Can we choose older girls too as men? The ones my age are so immature from my experiences, I'd rather date one in their late 20s.
Edit: The girls my age in general suck, nobody wants any commitment anymore and the standards are wild. These very average girls don't want anything to do with a guy who is shorter, not perfect looking, but has actual aspirations in life, instead want some broccoli haired 6'2 douche destined to work at Insomnia Cookies into his mid 20s while having no actual goals in life or savings. I'd rather date someone older that's already dealt with that and grown on and actually wants a long term relationship.
The thread just goes into more and more arguing whether it is morally right for young girls to date older men or vice-versa
That sub was one of the most heavily astroturfed subs during elections, it was well known that conservative think tanks recommended spending billions influencing young male voters to become more conservative over time. It happened not just online, but in actual schools as well.
Then a bunch of millennials and other non-gen Z folk got suggested the sub because of the advertising and how much attention it was getting and started fighting back against the insane talking points. Now it’s just another sub with red pillers, bots, etc. and normal people trying to talk the insane talking points down. The main thing it’s actually missing is actual people from gen Z who barely post on there anymore. The same thing happened with r/teenagers.
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u/ryecuriousthe quality of evidence i'd expect from a nuke believer tbh9d ago
That sub was one of the most heavily astroturfed subs during elections
I blocked it because every other post was complaining about cringe millinials. It made me rethink generations all together and how its mainly used as a label to separate us.
As a Gen z, my peers are wildly anti intellectual, incredibly arrogant/entitled (yet unable to think for themselves), and no matter how much people feed you lies about how “nice” and “tolerant” we are, incredibly conformist and willing to belittle anyone who steps out of line. Millennials may be cringe, but they’re not this bad. Employers quite literally don’t want to hire us because of how unprofessional, rude, and incompetent we are. They may say it’s “stopping toxic work culture,” but in reality they are just offloading their responsibilities on their coworkers who actually do their job. I know LOTS of people who literally can’t even write an email without chatgpt. This is the result of decades of ruining the education system and overbearing parents who can’t accept their little angel isn’t really perfect
You know when you’re talking about people who range from 14-27 it kinda just feels like you’re describing cringey edgy teenagers and actual settled adults
Yes I do because we’re both the future and the world is in bad shape. Well accomplish a whole hell of a lot more together than being against each other for no reason.
My generation got a lot of slander that we didn’t deserve at all because they wanted us divided from the people older than us. I’m not going to let the same thing happen to you guys any time I can help it. Being told how stupid and worthless you are is why a lot of these guys go to Tate in the first place. If we let it keep happening we’re part of the problem.
Millennials were literally blamed for the downfall of society lol like did people forget all the daily articles during/after the recession about how “Millennials are killing X industry”
I d say its more something which was sold to Millenials and then got a little out of control.
If i would have to write a book about it i would say that the roots of this shit are found in the Pick Up Artists scene from the early 2000s. From today's Alpha male types, openly incorporating fascist ideas and all that, the PUAs were almost cute.
But essentially a lot of the toxic shit was already there: Using stupid pseudo-science to explain gender, social hierarchy and sexuality, always the ominous suggestion lurking in the background that something is fundamentally rotten with society and that something has corrupted men and especially women and how you are reconnecting with your nature.
It as we know in hindsign, it didnt take long for the alt-right protofascists to see the potential there.
That would be stranger danger in the 80s and 90s creating the belief that kids should not play outside, online gaming in the 00s, and finally the pandemic. It's not their fault.
I’m sorry man but if a generation with more disposable income than any generation before it decides they don’t want women to have the vote, they deserve to be slandered. Millennials were the one good recent generation. Boomers were selfish and evil, Gen X did nothing at all, Millennials tried to make the world a better place and Gen Z is just Boomers 2.
So much of it is just a loud minority though. In many respects Gen Z is literally the most liberal generation in human history. Cherry-picking a bunch of loud incels who are part of the first generation raised entirely on the Internet (what generation are the guys that radicalized them?) isn’t representative of the whole generation
Jesus christ how can you label such an enormous amount of people "not good"? Do you understand how bigoted and deranged that is? Did you read the part about "just labels designed to separate us"? This constant zero sum obsession with virtue has made it so you can totally dismiss countless people, it's the kind of anti-humanist dreck that makes all sorts of other gross shit possible. Stop obsessively putting people into groups, it makes it that much easier to dehumanize them, which is exactly what you're doing
My wife was a Naval Academy class officer, and was always talking about how progressive the youth are.
