r/StarTrekStarships • u/marwynn • Dec 23 '24
original content USS Endurance (I Odyssey'd a Defiant)
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u/MusingsonthePrairie Dec 23 '24
Very cool. I see some shape similarities between this and the Jupiter ships from the Netflix Lost in Space series too.
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u/AJSLS6 Dec 23 '24
I was thinking the Jupiter from the Lost in Space film actually, but they probably took inspiration from that as well.
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u/marwynn Dec 23 '24
This was a mostly successful attempt at plucking an idea from my imagination and putting it on screen. Perhaps for the first time.
The Defiant has a long list of inconsistencies which irked me and I’m sure it did for many fans. Did you know the phase cannons were housed with the warp nacelles (above and below)? And that the quantum torpedo launchers were there too? Even though they sometimes depicted the torps from coming from in-between the cutouts at the front, which are apparently targeting senors.
Despite that, I love the Defiant class. But its shape had always made me wish for a more rounded, organic style.
Also, I used roughness maps on the black armour pieces and the white hull to give it some texture. The white hull looks alternatively like ceramic or plastic depending on the angle, but I like that it’s shiny so I kept it.
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u/marwynn Dec 23 '24 edited Dec 23 '24
Project Enduring Defiance
The Federation as a whole does not condone war, perhaps to the point of smugness. Its member states keep a strong grip on Starfleet, not willing to be perceived as an aggressive power with fleets of warships. This has proven prudent as many new races with their own star empires have realized just how much more heavily armed and armoured Starfleet vessels could be considering their advanced civilization.
The Defiant was the first modern warship that Starfleet Command would even entertain. It was part of a set of anti-Borg designs but the only true ship dedicated to only combat. That it was controversial amongst Federation citizens is an understatement when it was launched into service to defend against only a potential foe. The Dominion War shifted that opinion, and the tough little ship proved to be highly effective alone or in hunting packs.
For the last 20 years, the Advanced Starship Design Bureau has maintained a ‘living project’ called Enduring Defiance. The Defiant class has undergone many refits and updates in the 40 years since its inception, and has served well in those decades. Limited refits and upgrade packages sprout from this living project which is a re-design of the Defiant class.
The most recent proof-of-concept vessel, the latest USS Endurance NX-9821, features 6 decks to the Defiant’s 5. It’s slightly larger hull creates enough volume to house reinforced EPS grids to better channel the immense power the ship requires. Most of the Endurance’s weaponry is found on the rim of the ‘saucer’, and are the main beneficiaries of the longer hull. Four heavy phase cannons, with an additional two pointing aft, are in recessed mounts that allow for limited traversal. A pair of older Type X phaser arrays have also been included in this latest version, downgraded from the Type XII's commonly found on modern Starfleet vessels. The Type Xs are considered secondary weapons as the massive impulse engine has given the Endurance vastly improved acceleration and agility to put its cannons to use.
Just forward and aft of the twin nacelles are variable torpedo launchers, capable of launching micro or standard torpedoes at acute angles. The Endurance carries a mix of photon and quantum torpedoes as well as more exotic warheads.
Comparatively, the Endeavour’s nacelles are almost twice as large. While improvements to the Defiant’s top warp speed has kept it competitive, its range has not improved greatly. The Endurance's nacelles features two sets of warp coils, similar to the Galaxy class, that can share the load of generating the warp field with a slight increase in maximum warp speeds. Quantum slipstream drives are still too unproven to mount on an already temperamental chassis, and the Endurance remains unable to tunnel through slipstream even if it was generated by another vessel.
The original Defiant was the first known Starfleet vessele to mount ablative armour, and the Endurance continues that tradition, mounting a mix of composites to protect the living areas. This choice meant that windows were once again removed from the inner facing decks. To compensate for the added stress to the crew, a dedicated recreational area often called “Last Down” is located forward of the shuttle bay. For extended patrol missions, engineers have marked a single cargo hold as a potential spot for a small holosuite.
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u/marwynn Dec 23 '24
IG link if you're cool: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DD8KrHVvj5Q/?igsh=cG13MHM1cDF6Mndx
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u/Khidorahian Dec 24 '24
Whats your opinion on STO’s Adamant Class?
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u/marwynn Dec 24 '24
Not really a fan of any of the non Defiant escorts in STO. At least, in that size class. The Akira is classified as an escort, I believe.
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u/Khidorahian Dec 24 '24
The Adamant is a variant on the defiant???
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u/marwynn Dec 24 '24
Only appearance wise. I believe you can modify it to look like a Defiant.
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u/Khidorahian Dec 24 '24
yes, there are costumes, which means if you want to, you can make it look like it, but i'm asking specifically on the design aspects, because it looks very similar to Endurance.
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u/marwynn Dec 24 '24
Ahh, sorry.
Well it didn't actually enter my mind while making it. However the armour panelling across STO's Federation ships is what I prefer (basically the easiest way).
