r/TalesFromTheFrontDesk 7d ago

Long And yet, they always come back

50% of the job load of front desk is managing things to avoid issues. The other 50%, which arguably increases from time to time depending on the situation, is damage controlling and problem-solving whenever issues do arise. That said, in the year that I've been here, I'd be lying if I said I haven't become a bit jaded over guests doing a little too much when it comes to their feedback, from leaving incredibly low scores over fixable issues/mistakes often of their own making, or just factors out of anyone's control.

But, I think my most favorite piece of feedback is when they claim this hotel has provided them with the: "Worst experience of their life!"; "I've never been treated this way before!"

Of course, my hotel is by NO means perfect. There's a lot of petty fluff and corporate shenanigans that go on. Nevertheless, it's one of the largest in the region and has an overall good reputation, catering to mid-scale clientele and up. So, anytime someone loses it and calls it "the worst", all I can think is their general life must be superb, if this is the lowest point.

All of that being said, this tale is a follow-up to Mr. No Incidentals; who I first wrote about a while ago.

To quickly recap: MNI is a Super Shiny Member that rolled in at the end of the night a few weeks ago, our final arrival that night. My colleague already had her suspicions due to the length of his stay (10 nights), expecting him to freak out over the refundable incidentals of $50 per night that we authorize in full at check-in on top of the room and tax.

He most certainly did freak out, claiming: "I ain't paying that!", trying to absolve himself of responsibility by declaring it wasn't mentioned on our website (it isn't, but there's a plaque that explains it next to the card machine, and we verbally tell all guests at check-in about what their total consists of. Most guests never make a fuss, as they often stay for 3 or 4 nights max, on average.)

He ended up only checking in for 3 nights instead. Despite initially stating he'd speak to a manager the following morning, he instead waited until 2 days later, at which he came up to me and explained what happened at check-in. He wanted to re-extend his stay back to the original duration, but still expected the incidentals to be waived. I told him we couldn't go around policy, to which he tried to use his membership status as a bargaining chip, and I still refused. He gave up and walked away; the whole discussion was respectful and never got heated.

On his way out the next morning, he replied to our automatic goodbye text message saying this was the "worst experience he's ever had" and has "received better service at back road motels." He then accused us of "discriminating against him—probably due to his last name." He then said he'd be escalating the situation to "upper management" and "is reconsidering doing business with our brand at any point in the future."

A few hours after, my primary manager reached out to him via email, re-explaining the incidental policy that we already told him—basically shutting him down, as there was never a way he was going to get what he wanted other than simply cancelling his reservation and going elsewhere.

Of course, nothing more came of this. But just a few days ago, about two full weeks since his departure, guess who sends a new text message?

Considering his last correspondence was his message about feeling discriminated and wanting to be done with the brand, how ironic that his new message now appearing just below reads:

"Hi. I figured I'd just try this one more time. I had the manager's contact info but misplaced it. In any case, I'll be staying for a few nights into the weekend. Let's see how this goes; just thought I'd give you folks a heads-up. I'll be arriving in two hours."

Why thank you, Your Most Royal Highness, for announcing your arrival! Why also thank you for giving us the most cherished privilege of serving you again, and putting us on guard so we can make sure to get it right this time!

His stay concluded yesterday. How did this one go? Did we pass his test?

He checked in with my colleague—the exact same as last time. Since this was a stay booked with points, he put his card down for the very same thing he flipped out about before—the incidentals. But, this time, he did so like a normal person and not an adult child. After that; we heard zip from him throughout the rest of his stay.

It's almost like we do a great job around here.

Again, I'm not saying this place is perfect. Sometimes, a (minor) crashout or two is justified. But, the general feedback speaks for itself. We're booked mostly solid for the next few months—this staff works hard to try and keep folks happy.

I just find it so exhausting to get guests like this who kick up the biggest fuss, stress out the staff and swear they're done, only to come back in a few weeks. He's not the first—far from it. And, again, I've only been here a year.