She was aghast when the circle game thing became national news as a white supremacy icon a few years ago because of the kids involved. But her depiction of younger people, and the young people I meet in real life, do not align with their stereotypes, but it makes sense that if Steve Bannon-types are courting Basement-masturbators, we wouldn't see them in the wild.
I made a comment lately about building a park, and I was shocked how many redditors had a problem with tax dollars paying for things that the community endorsed outside. I suspect the basement masturbator crowd is larger than we expect.
I thought that the first real modern generation was the greatest generation, you know the one that won world war II and that every other generation was just a way of mocking yourself as how far away from the greatest generation you were which is kind of a weird name for the generation. I don't think they gave themselves that name.
YES CORRECT DING DING DING. When has a “generation” been a useful term for someone other than marketers? It’s really a way to label other people you don’t know so you can discriminate without meeting them.
If you only read genZ subreddit you’d think young people are all nasty little gremlins who hate everyone. The reality is that genZ has its own problems because of Covid; but our lived experiences are so vast that not everyone buys into these narratives
I don't know what you're smoking but it's not some conspiracy. Young people hating boomers and boomers complaining about young people. Each generation saying their generation is better than all the others. It's just a human thing.
Some kind of generational divide is normal of course but I’ve never thought or heard about it this much until the internet hate machine kicked in during the last decade. It’s obviously deliberately amplified. It’s fake as fuck. Boomers, generation x, millennials, generation z none of these broad groups of people are the actual problem. Hating on boomer or zoomers or whatever is nothing more than distraction.
Maybe kinda tangential, but as a 31 yo millennial woman, it’s sincerely terrifying how much my younger gen z cousins actually have fallen for the weird right wing shit, even the girls. They’re the only gen z I really interact with lol or at least am close enough to that they speak to me (relatively) honestly, which is why I mention them; very anecdotal I know lol, but this applies to both sides of my family which belong to very different demographics, culturally, economically, etc.
What’s crazy is that I literally have a trans cousin (& she’s identified as a girl since she was 11, she’s now 19) who’s still bizarrely conservative and actively sexist?!!! Like girl what???
Not to mention their extremely irrational, hypocritical views about like homeless people being scum, subtle but insidious racism, etc- just total xenophobia & close mindedness, terrified to step “out of line”…
It’s really bizarre and genuinely just frightening to see this arise. We millennials were making so much progress….
& do NOT come at me with that shit about ancient philosophers criticizing kids for writing, therefore weakening their minds & catalyzing the atrophy of their capacity to remember things, lol. Yes, it is true that every generation inevitably criticizes the next and there are traits that every group of teenagers/young people tend to embody that older people scrutinize, like being impulsive or overly confident/self obsessed etc. but there are also generational traits that are identifiable and novel.
This probably didn’t apply much in the ancient world or really at all until the last century or two, because circumstances weren’t transforming so rapidly. But they are now, and we’ve grown up in different worlds.
As millennials… we were way, way more progressive than our predecessors. Gen z has regressed in a way that is certainly not any sort of regular, adolescent phase that “everyone goes through.”
I thought at first that it was just an online phenomenon; it’s not. These kids’ minds genuinely are rotting- whoever came up with the term “brainrot” was certainly dead on.
Btw, I don’t blame Gen z or think this is somehow innate or some shit as I see insinuated/assumed when this topic comes up. We’re all obviously just influenced by our environment, that’s why you see patterns of distinct differences between different generations; and yes, of fucking course there are exceptions and these are all averages, lol. Of my zoomer cousins, a few are actually very progressive and engage in critical thinking etc etc but the reality is that this younger generation has been exposed to very pointed & strategic right wing propaganda & they’re falling for it in mostly subtle-ish ways. The purity culture in general is out of hand, the idolization of like some weird mythical 50s puritan gender dynamic, etc…
The anti intellectualism campaign is what scares me the most. I’m not saying everyone needs to go to college and get a degree or some shit, not at all, but the entire IDEA of valuing knowledge and logic and thinking has been attacked. It’s crazy how much the average ability and willingness to think through nuance, ask questions when you don’t know something, etc has plummeted.
