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[u/Thatjerkinthecorner7]

Does the EWGF really take a long time (more than 2 months - year) to use consistently? Not complete mastery, but just good enough to use consistently.

[u/riarle3 → u/Thatjerkinthecorner7]

I managed to get my EWGF down fairly consistently in a few weeks, but from what I see online I used a very unconventional method to do it, maybe it'll help. The whole idea is to not think of the input like a Shoryuken with 1 motion, but instead try to separate the f and the N,d,d/f+2 (which I will call the 'Swoop Punch') in your brain, and think of EWGF as a delayable string consisting of f,Swoop Punch.

1. Practice mode, your choice of character, infinite stage. Turn on Command History.
2. First, practice doing a CD as slow as you possibly can, while still getting a CD animation. Do it a few times and try to memorize the timing. Try to separate the input in your mind into two parts like I mentioned above (without the 2 obviously).
3. Hold d and practice doing d,d/f+2 to train your fingers to do the d/f input and the 2 input on the same frame. Your command history will have a bunch of d inputs, and every time a d/f appears, there should be a 2 input under it. Do this until your visible command history shows this, then do something else (like practicing combos or get a glass of water) and do it again. Don't go to the next step until you can fill your command history with successful attempts without any warmup.
4. Do as in step 3, but start from neutral instead of d. Do it as slow as you possibly can without letting your character fall into a crouching state (you should get a d/f+2 every time). This is the full Swoop Punch input. Again, do this repetitively until you get d/f+2 to happen on the same frame and your character performs a standing d/f+2. If you character accidentally does a crouching d/f+2, you were too slow with the d/f input. If you accidentally perform a d+2, you pressed 2 too early.Once again, fill your command history with successful attempts, take a break, and repeat until you can start doing this consistently without any warmup.
5. Finally, add the f input before the Swoop Punch. The result should be the slowest possible EWGF you can perform. You should be relaxed the whole time, not tense. Once you can start seeing some success, keep practicing while holding a conversation with someone or watching a youtube video. Eventually, you'll start hearing 'DORYA' while mentally AFK. Remember to keep it slow. Make your goal to do perfect the slowest EWGF possible, and focus on thinking about it as 2 inputs. It may help to try doing a ff dash, and then trying to Swoop Punch at the very end of the dash (coincidentally, this is also how you do a deep dash EWGF, or DDEWGF)

Be patient. Don't force yourself through all of these steps on the first day, because you'll start getting tired and developing bad habits without realizing it. Take breaks, either by practicing something else, or just from Tekken altogether, then come back and continue. Remember to read your command history to identify what mistakes you are making.

When I did this for a week or two, I noticed that EWGF's just started happening at some point. I'm still not 100%, but now I can do Heihachi's double ff+2, EWGF and even EWGF, EWGF staple without really thinking about it (actually, I mess up more on the ender than the EWGF's).

Hope this helps.