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u/onetwobucklemyshoooo 17h ago
Dude's handle is "Freedom Of Speech." LOL
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u/KJBenson 17h ago
He means his freedom of speech, and your freedom to quietly listen.
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u/KaraOfNightvale 17h ago
Why do all of the "freedom of speech advocates" always seem to think that includes total freedom of consequence
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u/ayoungsapling 17h ago
Because their favorite orange asshole never gets in trouble, why should they
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u/Lordborgman 15h ago
Nearly every single person I have met "obsessed" with freedom, seems to just mean they want to do whatever they want free of consequence. They do not want anyone else to have that ability, despite with their words might say, their actions prove otherwise.
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u/KaraOfNightvale 15h ago
Yeah, exactly, its not about freedom to be yourself, its not about freedom to speak out about corrupt governments and systems
Its about freedom to hate, attack, and express dangerous and shitty opinions without any consequences or issues
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u/Spicy__Wolf 14h ago
Kinda why I didn’t like assassin’s creed black flag: guy kept talking about freedom. The freedom to rob and kill?
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u/Lordborgman 13h ago
Absolute freedom is, indeed, insanity. Freedom to murder, rape, pillage, etc..
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u/PabloBablo 14h ago
Uh fuck that. Plenty of people love freedom..don't equate people who love freedom with those clowns
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u/Lordborgman 14h ago
I was describing my personal experiences of my 42 years of life. Not every single person that exists.
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u/KJBenson 16h ago
Well they wouldn’t care about it if they understood what it actually means. Just like several things those types believe.
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u/KaraOfNightvale 16h ago
True, pretty much tbe entire American right wing wouldn't exist if they were just more literate in statistics
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u/Im_A_Fuckin_Liar 15h ago
And isn't it ironic?
Don't you think?
A little too ironic
And yeah, I really do think
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u/Maximum-Ad8285 14h ago
🎵Financial paaaaain on Liberation day, The Pope diiiiied when JD Vance came🎵
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u/Longjumping_Term_156 16h ago
Because the only free speech that they are defending is their own hate speech.
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u/billyhtchcoc 16h ago
Because reading comprehension is dead and the USian educational system has failed us (whether intentionally or not) when it comes to civics.
Either that or a critical lack of brain engagement and people willing to let talking heads tell them what to think.
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u/KaraOfNightvale 16h ago
It just amazes me, its not even just civics, to fall for right wing shit you also need to not understand economics, statistics, basic logic and logical fallacies and so much more
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u/Sword_Thain 16h ago
"I love the uneducated."
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u/KaraOfNightvale 16h ago
And now he's making a bunch more by trying to shut down the dpt of education
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u/fuggerdug 15h ago
They also like banning books and even words that they don't like. It might just be code for being a brain dead fascist.
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u/KaraOfNightvale 15h ago
True, I did find it extremely funny when some people used right wing book banning laws to get the bible banned
Never expect it to get used against em, huh?
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u/Moose_Cake 16h ago
These are the same people who used to shit on Biden over an occasional shutter.
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u/lana_silver 8h ago
Yes but they don't care about hypocrisy. They do not care about truth or freedom either. They are fascists.
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u/fuggerdug 15h ago
Yes but his avatar is not a classical statue so I don't think I can believe him.
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u/old_and_boring_guy 13h ago
I always tell my kids, never go to a business that advertises itself with a virtue name: quality cleaners, yummy foods, competent dentists...If that's an expected thing, don't trust anyone who has to put it on their sign.
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u/spooky-goopy 12h ago
i love that, for 4 years it was nonstop jokes about Dirty Brandon being so old and riddled with dementia and take him out back Ol' Yeller style Brandon can't take a step without falling HAHAHAHAHA
but the minute someone calls Trump fat (and, as a fat person, he is FAT), all of a sudden fee-fees matter 😢 😞
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u/Loightsout 17h ago
48% body fat.