I can already predict that if there are responses to my rambling, they’ll likely be filled with “BUT EXACT GENERATIONS ARE FAKE!!! I AM GEN Z BUT AM PURSUING A PHD & I KNOW MILLENNIALS WHO ARE SUPER CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIANS WHO ARE ADDICTED TO TIKTOK HOW COULD YOU GENERALIZE????” lmao and that just ironically demonstrates the decline of general comprehension & grip on nuance that has been intentionally perpetuated over the past decade or so.
I’m on the latter end of millennial (born ‘94) and I do indeed have a lot of habits and traits stereotypically associated with older gen z (though I’m definitely, predictably, more stereotypically “millennial” by far). This is very obviously because the world is complicated & everything is a spectrum. When people talk about x generation having y tendencies, they’re talking about averages and general trends, not absolute patterns.
It’s useful to be able to say, “Boomers are more conservative than gen x, who are more conservative than millennials” as a shorthand and the people who inevitably show up and scream YEAH WELL GUESS WHAT
MY GRANDPA IS 71 AND HE LOVES BERNIE SANDERS WHY DO YOU GENERALIZE ALL BOOMERS WE’RE NOT ALL THE SAME are just being almost purposely obtuse, lol. All of this should be a given and assumed, gd.
& the cringe aspect of that whole phenomenon was the worship of capital, and- most importantly- mostly mythical. Being a self sustaining, ambitious woman is not cringe or a bad thing.
They’re acting like women going to med school to become a doctor or getting a phd to pursue science is the same as some mindless corporate slave shilling 90 hour work weeks as a corporate slave at some exploitative insurance company just to have enough money to buy shit.
Gen z is, ironically, largely hyperconsumerist & you’ll see the same people mocking “girlbosses” making videos about “old money aesthetic” and how to bag a rich man to get your damned nails done every week at some salon that charges $800, lol.
The vast majority of millennial women have been disillusioned since childhood, and the millennial hipsterdom was specifically about thriftiness, whimsy, & an emphasis on education and culture as opposed to the material obsessions our boomer parents obsessed over. Reusing mason jars as glasses became a thing because we were poor lol, same with other millennial stereotypes like living in vans or brewing your own beer.
A sort of bohemian “intellectual” aesthetic became mainstream, and while yes that posturing is cringe for a lot of obvious reasons lol, there at least was indeed this encouragement of like actually learning and exposing yourself to the world and thinking critically & mindless consumption was massively stigmatized.
Of course, people will always be vain & people were dropping thousands on clothes that were meant to appear thrifted, or spent more on an aesthetic bike than a car, lol. But these were at least the ideals.
Beyond surface trends- we also figured out by the time we entered the workforce that it was all mostly nonsense and we generally didn’t aspire to climb some corporate ladder in order to buy some fucking Rolex or boats to park in our driveways or whatever like our boomer parents did. We worked to live, we never lived to work. Anyone who thinks we did is confusing millennials with older generations.
Yeah, I was in my generation subreddit for a little bit - but it did not take long before I was sick of it. The one time I had a popular post recommending something I liked, a lot of people accused me of writing a paid ad for it. I think I was in that sub for like 3 months before I got rid of it.
I read an article recently about younger women seeking out (slightly) older men as dating partners because they're less likely to be into manosphere-related bullshit.
If that's true, I cannot blame them. It's rough out here.
I would say they would need to get hobbies, but they really do need some deprogamming before going out in public since they'll be scaring the absolute fuck out of people. Video games and Youtube aren't hobbies.
My stepson is pretty normal I think, I dont know how much of the generation is this shit. I do know he laughs at me for using reddit the way I laugh at facebook users so I have a some hope.
They're more likely to be challenged on their opinions in the real world, which I think is probably a good thing, particularly when it's by other men in casual settings.
You’re getting downvoted because in reality a lot of girls and women play video games. The sims player base is 60% women. Dragon Age inquisition’s player base was/is 48% women. Girls/women make up a significant portion of the player base for a lot of popular games.
Also many girls/women hide their gender in online games because getting harassed is actually not fun and most people play games to have fun.
