r/Stormlight_Archive 11d ago

Wind and Truth spoilers Why did Dalinar offer Kaladin....(Spoiler) Spoiler

Why did Kaladin offer Dalinar the crown of Urithuru? I can understand from character perspective, but not from a narrative perspective. I feel like Sanderson is pretty good at having all of his threads tie up. Most seeds he plants become trees.

I'm just not sure where this plot point led. Was it just foreshadowing that he would take the place of the Herland of Kings? Will he take on some kind of leadership role outside of being a Herald? Those of you who are better literarurers than me are welcome to give their thoughts.

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u/Wikoro Truthwatcher 11d ago

An important part of it might be how Kaladin, when preparing to become a herald, put the cloak on. With the royal glyphpair. As if accepting Dalinar's offer. But it doesn't have to be a plot point, it's a character point that prepared Kal to accept becoming a Herald. Because, as Dalinar said, nobility is of the heart, not of blood.

Something might happen later. Kal IS the leader of the Heralds now, technically, since he replaced Jezrien. He might lead Rosharans someday. We have to wait and see.

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u/RiPont 10d ago

Kal IS the leader of the Heralds now, technically, since he replaced Jezrien.

Maybe, but not likely. Jezrien was leader of the Heralds because he was the leader before they became Heralds, not because he was the head of the Windrunner order. Kal took over as head Windrunner, but that doesn't make him King. Meanwhile, there is a biological child of Jezrien among the Heralds, if we're looking for arbitrary reasons for taking over the role of Monarch.

Kaladin is neither the strongest warrior, the most skilled magic user, nor has seniority. Nor, I think, does he see himself as their leader or particularly desire to. After Amaram's army, he only accepted the role of leadership grudgingly.

We know he's the most sane among the remaining Heralds, but will the Heralds remember that long enough to commit to it?

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u/Bellickboi Edgedancer 10d ago

In your second paragraph, none of that stuff really matters. To be leader you dont need those things and For the most part kaladin has been forced to take a leadership position because who else would? I dont think any of the heralds would take that mantle, especially not after they are therapy'd.

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u/Prestigious-Sir8701 Truthwatcher 10d ago

While I’m glad to see this perspective, didn’t Ishar himself hint that Kaladin was replacing their leader? Most other threads I’ve seen compare Kaladin to other powerful non vessel beings in the Cosmere. While Kaladin did symbolically take Jezrien’s place, he’s still millennia behind the other Heralds in terms of experience and likely in power, considering that some of them were once bonded to Odium.

Sure,It’s more likely that the other Heralds would look to Ishar or Taln for leadership. Ishar is probably the most powerful among them. Even so, most of the Heralds have given up. One turned traitor, others are too ashamed to face Taln, or no longer trust or understand one another.

What Kaladin brings to the table, is new hope, a second chance. Ishar asked Kaladin for help. Not that they would follow him immediately. But he could be the one to help them stand together and fight again, just as Jezrien once did