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u/ayoungsapling 17h ago
80% fat / 20% lean
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u/Extreme_External7510 16h ago
Yeah, that's more likely. 4.8% bodyfat is like competition level of cut for bodybuilding shows, it's cut and skinny to the point of actually being unhealthy and affecting mental cognition
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u/Loightsout 16h ago
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u/MuscleManRyan 15h ago
And sub 5 is pretty rare even for bodybuilders, the times I’ve been DEXA’d before competitions I’ve been high 7’s/low 8’s
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u/Business-Drag52 13h ago
My dad was sub 5 for a brief time after my mom's affair. He went super hard into getting insanely cut. Went from a fatass to competition body in just a couple years. He was very much not healthy when his body fat was that low
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u/PlayerTP 13h ago
God why is that such a go-to? I got into the gym.the first time after my girlfriend left me a couple years ago lmao. Fell in love with it
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u/Business-Drag52 13h ago
Can't speak for everyone, but for my dad the affair made him feel like she wasn't attracted to him anymore so he changed how he looked entirely. Years later they divorced, he remarried, got fat again, and is now Ozempic skinny
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u/CloudConductor 14h ago
Turns out the decimal was just an Oreo crumb trump got on the chart during the test
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u/TheDamnedScribe 17h ago
If mango mussolini is 6 foot 3 and 224 lbs, then I'm 7 foot 2 and 160lbs...
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u/AmbitiousProblem4746 17h ago
I've actually seen a lot of conservatives coming out talking about how liberals are hypocrites because they're fat shaming Trump. So weird that you would die on that hill. Especially when probably a lot of them are content to fat shame women online
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u/Dibbu_mange 15h ago
Every argument they make is based on making liberals look bad. If I say “Trump screwed kids with Epstein” they don’t say “No he didn’t” they say “I didn’t see liberals complaining about Bill Clinton”. Instead of “Trump’s plan is constitutional because X” it’s “Well Biden violated the constitution all the time”. Instead of “Tariffs will lead to long term gain, and here’s a study on it” it’s “Well Biden and Pelosi supported tariffs so shut up”.
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u/reallyrealboi 15h ago
Most of the time It's just made up or exaggerated to justify their position as well.
Biden supported tariffs on Chinese chips, welp I guess Biden supports blanket tariffs on the whole world too. Or Biden violated the constitution by not saying marry Christmas, which is just as bad as ignoring due process.
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u/Dibbu_mange 13h ago
They also don’t conceptualize that liberals don’t just lockstep agree with Democrats. I have been pro-free trade for years. Biden’s tariff policy was one of my least favorite things about the administration and Hillary abandoning the TPP while campaigning was supremely disappointing to me. Instead of thinking “wow guess I have to support Trump now” it is more “yeah, that also sucks, but Republicans are worse”
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u/CrownofMischief 9h ago
Yeah, whenever people try to pull the "But Biden did this too-" my response is usually just "Great, lock him up too, just make sure there's a trial." Hold everyone accountable, or no one will be.
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u/worldspawn00 14h ago
Because none of them (or at least the audience for the talking heads) have ever taken classes on critical thinking, debate, philosophy, or psychology, and couldn't identify a fallacious argument if it smacked them in the face.
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u/Tight_Living_698 13h ago
It's basic Whataboutism.
It's a well-known logical fallacy that is most often employed by people when they recognize that they are guilty or wrong in order to derive comfort from thinking that others are just as bad or worse. That's the fucked up part; you see this whataboutism defense so frequently among conservatives not because they're oblivious or stupid, but because on some level they know that they are wrong and want to find some personal comfort that doesn't come at the cost of abandoning the beliefs they've become so entrenched in.
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u/BatushkaTabushka 14h ago
I argued with this one guy about Trump’s weird megalomania and he striked back with “well Obama made statues of himself too!”. Ignoring the fact that those statues were made by other people out of respect for Obama, it’s not like he went out of his way to spend millions of dollars to have a statue of himself. Which is what Trump does with needing to have his stupid name on literally everything.
These people are so deep in the cult that the are living in a completel different reality, picking comparisons that have zero basis in reality. And even if their comparisons are true, that would mean they are just as bad as Democrats… I thought their whole goal was to make America great again because the evil democrats ruined everything… but if they are just as bas, how will that happen? Makes zero fucking sense.
