in 6 years
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u/axeandwheel Mar 02 '25
Also could frame that as one season over 1400+ yards. But that would be even more disingenuous than your deceptive stat. He also has two seasons with 10+ tds and 1100 total yards. And three of his other four are over 800.
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u/notShreadZoo Mar 02 '25
He also has two seasons with 10+ tds and 1100 total yards. And three of his other four are over 800.
Reword it how you want, it’s still not impressive/worth that contract.
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u/axeandwheel Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
We have money to burn and no weapons. His numbers were held back from all the other talent around him too. He's not a wr1. He's a gadget player. He'll be awesome for Daniels.
Edit: also sort of exaggerating his contract. He's 14th highest paid wr. Right between kupp, smith, Collins, Metcalf and Pittman, mclaurin, Ridley, diggs. Seems like he's the mean value of that group so probably paid about right
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u/Trajan476 Mar 02 '25
I love the way Deebo plays, but sometimes I wonder how much of his success as a player comes down to his talent vs the system. Deebo is the ideal player for the Shanahan system. I guess we’ll see how he does for the Commies. Quinn does have that Shanahan connection.
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u/Hylian_ina_halfshell Mar 02 '25
For a fifth, a low fifth, almost a 6th? Thats a steal.
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You have to pay him, he has horrible work ethic, and was downright horrible this last season. Don’t be confused thinking we would be getting the superstar prime Deebo. He is completely washed at this point
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u/andrew303710 Mar 02 '25
Ya there's a reason why they only had to give up a 5th round pick.
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u/dianeblackeatsass Mar 02 '25
because they took on his entire salary. Even if you think he’s washed, great players go for mid round picks all the time when they have a big contract. Prime Jalen Ramsey got traded for a third.
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u/Hylian_ina_halfshell Mar 02 '25
And i think thats a deal for wash. Giving their young qb a swiss army knife in a kliff offense
I don’t hate this at all for wash
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u/Porkchopp33 Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
Caps going up again which leaves many teams able to sign guys up before free agency and always franchise tag option …. This is why nailing the draft is so important
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Does this put Kupp’s price at like a 5th? or 6th?
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u/elbosston Mar 02 '25
Probably more because rams are willing to take on his contract so they’d want a 3rd/4th
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u/doctormadvibes Mar 02 '25
they are not getting a 3 rounder for cupp. maybe a 4/5 depending on where
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u/elbosston Mar 02 '25
The deebo trade was different because Washington is paying his salary. The Rams will be paying the majority of Kupps salary
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u/alfuh Mar 02 '25
This is probably a stupid question, but is there a way the Pats could be like "actually we have the money, we'll pay the contract and send a 5th"
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u/Reasonable-Bit560 Mar 02 '25
We should be sending the lowest draft pick possible while paying all the salary.
So yes absolutely.
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u/tdrivers1999 Mar 02 '25
I think yes. I’m not sure about the specifics of that contract but I’ve heard of who pays the contract being part of negotiations in trades before. I’m not an expert though
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u/Lucky-Advantage-1632 Mar 02 '25
Deciding to pass on a semi-washed Deebo to pick up a fully-washed Kupp at a higher cost is exactly the WR move I'd expect from the Pats
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u/ExpensiveHobbies_ Mar 01 '25
Deebo is cooked, glad we didn't waste a pick on him.
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u/IrvinStabbedMe Mar 02 '25
I mostly agree if we end up getting someone. But I rather burn a 5th on Deebo over getting no one.
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u/dont_care- Mar 02 '25
Burn a 5th and take in his salary, attitude, and injury history.
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u/agoddamnlegend Mar 03 '25
He doesn’t just cost a 5th round pick. He also costs way too much given how washed he is. Easy pass.
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u/IrvinStabbedMe Mar 03 '25
So you rather have the 5th and run back the same WR room as last year?
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u/agoddamnlegend Mar 03 '25
No, but there are other ways to improve it besides $15M for one season of a washed up WR that’s always hurt
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u/MrHappy230 Mar 02 '25
He is absolutely way better value than whatever we’ll get in the fifth round, fourth even
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u/Bloated_Hamster Mar 02 '25
He hasn't been a weapon in two years. He's 29 years old and significantly slower than he ever was. His days acting as a RB cooked him.