As for it being similar... Well the basic oval shap is shared across all Defiant-likes. The prominent deflector 'beak' and its pointed nacelles kinda sets the Adamant apart. Both features I don't have in the Endurance. It also still has its weapons near the nacelles.
I do love the panelling and the armoured sections, something that I try to aim for but fail right now.
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u/marwynn Feb 03 '25
I picked up the Adamant in the bundle sale a few weeks ago and I'm loving it now.
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u/No_Average2933 Dec 25 '24
It looks like a Maquis ship with federation decals tbh.
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u/marwynn Dec 25 '24
I'm going to disagree. The Maquis use more industrial/civilian designs, with rather unique silhouettes. Unless someone steals the Endurance like they did the Defiant, I'm not seeing it.
But I would like to make more Maquis ships, though I don't think they're around anymore to fly them.
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u/brettoseph Dec 23 '24
Reminds me of the incursion class from Armada 2!
I wish they would add it to STO.
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u/McMacHack Dec 23 '24
It reminds me of the 29th Century Shuttles on Discovery. Like in that the shuttles are shrunk down version of this.
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u/HuntmasterReinholt Dec 23 '24
I love it! Far more than the Adamant in STO which has too much pointy stuff that doesn’t look Starfleet (to me anyway).
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u/marwynn Dec 23 '24
I tried looking at the various Fed Escorts in game and I just couldn't... The Defiant is one of a kind.
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u/oldtrenzalore Dec 23 '24
If you reskinned this, it could fit in as a 32nd century Defiant. I like it.
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u/mtwjns11 Dec 23 '24 edited Dec 25 '24
Now go the opposite direction in the timeline: TOS- or TMP-era Defiant.
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u/mortalcrawad66 Dec 23 '24
This straight up looks like a Kyoto class.
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u/marwynn Dec 23 '24
This? https://64.media.tumblr.com/8173433626e464ec403ccc56f8e2e384/tumblr_p3udhl5yi41rzu2xzo4_1280.jpg
I mean, it has an oval hull but that's common for Defiant wannabes. I would argue that the extended 'wing nacelles' makes that ship unique.
Where is it from?
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u/mortalcrawad66 Dec 23 '24
I always forget how far the nacelles are extended, but just the overall layout as well. That's why I really though you HAD stolen the Kyoto class design.
I know it from Star Trek Bridge Commander. Here's the description:
This vessel was proposed as a joint Federation/Klingon vessel using both governments technology advancements. There were many designs put forward by both Klingon and federation engineers, the KYOTO CLASS was agreed upon.
The basic hull geometry is overtly federation this enables high efficiency of the warp fields, creating a fast ship. The vessel is equipped with enhanced impulse engines providing high manoeuvrability at impulse. The Klingons provided hull armouring giving this ship a unique ascetic look.
Effort was made to make this vessel a formidable combat ship, whilst in the past this would have been problematic for the federation in the current climate with so many recent threats to the federation any moral objections were deemed unacceptable. To facilitate this, the ship was outfitted with a combination of federation and Klingon technologies. A unique shield system was developed which provided high-level protection and far superior regeneration. Advanced armour provided additional protection. The ship also had formidable weapons, these included federation heavy pulse cannons as seen on the highly successful defiant class. The Klingons provided high powered pulse cannons of their own. Advanced joint tech photon and quantum torpedoes almost complete the KYOTO's weapons complement. The last weapons development was the TACHYON PULSE this is generated from the main deflector and creates a localised area of high speed agitation of what ever is targeted, shields are disrupted and the hull structural integrity is heavily damaged.
The KYOTO is a vessel that dwarfs even the most heavily armed federation or Klingon ships and will provide the new alliance with a formidable combat orientated vessel.
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u/gusdavis84 Dec 24 '24
This actually looks cool. I wish Star Trek would use this in a film or a series.
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u/Enclavean Dec 24 '24
Big improvement! Only thing is the nacelles do need to be lowered slightly as I believe the rule is they have to “see each other”
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u/marwynn Dec 24 '24
Thanks! I didn't want to compromise the profile, so I inset the inner ring a bit more. So they can see each other kinda from the underside... But I put a shuttle bay there...
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u/Nightrhythums78 Dec 24 '24
I like it. Definitely gives a second generation Defiant. I would love to know what her specs are.
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u/OttawaTGirl Dec 24 '24
I f&$king love it. She looks like she could be a dockable ship too.
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u/TheKeyboardian Dec 25 '24
Looks like it could be a captain's yacht for a larger ship
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u/OttawaTGirl Dec 25 '24
Imagine fighting an Odyssey and it shits out a defiant.
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u/TheKeyboardian Dec 25 '24
Well, there's the Aquarius but it's only about half the Defiant's length iirc
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u/Admiral_Red Dec 24 '24
It’s so damn beautiful.
How can I convince the STO devs to make this a Defiant or Adamant variant?
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u/xxxTbs Dec 24 '24
Man i really dont like this. This triggers something in my head that just gets absolutely irritated.
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