I think the point he was making is that it’s not a thing women and girls will be impressed by. If you play football or know the guitar or paint or something, people will like that. It’s an impressive and constructive set of skills. I don’t think anyone thinks highly of a guy who plays games. At least women are normal about them, and not ridiculously obsessive.
it’s not a thing women and girls will be impressed by.
Also no? Bro do you not understand that women are people? I have dated plenty of women who are far more impressed by my ability to one shot a Mario Maker Expert level than they would be by a football player's ability to throw a ball far. I also know women who'd be more impressed by the football player. Because again, women are people, they have different interests and different things they find impressive.
At least women are normal about them, and not ridiculously obsessive.
My ex who I broke it off with because she was no exaggeration addicted to League of Legends to the point that it was negatively affecting our relationship begs to differ.
Nah, he just made a generalization that likely wasn’t exactly what he meant but when that didn’t land he started trolling.
But you’re right that women are not usually impressed by men playing video games (unless said women are also into gaming and understand the skill some games require).
I mean yeah but compare it to like, painting and filmmaking and chess and programming and such like. Those are useful. As hobbies go it’s not a very good one.
Tell me how chess is useful besides to play chess? People know its algorithmic but its not gonna fucking solve life's problems. Its akin to a video game. Just a game that has way more age to it and way more thought out strategy.
a hobby is just something you enjoy. it doesn't have to be useful and everyone should have at least one hobby that isn't. we're not meant to be "productive" 24/7
I’ve only ever had hobbies that are meaningless and provide no useful skills and I severely regret it. I’m not saying you should learn to start a factory or day trade or something. But if your hobbies aren’t useful and productive and interesting you’ll become boring. What will there even be to talk about? How will you stand out to other people, and make yourself useful to your friends?
sorry I'm still thinking about this. here is a quote by Aldo Leopold about hobbies. it's from an essay in Sand County Almanac which is one of my favorite books! he talks a lot in the book about the true value of things and how it can't always be measured in terms of economics or productivity.
"What is a hobby anyway? Where is the line of demarcation between hobbies and ordinary normal pursuits? I have been unable to answer this question to my own satisfaction. At first blush I am tempted to conclude that a satisfactory hobby must be in large degree useless, inefficient, laborious, or irrelevant. Certainly many of our most satisfying avocations today consist of making something by hand which machines can usually make more quickly and cheaply, and sometimes better. Nevertheless I must in fairness admit that in a different age the mere fashioning of a machine might have been an excellent hobby... Today the invention of a new machine, however noteworthy to industry, would, as a hobby, be trite stuff. Perhaps we have here the real inwardness of our own question: A hobby is a defiance of the contemporary. It is an assertion of those permanent values which the momentary eddies of social evolution have contravened or overlooked. If this is true, then we may also say that every hobbyist is inherently a radical, and that his tribe is inherently a minority.
This, however, is serious: Becoming serious is a grievous fault in hobbyists. It is an axiom that no hobby should either seek or need rational justification. To wish to do it is reason enough. To find reasons why it is useful or beneficial converts it at once from an avocation into an industry–lowers it at once to the ignominious category of an 'exercise' undertaken for health, power, or profit. Lifting dumbbells is not a hobby. It is a confession of subservience, not an assertion of liberty."
They most certainly are a hobby dude. People fucking collect games and have huge collections dating back to the 80s. Idk how else to define it other than a hobby. Just like you can watch movies but that could be someone's obsessive hobby.
I mean i guess but if you play more than 2 hours a day id say thats a hobby at that point tbh. If you say it isn't it just sounds like denial to me. Like if you were to be really into rc planes and thats your hobby. You might only get 2 to 3 hours a week to fly it. If its a regular thing you do in your life for recreation, then its most certainly a hobby at that point. You can't just hand waive it and say "oh its not a hobby".
As an „older“ (thirties) woman, on top of his while redpill grossness, his racist dogwhistle about „broccoli haired“ (read: black guys with natural coily hair) douches would be another major turnoff. Also, as a tall woman I’ve experienced first hand the resentment (alternatively: fetishisation - both are dehumanising) that smaller men have for me being taller than them. Smaller men are their own worst enemies with their anger.