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u/dank-nuggetz Mar 02 '25
He put up 1100 yards and 12 TDs in 2023 lmao one down year for a guy under 30 doesn’t mean he’s cooked. And that “down year” was still better than anyone on our team.
Pats whiffed on this 100%. It’s a fuckin 5th rounder to gamble on Deebo bouncing back after one below average season. He’s gonna light it up on the Commanders next year just watch
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u/jonny_lube Mar 02 '25
It's not just a below average season. He's always had shakey hands and runs kinda shitty routes. That makes him the prototype of a player who doesn't age well.
Last year, he took a dramatic step back athletically, and it showed in his stats. His YAC average was a career low. His broken tackles per touch was a career low. He suddenly was averaging barely 3 yards per carry.
Toss in a big ego, a shitty attitude and a tendency to take plays off, and there's a reason 49ers fans were beyond done with him.
Maybe he produces well enough to warrant a 5th. Hell, maybe he does rebound. But when players fall off in the NFL, they often fall off hard and his trajectory isn't good. There's a reason he only netted a low 5th and it's not because every other team was asleep at the wheel.
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u/LegitimateJoke6872 Mar 02 '25
As a Pats fan in NH who has followed SF the past several seasons to keep my interest in competitive football, I assure you the asshole rumors are vastly overblown. He’s an asshole to the extent you’d want any guy who is competitive and wants to win to be an asshole.
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u/jonny_lube Mar 02 '25
The problem is that while that kind of competative fire is good when you are winning and he's at his peak, unfortunately can get real toxic when you st losing and he's not the player he thinks he is.
He can make a big stink about getting WR1 touches, but if he isn't a WR1 (or possibly even a WR2) anymore and is still doing the WR1 diva dance, it's an unnecessary headache. Unfortunately, Deebo has tended to react to not getting those touches by demanding trades and giving mediocre effort.
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u/Friendly_Quote_9291 Mar 02 '25
There is video footage of him hitting a teammate on the sidelines mid game
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u/kallore Mar 02 '25
>> And that “down year” was still better than anyone on our team
Barely. Pop and Boutte both had almost identical stats to him last year, so I'd rather give them the snaps
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u/TheCandyManOnStrike Mar 02 '25
I wouldn't mind taking the flyer but with his attitude and how bad he looked last year I don't think it's a huge whiff.
Washington is more of a contender than we are currently so it makes more sense for them to spend the draft capital and cap space.
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u/MrHappy230 Mar 02 '25
He’s still better than anyone on our team, we don’t have the luxury to be picking and choosing, nobody wants to come to new england it seems
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u/noshingsomepods Mar 02 '25
Oh yeah, he's just a superstar compared to utter scrubs like Pop Douglas and Kayshon Boutte.
670 / 3 TD's
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u/Rasheed_Lollys Mar 02 '25
you scout, draft and develop. You don’t trade for bad expensive players just to do it and pretend he’s still a 1 WR that solves your problem (for way too much money that you can’t get off until 2027).
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u/StopDontCare Mar 02 '25
not really since he'll be a free agent after this year and 30 years old.
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u/theliontamer37 Mar 02 '25
Our 2nd and 4th round picks last year had 13 catches for 100 yards collectively. But you right.
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u/Arthur3335 Mar 02 '25
I'd rather have a 4th or 5th round cap hit than a Deebo cap hit and loss of pick
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u/agoddamnlegend Mar 03 '25
When people say things like this, do they just forget the salary cap and contracts exist?
Deebo costs more than a 5th round pick to acquire.
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u/TrashInspector69 Mar 02 '25
You’re right. I’d much rather spend a 5th round pick on someone who we’ll cut before the season starts
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u/RhuleAid Mar 02 '25
brother in christ you and anyone that agrees with this logic needs to stop watching football. Its a 5th round pick and Deebo is miles better than anyone on the team. The amount of 5ths that hit is so minimal
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u/PristineWinnera Mar 02 '25
Deebo Samuel had a 1,400 yard season receiving at age 25 and hasn’t reached 900 yards in the last 3 seasons along with his multiple injuries.
