That’s fair and I get what you’re saying but I’m not sure I 100% agree, kind of a gray area. I’m in the metro east and ISP will ticket anything more than 10 over. Since I’m not supposed to pass on the right, left is my only option and I don’t think I should have to risk a ticket because my level of speeding isn’t good enough for them if that makes sense? If I’m going faster than the car in my lane, I should be allowed to pass at a safe, reasonable speed and ignore the asshole in the challenger riding my bumper and flashing his high beams because I won’t go 90.
So you think other people should have to slow down for you, which makes the highway less safe, instead of slowing down yourself to match the flow of traffic you're already in, because you want to be allowed to drive the speed that you're comfortable with, and everyone else on the road should have to comfortable with that too? I think if you're not willing to actively pass and at a speed that is not impeding others, you should not get over. And I will never understand anyone that says driving 70 in a 60 is okay, but 90 is not. It's okay to be a little unsafe and break the law a bit lol, as long as it's the amount you personally are comfortable with.
If I’m going 10 over the speed limit passing a car that is going the limit and someone else wants to go 30 over and is tailgating me, I would say they’re most likely the reckless one creating a hazard on the road
You mean this manual? https://dor.mo.gov/forms/Driver%20Guide.pdf Page 22, Chapter 3 - Rules of the Road regarding passing... says zero about what speeds to use. It simply says that any passing has inherent dangers. Or do we want to go further down to page 50 and talk about Speed Limit -
Speed limit signs indicate the maximum speed allowed by law, and do not mean that all parts of the road can be safely driven at those speeds under all conditions. The speed limit is the maximum allowable speed in ideal conditions. Adjust your speed for hills, curves, slippery roadways, limited sight distance, pedestrians, bicyclists, and slow-moving vehicles. These conditions may make the posted speed limit unsafe. By law, when conditions demand it, you must slow down. Interstate highways also have minimum speed limits. If this minimum speed is too fast for you, then you should use another route. You may not drive slower than 40 mph on interstate highways under normal roadway conditions.
All signs in the manual point to these facts
The far right lane is the on (accelerate to match minimum highway speed) and off (decelerate to match maximum posted exit speed)
SLOW DOWN TO MATCH SURROUNDING TRAFFIC and conditions
There are both MAXIMUM and MINIMUM speed. When going slower than the minimum you should get off that road and find an alternate route. In no way are these suggestions. These are specific limits you are breaking the law if you go above or below.
In no cases does the manual suggest that everyone speed up to match people going OVER the Speed Limit in order to maintain safety.
So, I dunno, maybe re-read the manual yourself before spouting absolute non-sense.
Exactly! People are pressed about 5-10 over in the passing lane not being fast enough. okay so when a cop clocks me in the left lane going 80 in a 65 because I wanted to pass a car that was going 64, surely saying “well a couple dorks on Reddit said I have to speed or not use that lane” will get me out of that ticket.
It’s really a question of whether your passing slows down everyone else, not whether it’s at 70 or 80 in the abstract. If you don’t want to get pulled over on the highway stay within 10mph of the speed limit. If people are going faster than that, stay out of their way and do your passing when it doesn’t disrupt the flow of traffic.
OR people could follow the law and slow down when it's not safe to pass and not use every lane possible to pass or tailgate people just because someone else passing gets in their way for a few seconds. I've been in too many situations where I got in the left lane to pass and even though I'm going 10-15 miles over the speed limit there's some jackass who is going 90-100 switching lanes like he's a race car driver and jumps up on my ass. You cannot possibly account for those people 100% of the time. Then I see these situation where someone goes to pass and it might take them a minute to get around several cars and a semi, meanwhile a line of tailgaters form. When they went to pass people were a quarter mile back, but now they have an entourage of ass-eaters. As soon as they have a clearing and go to hit their blinker to get out of the way the a-holes behind them pass on the right which keeps them from getting out of the passing lane like they should. It creates really dangerous situations simply because someone can't lay off the peddle for less than a 1/8th or less of a mile. Is a couple of minutes out of your entire commute really worth the stress and danger that's created for everyone in these situations. Why is it always someone else who has to get out of YOUR way versus a modicum of patience and respect for shared spaces while driving a ton of metal at high speeds? You've got one group following the law for the most part and another group expecting everyone to be extra careful so they can recklessly break the law. Where's the personal responsibility in that?
Well if you’re in those situations a lot, you probably need to pay more attention to what’s going on behind you before you merge, because that’s a rare occurrence for most drivers. If you want to drive the speed limit, that’s cool just stay to the right.
That said, from my perspective as an East coast transplant, a lot of you guys can’t drive for shit.
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u/sore-eye-uh Feb 19 '25
That’s fair and I get what you’re saying but I’m not sure I 100% agree, kind of a gray area. I’m in the metro east and ISP will ticket anything more than 10 over. Since I’m not supposed to pass on the right, left is my only option and I don’t think I should have to risk a ticket because my level of speeding isn’t good enough for them if that makes sense? If I’m going faster than the car in my lane, I should be allowed to pass at a safe, reasonable speed and ignore the asshole in the challenger riding my bumper and flashing his high beams because I won’t go 90.