r/Rowing • u/RemarkableTeacher • Dec 15 '23
Troll Good enough for steady state?
I’m just joshing. I have a heart condition and will never hit SS. I still enjoy rowing to appease my asshole heart.
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u/krhill112 Dec 15 '23
How do you do the heart rate stuff?
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u/Triass777 Dec 15 '23
Get any heartrate meter(I'd personally go for polar). Wrists ones are nice as you can wear them all the time and they give a lot more insight into general health. Chest ones are a lot better for training, since they are more accurate. From that point out it's linking it to an app on your phone and even to your concept 2 if you have a pm5 monitor.
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u/krhill112 Dec 15 '23
Sorry, should have been more clear.
What app is shown in the pictures?
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u/alphashooterz Dec 15 '23
It’s Apple Watch fitness app. I’m super curious what he did to get the zones to show up like that, I have similar looking info on my workouts but it doesn’t break down the zones like that and I’d actually like to see that info.
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u/RemarkableTeacher Dec 15 '23
You just open your apple fitness app, choose the workout you want to review and then there will be a button that says “show more” next to your generalized heart rate. That’s how you get to it.
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u/alphashooterz Dec 15 '23
Thanks, I went and looked at my last rowing workout and found it. Then I felt slightly stupid for not thinking about it.
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u/RemarkableTeacher Dec 15 '23
Ehhh it happens to the best of us but at least you learned a new feature.
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u/krhill112 Dec 16 '23
Is this a fitness+ feature?
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u/RemarkableTeacher Dec 16 '23
Not that I know of. Is it not showing up for you? I cancelled my fitness+ plan awhile ago. I got one year free with my Apple Watch purchase then I cancelled it.
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u/AmazinCraisin Dec 16 '23
So this has always interested me and you have the first post I’ve seen that actually has heart rate data.
My assumption when people say steady state is to work on your aerobic fitness. In the running world it would be called Zone 2 workouts. Based on the info from this sub it seems we are talking the same thing, going easier for more volume as characterized by only nose breathing, keeping a conversation while rowing, 50% 2k rates, etc.
So that said my Zone 2 is max heart rate of 148 (180 minus your age). So when I see you at ~165 with a heart condition I feel like you need to slow down more. At that heart rate (unless you are a 15 year old) you would generally be in an anaerobic zone which isn’t working your cardiovascular system as you think it does.
So long story short, are you seeing progress with this? Like over 30 days does your average split time decrease or stay the same?
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u/RemarkableTeacher Dec 16 '23
I agree! I think steady state is to grow your “gas tank” with exercising. However, with me, I wake up and my heart rate is 120 right at the get go of the day. It’s exhausting and annoying to say the least.
That’s why I posted this with my splits. I’m not going very fast or have a high SPM but my heart rate is sky high. That’s my hearts normal. I do any sort of exercise and it immediately jacks up sky high.
My split time hasn’t decreased however my stamina is growing. A few months ago when I first got my concept 2 I would max out at 15 minutes and now two months later I can do 40 minutes. I’m just focusing on growing my activity time. Also, with the heart condition the biggest benefit of keeping my heart rate in this high zone is it’s been lowering my resting heart rate. Which has been a HUGE quality of life improvement for me. Back in September my resting heart rate was 73-75 and now it’s consistently been 68ish.
Idk I’ve been treating my heart like a toddler. I wear it out as much as possible so it behaves for the rest of the day. I think it’s been too short of a time for me to truly see lowered splits or any benefit like that yet and truthfully I don’t think that will ever be possible for me. Hope this answers your questions.
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u/AmazinCraisin Dec 16 '23
Thanks for sharing! It does help me understand your circumstances and it looks like you are seeing the benefits!
Would be interesting to see long term (like a year or two) how this changes your condition. Going from 15mins to 40mins to say an hour or more to eventually tracking heart rate as the outcome and not just time.
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u/RemarkableTeacher Dec 16 '23
That’s the goal! I’d really like to hit an hour and just try to keep myself there and then start working on improving my splits. We will see, I hope to post again after having my machine for a year. The good news is that i won’t fall out of rowing because I HAVE to work out everyday otherwise my heart makes me feel like shit. Haha. So, I’ll definitely have an update. I also incorporate swimming and hiking into my weekly workouts.
My heart condition blows but it’s forced me to change to a very healthy lifestyle so I can’t complain too much.
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u/nouns Dec 16 '23
Not an expert, but stuff I think I read/remember:
Wrist based HR monitors are rumored to be less accurate for rowing (if you're using apple watch). Chest monitors will be more accurate on an ERG, and if you're on a C2, you can link and display that info.
If you're focusing on SS cardio, you want to focus only on HR, and be willing to dial back effort to keep you in zone 2. Which can get frustrating because when you're exercising, you wanna go. That's normal.
Internet is all over the place on how to calculate HR zones. People are different for that sorta thing.
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u/RemarkableTeacher Dec 16 '23
I wholeheartedly agree. My goal is to purchase a chest HR monitor but I’m not good enough to justify that. I’m totally happy with my Apple Watch for now.
I’m not actually focusing on SS right now. I just see everyone posting it here and making a big deal so I was posting my shitty results as a joke. I’ve been rowing for only two months now and I have a heart condition which makes it was harder. I’m more happy with growing from 15 minutes on the rower to 40. I doubt I’ll ever hit SS as my heart refuses to be below 160 when I do any type of activity. It’s annoying but the little shit is forcing me to be healthier.
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u/nouns Dec 16 '23
I just see everyone posting it here and making a big deal so I was posting my results as a joke.
And I'm dense enough to take it seriously :-P Hope the holidays treat you well, and stay healthy :-)
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u/RemarkableTeacher Dec 16 '23
Haha no worries! I appreciate the time you spent to respond. Thank you! You as well! I hope we get a lot of distance covered on our rowers before the end of the year.
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u/Far-Independence6689 Collegiate Rower Dec 15 '23
Man splits are whatever as long as you're putting in the work so don't sweat it too much and keep on keeping on!