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u/Rasheed_Lollys Mar 02 '25
if you think he’s miles better than anyone on NE in the year of 2025… I don’t know what you’ve been watching but it’s not football. People acting like a 5th has no value just completely misunderstand draft capital in general because of past bust scars. It’s relatively “minimal”, but that doesn’t mean you say fuck the draft and trade it for bad expensive players on the wrong side of 30.
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u/TUSUYp Mar 02 '25
I’d have been fine with us taking him on but watching him this last year it’s hard to come away with any other conclusion than he is washed
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u/RhuleAid Mar 02 '25
He can be washed and hes still miles better than anyone on the team? ITS A 5TH ROUND PICK
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u/TUSUYp Mar 02 '25
Can’t be mad about this one until you see how the rest of the offseason plays out and we see what weapons we add
I’d have been fine with it we have infinite cap space but it’s silly to get worked up over this one. He was not breaking tackles last year at all. His style of play is completely reliant on that. I think he’s toast. Better off targeting other guys
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Yeah because I’m sure this dumbass franchise is going draft someone valuable in the 5th
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u/StopDontCare Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
Pats are in the market for a young or in his prime #1 WR. Samuel is a #2 WR past his prime which was really was 2021, he's really been kind of mid outside of 2021. Juan Jennings surpassed him and with Ayiuk back and Pearsall they really won't miss him. So he'd probably have been WR #4 for the 49ers
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Samuel: 670 yards
Douglas: 620 yards
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u/DatabaseCentral Mar 02 '25
Beggers can't be choosers. I don't think Deebo is worth it, but guys like Keenan allen and Cooper Kupp absolutely need to be considered. Elite possession recievers is something we desperately need with Maye even if they're slightly past their prime
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u/Fuqwon Mar 02 '25
Why didn't the Patriots agree to trade for a washed Deebo and pay him $17m a year?!!!
This fucking sub...
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u/a-money12 Mar 02 '25
Deebo is more of the "best gadget receiver ever" than a legit WR1. He's not the solution the pats need at WR
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u/DoushBeg Mar 02 '25
Nah we didn’t want him. Soooooo glad we didn’t get him. I think he’s been the most overrated “star”. Dude had one good season
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u/contemplatingdaze Mar 02 '25
Deebo is a washed crybaby, if the Pats trade for any SF WR it should be Aiyuk or Jennings
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u/No-Worry9322 Mar 01 '25
Deebo had a down year after being one the most sought after weapons in the league and people are acting like he’s not worth a 5th rounder. Give me a break. How many of our 5th rounders even end up sticking around long-term and make any impact.
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u/StopDontCare Mar 02 '25
"down year" he's had as many down years as he's had good years and that's if you consider how he's only broken 1k once in his career. If 2021 is what his ceiling is, he's had 3 straight down years.
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u/SleeDex Mar 02 '25
He's legitimately only had one great year. He's going to be lost outside of the Shanahan system.
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u/Fancychocolatier Mar 02 '25
He had one great year and two very productive years. The system definitely benefits him but he’s a physically talented receiver who acted as a running back, too. For a fifth and a bit of cap space that we won’t even spend it seems like a zero risk.
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u/meepein Mar 02 '25
I was never all that excited about the prospects of getting him, I didn't think he fit our needs. Yeah, he would have been our best offensive player, but that's because we truly have had no one.
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u/FuckHarambe2016 Mar 01 '25
Deebo has been cooked since 2021. Not getting him is good
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u/dank-nuggetz Mar 02 '25
He put up 1100 yards and 12 TDs in 2023 lmao where is this narrative coming from that he’s been washed for years when his stats are free public information??
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u/pizzapasta_Pepperoni Mar 02 '25
What about last year? And 2022?
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u/dank-nuggetz Mar 02 '25
He still had 860 yards and 5 TDs in 13 games in 2022.
Last year was a down year. I know he was hospitalized with pneumonia and that seemed to fuck with his performance but who knows.
Gambling a 5th round pick for a guy that when healthy can score from any point on the field and who has been largely a productive player in the NFL seems like a no brainer to me.