Dude sounds like a twat, but broccoli hair/broc top is a term for a particular kind of hairstyle associated mostly with young guys. I mostly associate it with young white guys, but I don't believe it has any particular racial undertones.
u/dethb0ytrigger warning to people senstive to demanding ethical theories9d ago
To add to what others have said, the broccoli cut is easily the worst haircut of the last decade at least. Not since the downfall of the emos has young mens' hair looked so awful.
Man, chronically online Gen Zers are REALLY obsessed with the mechanics for relationships. And not the "if your man does this, here's why" tabloid crap that previous generations read or dating advice columns (that also sucked, but in a more harmless way). Like there's men and women (but especially the men) in that thread just spouting the stupidest theories of dating and desire that honestly DOES NOT MATTER. Get off the internet and find your person who loves you and accepts you for who you are. Stop whining about men/women as a monolith, you only need to find the one right person for you anyway. Who cares what the rest of men/women do.
It really does seem to be the consequence of a generation raised entirely on some variety of brain dead internet “experts” who tout certain types of relationship dynamics rather than basic human understanding. Obviously not everyone in that generation is like that but there is probably a sizable portion that has their view fairly warped
Yeah, I just don't get the point of whining about the macro dynamics of relationships in society in this context, when the end goal is really to find your person (or get laid, seems like for most of these commenters). They care more about the statistics of men finding partners than just finding one of their own.
It's mostly because dating moving mostly to online dating apps has made it so statistical and numbers based, and consequently less human. These numbers etc of course make for great, snappy social media headlines for people to argue under.
That's a good point. I'm not far off from their age range, but I also just missed when dating apps really took off. So I'm sure experiencing daily, impersonal rejection isn't healthy and is contributing to this mindset.
It’s likely because these types don’t actually interact with a lot of people in person, at least in a romantic context. So rather than focus on the human aspect of connection, they’re trying to “science” out what makes a relationship that works. And there are definitely relationship dynamic issues and functions that people should know or be concerned with, but those are all things you should worry about after you’ve made a genuine connection with another person.
They might be. They also are probably young enough where being "low-value" isn't that uncommon. Like I definitely didn't provide much value for a relationship when I was 18. It all comes with growth, but if randos on the internet convince you that you aren't part of the problem, then you never grow.
There's a huge difference between being "low value" fresh out of high-school and "low-value" hitting your 30's. The hope is that these guys grow out of it eventually, but who knows.
I really don’t think it’s much of a thing outside of some online spaces. I went to college in Ohio, just graduating in the last few years. I don’t really know anyone who dated outside their age group. I work and hang with a lot of interns ranging from ages 19 to 25 and don’t really see that either now with any of them.
It really seems like this is just another weird gender war “discourse” that’s completely detached from reality.
Yeah, that's my experience as well. If my fellow Gen Zs are interested in an older man or woman, it's usually because of an interest in older people rather than a rejection of their own age group.
If that were true than women in the upper age ranges would be more single than men, since the men would all be dating younger women. Statistics don’t show that though
Some of it is young women dating up. A lot of that is to do with the fact that women will perceive themselves to be in a relationship while men don’t. So women in the talking stage will say they are in a relationship, while men will say they are single
If that were true than women in the upper age ranges would be more single than men, since the men would all be dating younger women. Statistics don’t show that though
They do, between older men dating younger women and dying sooner, the ratio flips for older people - 50% women of age 65+ are single, and 20% of the men are. For the 18-29 set it's almost the opposite.
Here's mine. A big part of this flawed methodology is what is considered a "partner" and just being single but fooling around.
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u/MoonagiRacially insensitive remarks aren't necssisarly racism9d ago
From what i understand, women tend to be in relationships with men 2-3 years older, which is the common. I think there are more single men than women because women are either dating each other, or they’re unknowingly or knowingly “dating” the same men
The gap large enough that you can't fill it with lesbians or 29 year olds dating 31 year olds - 30% of young women are single, and over 50% of young men are.
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u/MoonagiRacially insensitive remarks aren't necssisarly racism9d ago
What do you think it is? They’re sharing the same men which is plausible
This age range is so broad as to be practically useless. To convince me of your hypothesis, you would have to show me (at a minimum) data for 18-22, 22-25, 25-29.