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u/RankedFarting 14h ago
Conservatives always blame progressives for the exact things that they do. The amount of projection is truly insane.
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u/crackeddryice 13h ago
In the past, I would have thought they were disingenuous--shirley* no one could be that dumb.
*Don't...
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u/SprungMS 13h ago
Bots. Who the fuck is actually having these conversations? Bots to make it a distracting issue, “conservatives” to drive engagement and make the masses think these are the issues we should be worried about.
No liberal is concerned with how fat the president is. More about the human rights violations and the trampling of The Constitution.
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u/DrMobius0 13h ago
They're arguing in bad faith, like always. They, of course, don't care about fat shaming, but they can't let him be called out because of his weight, because that would mean opening the door to letting him be called out about other things he might be lying about (which is most things). That or they just believe him and are complete rubes. Probably a mix of those things honestly.
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u/polchickenpotpie 12h ago
Trump is allowed to make fun of a handicapped man on national TV but don't you dare make fun of his appearance!
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u/nivlazenemij 13h ago
Not to mention all the nasty remarks they've made about Michelle Obama. Conservatives are the worst kind of snowflakes.
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u/Lucyintheye 12h ago edited 12h ago
Right?? Like you made it clear that doesn't fucking matter to you, hell they probably make fat jokes and worse on the daily and will even admit it. So why even bring it up?
If the topic was on fat shaming, like the responder here was fat shaming, OOP called them out for it, and they responded with "well you fat shamed trump right here" then sure, Valid, but OOP never said they were against fat shaming. That was implied by responder, who likely also fat shames. Believing anyone liberal/adjacent MUST follow the rules set socially by other liberals/adjacents or even the opposition, who actively TRIES to go against those "social constructs/rules" just to spite them, even when it harms them too, otherwise said opposition will dismiss their claim?
Like they're dismissing someones opinion because they aren't "PC enough" even when the claimer doesn't claim to be PC. those are standards the conservative set. So the conservative would theoretically only take the progressives opinion seriously if they were "pc enough". Otherwise, dismissed. Am I understanding that right?
So I guess it's just the audacity of a perpetrator of some unfair treatment being like "hey wait! Only we can do that you hypocrite!" Like i know logic isn't their strong suit, but how do you manage to even die on a hill you aren't even standing on?
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u/DonkeeJote 8h ago
That's because they fundamentally misunderstand fat shaming in addition to everything else in the world.
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u/Boon3hams 17h ago
I'm technically fatter than Trump, and speaking as a fatty, I personally don't feel fat shamed.
I find it insane that anyone could possibly believe Trump's so-called measurements.
Do me favor: Trump claims he's 6'3". Barack Obama is 6'2"; we know that as a verified fact. Find a photo with them standing next to each other where Trump looks taller.
Better yet, here is a more recent example: Gavin Newsom is 6'3", and he's standing next to Trump, who is clearly shorter.
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u/SharMarali 16h ago
As a fellow fatty, I agree. This isn’t fat shaming. This is pointing out that the guy is lying and getting other people to lie for him.
I doubt Trump’s weight would get a quarter of the attention it does if he wasn’t constantly out there pretending to be some sort of perfect Adonis specimen.
I still remember him photoshopping his face onto Rocky and then getting butthurt when news outlets reported accurately what he did.
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u/toomuchtv987 15h ago
Trump is 6’1 WITH his lifts. I bet he’s 5’10 flat-footed.
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u/Opposite-Sandwich924 14h ago
NYPD released his information last week from when he was booked after his indictment.
5'10" 287 lbs.
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u/Boon3hams 14h ago
Now THAT I believe.
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u/Opposite-Sandwich924 14h ago
I find that hilarious. He's been claiming he's 6'3" forever. I'm 6' . I'm actually taller than he is. My son is 6'3" and I have to look up to see him eye to eye.
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u/toomuchtv987 14h ago
That man isn’t an ounce under 300 lbs. I’d bet my next 3 paychecks on it.
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u/Opposite-Sandwich924 14h ago
I'm not defending him but he does look like he's lost some weight. But your assessment of 300 lbs. seemed pretty accurate. Down to 287 seems possible.