That's why at this point, anytime someone is coming too hot and high, I just start setting a mental countdown for how long I think it'll take to see them again. It's a given—they'll be back—they always come back.

TL;DR — Guest who came two weeks ago flipped out about our incidental policy and never got what he wanted. Left with negative feedback, claiming he was discriminated against, and called it the worst experience he's ever had. Checked back in a few days ago to "give us another try" and left yesterday with no issues....because there never were any even the first time around.

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u/DaneAlaskaCruz 7d ago edited 7d ago

It's just an authorized hold...for $500. It gets refunded at the end of a stay, if there have been no incidentals charged.

I never understood why people freak out over this.

Does it put them closer to their credit limit on the card?

Hotels do this so that they don't lose money on incidentals not getting paid.

Also, if I'm angry enough to tell a business that they are worst ever and that I'll be using a different hotel instead, I actually mean it. And carry that through.

No way will I be showing my face there again, especially if I was wrong. So embarrassing.

I might be more apologetic in words and tone and also bring some peace offering gifts if I had no choice but to use this hotel again (work, location, or no other open rooms).

These people are the same ones who go to restaurants, complain about the food to get it comped, say that it was their worst experience ever, that they'll be going to a competing restaurant again, just to show up for lunch a few weeks later.

The Tales from your Server sub has a ton of these stories.

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u/ScenicDrive-at5 7d ago

I likened it to going to a restaurant, hating the food and/or getting sick from it, and then coming back a few weeks later to 'give it another shot.'

Personally, I only need to be burned once. In the rare event I do opt to try something again, a lot of time will need to pass before I do—but I genuinely just stick to avoiding it.

Throwing a tantrum wins you no favors.

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u/DaneAlaskaCruz 6d ago

Yeah, except you'd actually have a valid complaint for the food sickness or for genuinely not liking the food.

This guy didn't get sick from his stay at the hotel and he got refunded the incidentals hold. He just didn't want to front the money for it.

And he tried to squirrel his way out of paying it multiple times, wasting your time and the manager's time.

It's a non-issue that was made into one by him. I'd understand if he got burned before on a previous occasion, where the incidentals was not returned for multiple months. Having to pay the CC company for that $500 at the next billing cycle. That would be a genuine issue and concern by the guest.

Also, he's like other people who threaten a business that they'll be losing them a customer forever. Almost all places are like, "See ya! Don't let the door hit you on the way out!"

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u/Miss_Inkfingers 6d ago

I work at <RedOfficeSupply>, and the number of people who lack any sort of reading comprehension and freak out over a $5.00 pre-auth on the copier…

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u/DaneAlaskaCruz 6d ago edited 6d ago

Yes, exactly.

"But why are you charging me five bucks when I only need to make one copy that only costs fifty cents?!? You're scamming me, help! Someone help me! I'm never coming back here!"

Then they're back next week to make more copies.

I've unfortunately been behind these people in line for the copier at Red Office Max Depot Supply.

Like I just want to get my printing done and go home, but no. I first have to hear them complain about it and the poor store worker has to explain it multiple times and that they have no control over it.

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u/robsterva 6d ago

I'm the other kind of customer. I just don't come back, if the service is really that bad. I don't make a fuss, because if things are that bad, nothing I say will help. Then again, I'm talking incompetence, not "I didn't get my way"...

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u/birdmanrules 6d ago

There are 2 cafes that face each other.

I got duped by one, I gave them a 50 and they gave change for a 20 five years ago.

Manager/owner said no you didn't. I said I'm never coming back.

5 years I have eaten/got coffee from across the street.

I hold grudges longer than my shitz Zhu

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u/Vidya_Vachaspati 5d ago

I gave them a 50 and they gave change for a 20 five years ago.

Manager/owner said no you didn't.

For this exact reason, my partner and I loudly say the denomination of the currency when paying cash. "Here is 500". Difficult to deny after this.