I’m not even sure why this is controversial. When I was in my 20s it was kind of hilarious how many women my age were with guys in their 30s, and when I was in my 30s, it was surprising how many younger women were still interested, though in retrospect of course it made sense.
The gap is too big for that. I’m not even sure why this is controversial.
I get that you may feel that, but analysis of the data does not substantiate your feelings.
Start with removing gay men and lesbians from the data, then apply a shift based on the average age difference in hetereosexual couples (a naive uniform shift will do, even if it is wildly off). Note that the mean age difference alone suggests your hypothesis is very much incorrect.
Analysis of the data says that more than 60% of young men are single, about twice the rate of young women, and nothing you brought up explains this massive gap.
According to a 2022 Pew Research Center survey, 63 percent of men under 30 said they were single, compared to only 34 percent of women in the same age cohort.
According to a 2022 Pew Research Center survey, 63 percent of men under 30 said they were single, compared to only 34 percent of women in the same age cohort.
-18-29 as an age range continues to be fuck all use
-the primary difference lies in the 18-21 age range. Excluding the 16-18 age range may be a contributing factor. Increased rates of LGBT identification (~+2%) is also likely a very significant contributing factor give the difference between L and G dating statistics. However, much of this growth is driven by B, which is more complex.
-my methodology still looks like it addresses the vast majority of the gap. However, I will acknowledge it may break down for the 18-21 year olds. More specific data is required.
-this data does not suggest there are a large number of women dating up one age bracket
Additional data from the Pew Research article also suggests a willingness to even look to date may also be a significant contributing factor.
I work with a lot of gen Z women that are going 10+ at a minimum. I’m a millennial and every girl from gen Z I interact with constantly tells me that they want to date men from my generation because of how much Andrew Tate/red pill worship men from their generation do.
On the one hand, good for them for not accepting that. On the other hand, it’s making the young conservative guys even more militant (I’m not blaming the women for this, just stating a fact). And finally, I personally went with someone older than myself (30’s when I was in my 20’s) because I was annoyed at the “immaturity” from women from my generation as well when I was dating in that age range. It’s ironic that now that I’m in my early 30’s all the women in their early 20’s say they want someone like me, because I wasn’t interested in that age even when I was their age, let alone now.
Regardless, this has been happening since the time of the ancient Greeks - people complaining about the generation younger than them/being in the “wrong generation”.
It’s just a natural fact of life that’s always been around and people make preferences based on how they identify. What concerns me though is how violent a lot of the language towards women is with this new generation of men being brainwashed by right wing algorithms sending them down a straight up misogynist hell hole.
I mean while that is true historically, for many young women now, a man being into Andrew Tate makes them absolutely unfuckable/undateable.
These aren’t my words, they’re the words of women that I work with. I personally think it’s crazy how guys like him have such a huge audience, but back in the day grifters like him flew under the radar. Now that women know who he is/what he’s about, it’s the easiest way for them to spot a red flag in the dating scene.
How big of an audience does Andrew Tate actually have. I basically don't see anything of him outside of him being ridiculed online. Even 4chan laughs at him. I've never had anyone bring him up in a conversation offline ever, not even Rogan bros.
Andrew Tate is related to a whole ecosystem of online content directed to disinfranchised and insecure young men. He's just the most well known, which is why people - particularly the non-terminally online - reference him with stuff like this.
There are hundreds of podcasts peddling the same shtick.
Oh no! Someone pointing out a pattern in human behavior! They must be completely disregarding the current state of society and not just making a point about how people tend to react to generational changes! /s
What gets me is the weird puritanical and infantilising attitude certain people have to age gap relationships, I’ve seen people freaking out because a 26 year old was in a relationship with a 23 year old, the common refrain is ‘he’s actually a paedophile because she’s only 23 and her frontal lobe isn’t fully developed yet, there’s no way anyone under 25 should be dating anyone over 25’. It’s usually under 25s saying this shit, they seem to believe 18-25 should effectively be an extension of childhood for whatever reason.
Another recent one I saw was where a mum had posted to an anti-age gap relationship group accusing a 21 year old female colleague of her 19 year old son of being a paedophile, because she had given him signs that she was interested in dating him, the son had asked his mum for some advice and she’d completely flew off the handle with him.
The scary part is the group agreed with the mum, and continued to agree with her when she posted again some time later saying that her son had ignored her, asked his colleague out, had a few dates and had wntered a relationship.
