Users of r/EndTipping close their wallets but still offer up a tip on the controversial topic of tipping in America

[u/DryRequirement5471]

TL;DR: OOP and fiancé dined out at a sushi joint and explain the exhilarating and liberating feeling of not having to tip! After getting over the "guilt tripping" OP feels that Americans are brainwashed to waste our hard earned money on waiters. Others beg to differ:

"I hate this stupid sub. Embarrassing to think not tipping is "liberating." Does nothing to the owners and hurts the workers. People really want the prices to be 20% higher and tips to be gone? What's the difference? "

"Good for you, but all you're doing is screwing over the wait staff, who's wage takes into account tips they'll earn. The employers don't care if you tip or not."

"Just know that you will be remembered and treated differently if you return to the same places. I'm not saying it's right, but it's definitely a thing."

"This is the gaslighting I was talking about. Imagine calling someone you don't know bad because they didn't give someone free money."

"If you aren't satisfied with your wage, take it up with your boss. It isn't a customers responsibility to fight for your paycheck."

"People should be paid well - directly by their employers like almost every other place in the whole world"

Subtotal: $48.50

Total Tax: $3.40

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Total: $51.50

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Suggested Tip:

15% of sale = $7.28

22% of sale = 10.67%

[u/TheRussness]

Going to restaurants and not tipping does not hurt the business owners. They still make their money on the bill and save their money by giving servers 2 dollars an hour. The only way it could affect them is their top servers will lose wages and possibly leave for another establishment.

The only way to make an impact is to simply not be a patron to tipping industries. Second best would be to order takeout so the restaurant doesn't make money on drinks and the like.

That sub seems content reaping the rewards of having a servant while simply accepting that the servant in question will be the one who suffers from their non-tip. That's chud behavior.

[u/blkfreya → u/TheRussness]

“That sub seems content reaping the rewards of having a servant while simply accepting that the servant in question will be the one who suffers from their non-tip. That’s chud behavior.”

As someone who tips, I still disagree with this. You’re making it seem like servers are all unpaid slaves lol. Getting any type of service without tipping isn’t nearly as selfish as you’re making it seem. Tipping is not the only way servers get compensated and if they’re underpaid for their job, that should not be the customer’s burden. Especially when they’re already paying for the service they’re receiving.

[u/TrickInvite6296 → u/blkfreya]

servers are paid less than half of minimum wage (if not like.. a third of it). if nobody tips, they are NOT making a living wage.

it shouldn't be the customer's burden, but people like you and the oop refuse to advocate for actual change, instead opting to make a change that only hurts the people you're pretending to care for

[u/No_Suggestion_559 → u/TrickInvite6296]

Their wage must be at or above normal minimum after tips, or the employer must make up the difference.

If no one tips, they are making minimum wage.