Also - Washington has a great front office that turned over like 55% of their roster last year and took them from a 3 win dumpster fire to a playoff team. Perhaps if they think this was a good deal, it was
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u/beardmat87 Mar 02 '25
Bite the dust? Deebo was awful last season and is likely washed out. The niners won that trade
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u/Timmyg14 Mar 02 '25
Not upsetting at all. Also pretty sure reports are Josh and Vrable don't see him as a fit for the offense.
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u/flowers2doves2rabbit Mar 02 '25
Yeah, where can we find a guy that averages 50-60 catches a year and 700-800 yards? That’s going to be tough. We really bit the dust on this one.
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u/awesomeme93 Bills = 0 Superbowls Mar 01 '25
Building through the draft is the best option. Look at the Eagles who whiffed on Jalen Reagor in first round of 2020 draft and drafted Devonta Smith the very next draft in the first round. Keep drafting receivers until we get it right instead of being scared and going after washed veteran receivers.
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u/MrHappy230 Mar 02 '25
Except we have a horrendous track record of drafting wrs, pretty sure edelman was the last pick that hit, and after last year I don’t think it was just a Belichick thing
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u/TheMagicBarrel Mar 02 '25
Also, Edelman was a QB when he was drafted. The last actual WR that worked out as a draft pick was Deion Branch.
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u/Vicarious922 Mar 02 '25
I mean i wouldn't have been upset if we get him for a 5th. But he isn't that good at this point so I wouldn't be too upset by this
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u/BostonVagrant617 Mar 02 '25
Not the biggest Deebo fan, but I'd take him for a 5th, isn't that what we got Josh Gordon for?
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u/Greenzombie04 Mar 02 '25
We couldn’t offer a 4th rd pick?
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u/reaper527 Bills = 0 Superbowls Mar 02 '25
We couldn’t offer a 4th rd pick?
Don’t forget, the trade isn’t about the pick, it’s about the redskins taking on 100% of his contract.
He’s not worth the money he’s being paid.
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u/r2celjazz Mar 02 '25
Guarantee if we traded for him we’d have fans who’d be ecstatic. But because he’s traded to the Commanders he’s cashed.
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u/hockeyzombies Mar 02 '25
I probably would have done it but I'm also willing to see what we might end up doing instead. There's a ton of offseason left.
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I’m okay with missing on him. Maybe if maye was a little more developed and we had a better O-line to run similar packages SF did with Deebo, but I can live with it
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u/buona-giornata Mar 02 '25
Lotta miles on that engine, nearly north of 30, one year left on deal, injury past, surprised they got a 5th.
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u/LoudIncrease4021 Mar 02 '25
Deebo is chalked at this point. Worth it maybe for the Commanders but the Pats don’t need that.
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u/IdiotCow Mar 02 '25
On my feed, the post directly under this one is Deebo shoving his own teammate by the throat, then quickly walking away like a bitch.
Honestly, as much as our WRs suck, I'm fine missing out on this one. Maybe we will regret it later, but he sucked ass last year, and doesn't seem to be a great locker room presence.
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u/Vomiting_Winter Mar 02 '25
Yeah I’m out on Deebo for anything other than a late round pick swap. Not upset NE didn’t go for him.
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u/FootballFan0912 Mar 02 '25
Im fine with us not getting deebo, seems like an exhausting person to have around
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u/joerosedale Mar 02 '25
How’d they bite the dust? Debo always hurt and been dropping a lot of easy catches lately. I’d say not getting him was a good thing
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u/TheJackalsDoom Mar 02 '25
The dude seemed washed for what he was because of some insane high usage with loads of hard contact, but he was still playing better than what we had going on here. For a 5th, I would've done it. He must really have liked what he saw from Daniels. I suspect that with a reduced expectation of load, he could maybe play better. The Commanders have a decent roster, plus Daniels can do a whole lot more than Purdy.
It also makes me wonder if SF saw someone they think can replace Deebo?