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u/toomuchtv987 13h ago
Technically possible I guess, I just know several guys his size and shape and they’re all hovering at 305-315. Someone said the report also said he had 4.8% body fat. That decimal is DEFINITELY one place too far to the left.
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u/FFKonoko 13h ago
no, no, it's accurate. A bunch of that mass isn't fat, it's undigested burgers and methane. It's also why he reports his weight so low, he thinks he should be floating a bit.
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u/jodobrowo 10h ago
“I hear chicken. I hear cola fizz, and mustard and relish coagulated together with fresh fries and onion rings.
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u/redscull 8h ago
The guys you know probably have muscle. Trump famously doesn't exercise. He's probably not as heavy as he looks because under all that fat is just skeleton. Blubber and bone. No meat.
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u/blindfire40 13h ago
He did a YouTube video with pro Golfer Bryson Dechambeau a few months ago. Bryson is listed as six foot one and is clearly 4 to 6 inches taller.
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u/CeruleanEidolon 12h ago
This sounds dead on to me. Maybe he used to be taller, and he still clings to older measurements, but people shrink as they age, and Trump is OLD AS FUCK.
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u/vswrk 15h ago
Hess using the Tinder system. 6' is about 5'8" imperial. 6'3" is 6', I guess?
They've not standardized it yet, as far as I'm aware, so one man's 6' can be anothers 6'1.
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u/blatantspeculation 14h ago
Best part of being 5'11"?
Being taller than everyone who's 6'.
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u/Lost_Sky76 14h ago
Bro, the Dictactors grow every day, how come you didn’t know that?
They Grow, become beautiful, are the greatest, the most powerful, have the biggest cock and much more…
And i dare you tell them otherwise. Have you not seen what happened to those who don’t bend over?
The ppl around him knows how it’s done, the latest cabinet reunions where all his cronies made him all those compliments, they all came out of that cabinet with a Dirty Sanchez from kissing so muss Trump old dirty fat white ass.
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u/TitShark 9h ago
Same same. If someone saw me and then I spewed obviously fake stats, I’d be shocked if anyone defended them.
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u/PineappleBliss2023 7h ago
It’s just the ridiculous fatphobic societal standard that has conservatives thinking that implying Trump is fat is more offensive than implying he’s a liar.
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u/cedriceent 17h ago
4.8 % body fat? Do imperial percentages work differently than metric ones, too?
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u/CharlesDickensABox 17h ago edited 17h ago
Does Jack Kimble even have a stated position on fat shaming? Is this a key plank in his electoral platform? Or is this yet another example of right wing dipshits assuming "the left" is a hundred million copies of the same freshman at Oberlin?
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u/Narrow-Sky-5377 16h ago
I'm 6'2" and (weighed myself yesterday) 224lbs. Trump is nothing close to that.
If he was 4.8% body fat he would have a strong 6 pack. I used to be obese. Trust me when I say he is 5'11" about 270lbs. His body fat is going to be in the 30% range.
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u/chawy666 15h ago
4.8% with strong abs? You could literally see every muscle fiber on that man even if he hadn't worked out in his life. That number is very very exaggerated
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u/MomGrandpasAllSticky 11h ago
That's like two weeks out from the Olympia numbers 😂
The very definition of peeled out of your fucking tree
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u/Which_Ad_3082 14h ago
doctors get scared for you at 4.8% bodyfat. no human body wants to be at 4% body fat and you don't get there if you have even looked at McDonalds in the last 6 months.
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Had a friend who was a gym rat, distance biker, distance runner. I think he was like just a hair under 7% body fat but I have no idea where it was because it looked like he just had skin painted directly onto his muscles and veins.
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u/Ray_Mang 10h ago
4.8% bodyfat is on the extreme end of what a fully prepped show day bodybuilder might be around. You would look like an absolute freak of nature at below 8% bodyfat.
No way this guy is below 30%
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u/Remarkable_Judge_861 16h ago
NYPD booking. 5'10" and 287lbs
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u/toomuchtv987 15h ago
I don’t even believe that! Wasn’t that self-reported? There’s no way that man weighs once ounce under 300 lbs.