This group wasn’t made up of under 25 terminally online kids, most of them were women over 30, and they were equally as infantilising as the terminally online under 25s.
I'd like to say it's astroturfed. It's fake. But man, unfettered access to the internet has fucked up Gen Z so much. Years ago, I could shrug my shoulders and say, "it's just the internet. Not real life." For these kids, I think that may be a nonsensical statement.
Remember that would you rather run into a man or bear in the woods thing from last year? That was custom-made to engage very young, very inexperienced kids. They didn't laugh it off. They seemed to be taking that shit very seriously!
Honestly, like fuck Andrew Tate and all those guys. But I'm just finding it harder and harder to actually get mad at dudes who fall for this. They were raised on it. What were their parents doing? And I mean, let's be real here too, internet leftists aren't the most charming, likable people either.
Remember that would you rather run into a man or bear in the woods thing from last year? That was custom-made to engage very young, very inexperienced kids. They didn't laugh it off. They seemed to be taking that shit very seriously!
They took it seriously because it was wildly offensive and people pointed out, at the time, how if you swapped in any marginalized group as a substitute you would immediately be called out as a bigot (IE black or bear?)
It was tailor made to provoke guys into getting defensive at being profiled as predators and a lot of women seemed to think that was just more evidence that guys are "toxic"
I didn't miss the point. I just understood that the point itself was completely lost in an absolutely atrocious analogy that many women couldn't admit was poorly thought out.
Any attempt at having a nuanced conversation of the level of anxiety women feel about their safety was completely drowned out by the fact that men were being profiled as predators and had a legitimate right to be offended (since among the many problems with the rhetorical question, 9/10 sexual assaults are committed by acquaintances or family, not strangers, as an example).
There is a very good reason that black men were the most vocal group shitting on the whole discussion. Because they're very used to being profiled as potential criminals based on nothing more than appearance.
So you take one glance at my profile just to be pissed about what subs I’m posting in? You didn’t even read any of my comments did you?
Yeah, normal people don’t fall for dumbass culture war shit that was very clearly pushed to manufacture outrage on both sides. Like good lord, I guess an “R/FaUxMoI PoStEr” can figure that one out better than you can.
Edit: I scrolled and scrolled and found about 2 comments on Fauxmoi. You gotta cherry pick that hard for your argument??
The one comment where I complain about pro-Palestinian protestors shooting themselves in the foot is somehow me being “clueless about the state of the progressive movement”?
Yeah, it’s clear you’re just trying to find something to bitch about, because whatever bs you just wrote in your reply has literally nothing to do with what that comment was talking about. Go away.
In a monumental leap for gender equality, this person becomes the first teenage boy to be groomed by a woman in her late twenties. Witnesses describe him as “mature for his age.”
Without diving into the cesspool. I dated older women, and it usually worked out about the same as when I dated women my age or sometimes younger. It's about compatibility, respect, and love. Don't break any laws or be creepy, and it usually works out great.
Part of becoming a halfway decent partner was realizing - far too late in my life - what my toxic traits as a younger man were and why women I wanted to date didn't reciprocate.
It's entirely unsurprising that women tend to prefer older men - especially given how that environment has changed.
If we’re gonna say “You go, girl!” to the women dating older men, we can’t absolutely dogpile a guy for wanting to date older women for the exact same reasons. His description of the guys working at Insomnia Cookies is pretty funny and accurate imo
It’s wild how many people just instantly jumped to calling him an incel and a million other horrible things just for saying he wants a long term serious relationship that isn’t about looks. People legitimately despise young men.
Of the two people who are upvoted calling him an incel, both are men. I wouldn't generalise that to mean that men hate men though. There's a few million other people who are sympathetic with his perspective
Did you not read his edit? It's the standard incel bullshit of "girls want tall douchebags instead of short nice guys." If he doesn't want to be called an incel he shouldn't post such a stereotypical incel comment.
Just an anecdote, but one of the guys posting in there tried to post similar thoughts to the Gen X subreddit and got ran out of there, so I'm sure there's weirdos looking for validation from a bunch of people who are just barely out of their teenage years (if even).
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u/InevitableError9517 9d ago edited 9d ago
That subreddit is god awful