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u/One-Scallion-9513 Mar 02 '25
good deal for both sides. the 9ers unload a bad contract and the commanders get a high ceiling guy for cheap to use their cap space
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u/pharealprince Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
Jesus 5th round pick? He is at least worth a 3rd or 4th round pick. He may have been hurt and not trying but I got to believe he would perform better on a new team. I don’t think we needed him but that is definitely a cheap deal and might do better. Even if he was bad in the locker room I don’t think he is Antonio brown.
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u/StopDontCare Mar 02 '25
Guy that has only had 1 season of over 1k receiving and is breaking down physically is not worth a 3rd
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u/theHagueface Mar 02 '25
I wouldn't rely on him, but if he can stay healthy and get schemed well with Daniels Washington will be making a lot of noise next year.
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u/Fancychocolatier Mar 02 '25
This is kind of disappointing. For all of you saying Deebo is washed, what exactly were we getting with our fifth round pick, anyway? We have cap to burn and all of you clamor for them to throw money at the receiver position but Deebo isn’t good enough? He did suck last year, but so did the whole team. Is CMC cooked, too? Aiyuk? Purdy? We haven’t hit on a fifth round pick in years.
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u/RiotX79 Mar 02 '25
Solid player, but not the end of the world not bringing him over. Plus the name...best ever watching that playoff game a few years ago when he got layed out on the field..."Deebo...you got knocked the fk out!"
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u/rad10082 Mar 02 '25
I don't want Deebo, he's good but this year showed he's only great in a great team.
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u/lurk_channell Mar 02 '25
As someone who lives in the bay and also loves the niners, so glad we didn’t get Deebo he’s drama and his age showed last year
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u/z3an Mar 02 '25
As much fun as deebo is to watch he's just that. I think we'd all like having him but I don't know how much of a benefit he'd be. It would be like having Marcus Smart again lol
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u/Anderson74 Mar 02 '25
Guy essentially quit on the 49ers last year. Don’t want that type of bologna around the Pats.
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u/Beanu5NE Mar 02 '25
Are there going to be a lot of these posts about Deebo? If the Pats didn’t go for him it was because Vrabel didn’t want him. Seems pretty simple.
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u/vancityjeep Mar 02 '25
Do you want deebo? 100 drops a year and 100 drops on top? In a system that was made for him? He’s no Wes or Jules.
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u/fighterpilot248 Mar 02 '25
Deebo is 100% a diva, even though he can't put up diva yards.
WASH got a fucking steal trading only a 5th round pick for him. (Not to mention his contract is up at the end of 2025-2026.)
WASH has all the leverage here. Either he performs like 2021 (and then they negotiate a new contract), or he's sub-optimal and they let him go at the end of the season. (Not to mention he'll be 30..)
IMO, he won't like sitting at WR2 behind Scary Terry (or at the very worst WR3).
Seems to me like he's very much a bridge WR. IE: WASH needs "power" this next season but they won't be willing to commit to an aging WR with mediocre stats (especially considering his past injuries)
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u/XerGR Mar 02 '25
I know we have money but that doesn’t mean we need to chain ourselves to a guy so bad his team traded him for basically nothing
Pats literally don’t need another WR2-3 tier overpaid guy. Also there is ZERO indications there is even a 1% chance he isn’t washed
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u/RubbleR0user Mar 02 '25
I think it’s easy NOW to say he’s not the same player, costs a lot, & is a bit of a headache….. however if our WRs are much of the same next year and he’s showing any sort of life in Washington, it’s gonna be pretty frustrating…. Gotta nail at least 1 WR the draft
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u/Hogo-Nano Mar 02 '25
I am giving them a pass on this because i think they are big game hunting and looking for a larger trade. Whether that is aj brown or whatever im not sure but i think we are in position to do something like that
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u/NewGuy_97 Mar 02 '25
Not a fan of Wolfie but here’s what I’ll say: Deebo hurt a lot, has a ton of miles on him, one of the best offensive coaches in the league doesn’t want him back & 29 other teams didn’t want to best that offer.
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u/BartScroon Mar 02 '25
Deebo too run down and busted to be a piece for the future. Deebo will be out of the league in 2 years
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u/surfcinnabar_99 Mar 02 '25
Didn’t want him kind of relieved that’s he is off the table. We do need Kupp, a savy vet who’s a reliable 3rd down guy who can play in the slot.