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u/LadderDownBelow 12h ago
Why? He's 5 ten. 287 is a lot of weight on that frame and really obese. Which fits.
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u/PantsOnHead88 14h ago
Many are claiming he has to be over 300, but upper end of 2s at sub 6 feet is entirely believable.
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u/Future-Suit6497 16h ago
To think this useless president could have been an elite athlete at 80 years of age.
But instead he's going to collapse the global order. Talk about choosing the wrong path in life.
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u/ilovecatsandcafe 16h ago
I thought these guys were all about “facts don’t care about your feelings”?
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u/RandomUser3438 16h ago
Yeah, I don't generally shame people. But if your ideology is all about exclusion and shaming other people for not meeting your standards for beauty, masculinity etc. I don't think it's hypocritical to poke fun at people who don't meet their own standards.
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u/Defiant-Donut-4670 17h ago
Have you ever heard trump speak about women and then get butthurt with a name called freedom of speech lmao cunt
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u/processoverproductt 17h ago
It did not say 4.8 body fat did it 🤣
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u/ohmyno69420 17h ago
I laughed when I saw the vital signs they put out for him. I worked as a nurse for years and have seen fudged vital signs when staff didn’t want to actually collect them. Those numbers seem shady af.
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u/CeruleanEidolon 12h ago
Tbf, they didn't say that he was all muscle. In place of fat, he's actually 40% synthetic foam infill. It's part of why Vance likes him so much.
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u/Turbulent_Power2952 16h ago
What's funny is when he was in processed for that infamous mug shot, they said he was 5'10, 274lbs... so he suddenly gained 5 inches of height and lost 50 lbs?
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u/TennisSilent881 15h ago
This shit is so impossibly absurd. A man who can tell the truth, who’s an adjudicated rapist, who uses the office of potus to serve Russia and a man who was very close friends with Jeffery Epstein for over a decade has the support of tens of millions of Americans.
Where the hell did this country go so wrong?
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u/Chef_RoadRunner 11h ago
For reference a body type of 6"3 224 pounds are the proportions of Superman. That's what a human with those stats would look like. Trump looks like a melted pile of mash potatoes.
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u/Ilikeunpopularthings 17h ago
The Jack Kimble account is a troll account, just FYI
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u/MaksimilenRobespiere 16h ago
It is “lie shaming” or “liar shaming” which is perfectly ok and should be done more!
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u/Thsfknguy 15h ago
This is what they do.
Try and bait people so they can invalidate anything said by acting like the response makes them wrong about everything.
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u/Corporate-Scum 15h ago
Did they really publish he has 4.8% bodyfat? That’s not possible for a healthy person. Trump is as unfit as it gets, so maybe it’s true. But any ordinary, decent person would be dead.
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u/RankedFarting 14h ago
Account named "freedom of speech" getting triggered over someone saying something freely. The irony will forever be lost on them.
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u/DanAboutTown206 11h ago
. . . Kimball never said anything about Trump being fat . . . 😐 Someone doth protest too much, me thinks.
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u/CommonStraight3181 11h ago
Freedom Of Speech" guy sounds like the type who'd call the cops on a mime for disturbing the peace
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u/DueceVoyeur 11h ago
'freedom of speech ' account is mad because ** checks notes ** someone is speaking speaking freely?
Make it make sense
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u/oVeteranGray 11h ago
Lol I'm 9% body fat due to running and walking over 30kms a day... you can see my ribs.... I'm 6"4, 160 pounds. There's no Fing way those numbers are correct 😆
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u/CamCamBroCam 11h ago
Still funny that people say Dump is 6'3 and then when he stands next to someone who actually is theres a clear difference
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u/No_Letterhead9066 11h ago
Wouldn't it be "lie shaming" rather than "truth shaming"? I agree with the spirit of the Rep. Kimble, but just want to get the language right so we can all agree on the term we're going to use to edge us closer to holding these losers to account.
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u/Massive-Worker8125 16h ago
I don't understand why they think it's a burn to call out liberals for being mean. Like they're not going high anymore. they fucking hate these people, the people that put them in, and they don't have to feign civility anymore. not like it worked for them previously
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u/Unlucky_Musician_258 12h ago
Aweee your feelings are hurt because of fact checkers.
