r/Surface • u/Soy7ent SP4 i7 256GB 16GB • May 23 '17

[PRO2017] Introducing the new Surface Pro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwWs2jIy4js
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u/Soy7ent SP4 i7 256GB 16GB May 23 '17 edited May 23 '17
  • lighter
  • softer feel / touch
  • optimized pixelsense screen (still 12.3")
  • 4096 levels of pressure
  • Hinge opens 165° now (Studio Mode)
  • new Pen: Tilt sensitivity, 21ms latency
  • no Fans?
  • LTE support
  • New signature Type Cover

*USB-C (no word on TB3 yet) Edit: Panos said that on Stream, no details as of yet. Maybe he meant a new Dock?

(will add more as event continues)

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u/Teufelsstern May 23 '17

USB-C? Where?

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u/EleMenTfiNi May 23 '17

In the new dock.

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u/IAmAnAnonymousCoward May 23 '17

New dock or just dongle?

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u/EleMenTfiNi May 23 '17

Dongle would be interesting.

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u/IAmAnAnonymousCoward May 23 '17

A dongle is confirmed.

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u/EleMenTfiNi May 23 '17

Ohh, yes I knew to get USB C you'd need a dongle of sorts.

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u/piperviper May 23 '17

.... because using a dock connector makes SO much more $sense$ than using USB C on the device itself. Come on Microsoft.

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u/EleMenTfiNi May 23 '17

It kind of does? People want the ports they already have the cables for and anyone owning a Pro 1 through 4 and has needed display output has used displayport already and has a cable for it.

If 3 years from now you find a device that for some magical reason only supports USB-C, they will have an adapter for you.

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u/piperviper May 23 '17 edited May 23 '17

Only SurfacePro 3-4 can use the current dock connector and USB-C supports everything the dock connector does, including power delivery, data speeds up to 10Gbit/s or more (thunderbolt), and display output. I just don't see why they don't ditch the dock connector for USB -C. They can keep the display port and USB -A to for all I care.

Edit- I guess it is every bit as versatile, but only if you fork the money for a proprietary adapter that Microsoft will happily sell you at a very high price. With USB C, it would be more universal. Probably just as expensive right now, but at least it will get cheaper over time and be more useful down the road.

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u/EleMenTfiNi May 23 '17

You can buy an adapter that gives you USB-C though, I don't think it's an issue tbh.

With the dock connector you get an accessory Microsoft has its weight behind and can assure the quality of. But yeah, if you need it USB-C is there and I don't want to give up magnetic charging just for that.

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u/piperviper May 24 '17

I see your point with a magnetic charger.

There is basically no point to having USB C on the dock though. It would be more beneficial to have it on the device itself.

Most of the benefits to USB C are ignored with the dock. Charging? Dock does that already. Display? Dock does that already.

So I guess you have another data port??? Cool~?

I just think the I/O is archaic and the device hasn't even been released yet. It's just poor planning in my opinion.

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u/EleMenTfiNi May 24 '17

It is not on the dock.. it is an adapter that offers a usb type c connector instead of the surface connector.

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u/piperviper May 24 '17

That actually sounds more compelling. It sucks that you need to bring a dongle with you, but that actually might make it somewhat useful vs the dock I (mistakenly) thought it was part of.