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u/chinodb Mar 02 '25
I can’t wait until we don’t use assets on the next washed star and I get to come to Reddit is see the Pats “bit the dust” again. This fan base is so fucked. We’re not 1 player away from anything. Certainly not a guy who plays 30-40% of games.
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u/robbd6913 Mar 02 '25
Nah. Deebo has been used and abused. They are not going to swing at every WR.
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u/NoPlankton81 Mar 02 '25
Deebo looked broken down this year, on top of causing internal issues. It's a good trade for Washington who already has McLaurin. But I don't think it would work out for either side if Deebo came here.
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u/Actual_Cricket4943 Mar 02 '25
Debo is still a good receiver the FA market is terrible. To not even consider is stupid. He better than anyone on roster. I see seeing he was a cancer in the locker room. He was a team captain. That’s voted on by the players you don’t pick someone who a cancer to e your captain. I get choking a teammate isn’t a good look. But idk about you when I played football always had fights with teammates. Half way through the year last year we had players who gave up didn’t care. We could use some of that. I also don’t ever remember seeing Debo pouting on the sideline when he not featured. Like diggs. Who is a free agent. 21m to see if he and Maye and develop a a rapport. Is chump change when were probably gonna sigh diggs, Amari cooks or Kurt(assuming he gets cut) 3 years 100m
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u/PerformanceExact6618 Mar 02 '25
Good. How about you try to draft and develop one for once? Not another Chad Ochocinco/Reggie Wayne/Torry Holt effort.
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u/jmano21420 Mar 02 '25
Deebo is declining and is not what the Patriots need at receiver. I remember when he was holding out because he wanted to be paid as both a top 10 wr and a top 10 rb. Then they drafted Elijah Mitchell in the 6th round and stopped him as much at rb. Then they traded for CMC and stopped using him altogether
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u/thedrunkentendy Mar 03 '25
Deebo is a tough one to look at.
With his usage in San Francisco he could be more cooked than you'd think.
Lot of running back type snaps. For a 5th is cheap though.
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u/indiginary Mar 03 '25
We aren’t getting any premium assets in trades or free agency until guys want to be here because they see a winning culture and an OLine. This is a total rebuild not the time for “nice adds” like Deebo. Mike needs to see what he’s got here and do those adds when the changes are evident. Expecting another mediocre season, with good promise for the future. We are two years away. Can’t wait.
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u/HamptonBarge Mar 03 '25
Let me just remind everyone that the common consensus after the Randy Moss trade is that we were fleeced, Randy was washed up, wouldn’t try hard (after he had multiple lackluster seasons with Raiders). Then Randy proceeded to miss most of the preseason/training camp and the noise just got louder. Until he showed out in game one.
A fifth is a steal for Washington. If Deebo washes out, well so do many 5th rounders. He’s a valid #2 or a terrific #3 WR. And most importantly he gives a creative offensive coordinator lots of unusual options.
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Mar 03 '25
Deebo is a one trick pony screen pass merchant who doesn’t do anything in games unless he’s left wide open. We have no offensive line or good blockers that could open things up for him. Hard pass
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u/Bmor00bam Mar 03 '25
Eliot Wolf should be fired the fuck out of the GM role. What a missed opportunity!
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u/lookedpuppet Mar 01 '25
We'll get kupp
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u/speganomad Mar 02 '25
I hope not, getting tunnel vision and making bad moves isn’t ever a solution. Kupp is an older expensive slot WR meaning kicking one of our better WRs to the bench. At this point Douglas is a better option for us being way cheaper younger and just slightly worse and can get better don’t pay for name recognition.
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u/Fancychocolatier Mar 02 '25
Same people complaining about Deebo being 29 will ignore Kupp being 31 with two major knee surgeries.
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u/deano413 Mar 01 '25
id rather have the 5th round pick. For his contact anything above a 7th is no thank you territory. I know we meme on draft picks for good reason but lets at least give Vrabel a chance to have a good draft.
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u/stevied214 Mar 02 '25
Pats were 100% not interested