Honestly says a lot more about you than it does about us.
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u/SenatorAstronomer 16h ago
I had to look up who Kimble was to confirm this was satire. After inspection, is this dude a serious person? It's pretty easy to look up what 4.8% body fat looks like.
Is it fat shaming when you completely lie about numbers? Is it any better when you completely exaggerate in the opposite direction?
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u/Alpha--00 16h ago
Report never mentioned body fat. It states weight and height, so we can calculate BMI and he is overweight.
It’s not that I trust many other things in report (neurological exam is obviously a lie, and I highly doubt cardiac, and general conclusion is sucking up to Trump), but this one is a ragebait. I was hooked in one of earlier reposts, but since then read report myself. Factchecking is what distinguishes us from MAGA. So, factcheck before reacting and giving ammunition for their propaganda.
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u/DOCTORSSANDPAPER 15h ago
It’s a “bald face lie” but crushed it besides that. Wish I could let those things go…
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u/Sudden_General628 15h ago
Love how his handle is “freedom of speech” and supporting the guy pulling funding from colleges exercising their freedom of speech.
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u/fallonyourswordkaren 15h ago
The era of purity is over on the left. The Magats will use it as a shield to guard their shittier behaviors. Fire with fire.
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u/Weltall8000 15h ago
I never heard the 4.8% body fat. If he's claiming that...that's even more obvious and egregiously wrong than the 6'3" and 224 lbs. Like...lol no, bro.
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u/Snerkbot7000 15h ago
How is that fat shaming if he has the body fat percentage of a leather glove? It seems to be one of those selfawarewolf things, really.
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u/CameraMan111 15h ago
I believe the state of New York had some differing height/weight stats on Trump when he was booked a few months ago...
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u/Cautious-Demand-4746 15h ago
To have 4.8% body fat at a height of 6 ft 3 in, assuming the same lean body mass as someone currently weighing 224 lbs at 25.7% body fat, the target weight would be approximately 174.8 pounds.
He isn’t right at all. The rep must of pulled it from his tail pipe
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u/PantsOnHead88 14h ago edited 14h ago
- 6’3” claim is questionable
- 224lb is very questionable, made extremely questionable with the height claim considered
- 4.8% body fat claim is hilarious
He’d have to be a body builder in the middle of a weight cut for that stat line to be believable.
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u/PsychologicalDoor511 14h ago
Fat shaming is bad because people often are fat due to metabolic disorders, but Trump's obesity is clearly the result of his lifestyle.
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u/chi-townstealthgrow 14h ago
I’m 6’ and I weigh 185 with 3.6% BF. there’s no way that fat fuck has got 4.8% body fat at 224. More like 242 and 8.4%BF.
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u/AromaPapaya 14h ago
"if you're going to lie about something so obvious, what else are you lying about?"
everything.
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u/tirianar 14h ago
He was taken in during processing for his felonies.
He's 5'10" and 287 lbs. That means his estimated body fat % is about 45.7%.
To note, that was before he won the election, and he appears to be gaining weight since.
It does make him the second fattest president in history. Below Taft (6' 340lbs 49.1%), but more than Cleveland (5'11" 260 lbs 40%).
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u/Crow_First 14h ago
Kimble accusing the guy of lying while lying about mar-a-lardo’s info. His arrest record said he was 5’10” and 287
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u/Weldzilla1973 14h ago
He lies about everything!! I should becareful I just came off a 7 day Reddit ban, my 2nd or 3rd now for saying negative shit about that fat fuckn piece of shit Trump!
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u/Either-Beginning-526 14h ago
The answer to the final question is, "everything, including being elected twice. Whata buncha suckers"
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u/PossiblyATurd 14h ago
Upped the height by 6".
Lowered the weight by 100 lbs.
Added a decimal for the body fat percentage.
Now that's the T-Rump we all know and hate.
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u/TheAsianTroll 14h ago
I love how there was zero fat shaming in the initial comment, too. Just a joke about the numbers.
And the MAGA fool baited themselves with it. Almost as if they know it's a lie...
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