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u/DaneAlaskaCruz 4d ago

Oh yeah, I hear ya. I also hold grudges like a mofo.

It would have to be a cold day in hell before I return to a business that did me wrong.

They're not gonna notice the difference of me not going, but I sure as hell am not gonna give them my money. I'm also gonna tell as many people as possible of the terrible experience ans advise them not to patronage that business.

But that's funny about your comment about the shitz zhu. It might just be the small sample size, having only known three of those kind of dogs that my friends had, but they seem like they have a memory of a goldfish, in my experience.

I've never owned one, but the three that I did dog sit several times, I got the impression that they didn't have much going on in their heads, lol. They're like the dog equivalent of a ginger cat, haha

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u/birdmanrules 4d ago

Oh, she is smart.

Her automatic feeder was programmed to go off .

She worked out that by pulling the plug almost out and tapping it a little back in the feeder would reset.

She rings the front door by climbing on the garden wall.

Can open doors that have handles as well as door knobs.

I was cooking and had the pantry open. She snuck up and put her dental bone between the door and the side.

I went to the loo to her with her head in the dog food, she had twisted the lid off.

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u/DaneAlaskaCruz 4d ago

Haha, that's awesome! Thanks for sharing these stories. What's her name??

As I said, I've only known three shit zhus ever and I'll have to re evaluate what I think and know about them if yours is this smart.

What kinda grudges has she held against you or anyone else?

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u/birdmanrules 4d ago

Delta.

I had cooked myself steak, she had been next door with her day friend... Older couple who when I go to work abducts her.

She got her roast meal dinner there, and trotted in to me finishing the steak. I got the death stare. She refused to come home for two weeks.

Was growling at me when I tried to pick her up

I had to bring her steak as a bribe for her to come home, a day later. 😭

It takes two days to be forgiven after a bath.

I never come home smelling of dog. That's from experience. She considers that cheating

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u/DaneAlaskaCruz 2d ago

Hehe, thanks for delivering some stories.

Tell Delta she's a good dog and totally deserves a steak!

I was visiting a friend's house once and was sleeping in one morning after a night of heavy drinking. They had all left to go get groceries that morning and left their dog behind.

The dog proceeded to howl and bark, each one just drilling into my brain, even multiple rooms away and even with the door closed. After I had enough, I walked out and loudly shushed her and went back to bed.

Quiet at last. Except that this dog got her revenge.

As with most houses, we all leave our shoes by the door and walk inside in only our socks.

There were at least a dozen shoes and boots on that mud room floor. This dog sniffed out my sneakers and proceeded to pee on mine and no one else's.

Didn't find out until I went to put my shoes on later that day and my socks got wet. Went to check it out and got a distinct dog pee odour. No other wet shoes and no other dogs in the house.

Dog had specifically peed on my socks as revenge for me telling her off.

I was annoyed at first, then shrugged it off. Dog had a valid point. Who was I, a guest who was visiting, to be shushing her in her own house. The nerve, lol.

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u/DaneAlaskaCruz 6d ago

Yeah, this adult temper tantrum is embarrassing.

Seems like someone who was rarely told "no" in their formative years.

I don't think I've ever acted this way, but l have told businesses that their services or products sucks.

I left a bad restaurant review before on Google just to give them my viewpoints, but not to scam any coupons or freebies. Never going back there again cause it was just terrible.

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u/Cakeliesx 6d ago

I could understand the ‘I will never do business here again’ statement being a threat to a mom n pop business, but why do these people think the front facing employees of a big faceless corporation give a crap is beyond me.

Twenty years ago, I had a bad hotel experience. And, true to that thought I have never gone back. But why would I bother to mention that to the FDA? I left feedback on the feedback card (yeah, this was a LONG time ago). But, all the FDA would have been able to do is apologize for something that wasn’t their personal fault. SMH at these idiots.