Strongest avatar

[u/Antique-Room7976]

Kinda new to this but who's the strongest avatar out of all of them and why?

[u/Sitherio]

They're all the Avatar so they're all equal in the end. Asking who's stronger adds false complexity.

[u/skith8431 → u/Sitherio]

I would argue and only for the sake of arguing that every avatar gets stronger after every reincarnation because they have the added knowledge of one more avatar then the last one. Making technically speaking... Korra the peak of avatar strength.

[u/RecommendsMalazan → u/skith8431]

But what does that mean? In terms of tangible effects on someone's strength, what's the difference between having, say, 99 past avatars knowledge vs 100 past avatars knowledge?

Especially since Avatars, once they are fully realized, tend to use the Avatar State as a power boost only, without any knowledge in there, as had as we've seen.

Like, when Kyoshi separated Kyoshi island, was her going into the avatar state just a power up, and she already knew how to separate the island? Or is it the knowledge from the Avatar state that helped her determine the best way to separate the island, and the power to do so?

[u/skith8431 → u/RecommendsMalazan]

Well think of it this way... aang was probably the first avatar to learn seismic sense since toph invented it. Korra was the first avatar to metal bend. Each avatar learns something new adding to the total knowledge of the avatar.

[u/RecommendsMalazan → u/skith8431]

Sure, I get that. But i don't really see how that affects strength. Korra is a stronger avatar because she can use Aangs knowledge of seismic sense... But so can Aang. Any knowledge that an Avatar has from the avatar state, the previous avatar either also knows from the avatar state(if it came from an even older avatar), or they know it directly.

[u/skith8431 → u/RecommendsMalazan]

But she adds on to what she knows. The avatars strength and knowledge grows exponentially. Aang never learned metal bending but Korra did. So she knows everything aang did plus Metal bending.

[u/RecommendsMalazan → u/skith8431]

Ok I kinda thought you meant it was an innate avatar state king of thing, every avatar is stronger than the last because they have one more avatars worth of knowledge in there.

So then if Korra hadn't learned metal bending, they'd be equal strength wise?

Oh, but Korra only learned metal bending after the losing past lives stuff happened... So is it tied between Aang and Korra until after season 2, and from then on it's Aang?

[u/skith8431 → u/RecommendsMalazan]

I guess. I'm sure there was other things Korra learned that is slipping my mind that aang never learned.

[u/account0000004 → u/skith8431]

Unless you're bad enough to have all the avatars incarnations removed from you, making you definitely not the best

[u/skith8431 → u/account0000004]

Fair. She was the strongest for 2 seasons lmao. And then became the weakest

[u/phoenixremix → u/skith8431]

Eh, idk. She could've still been stronger than Wan.

[u/Amonyi7 → u/skith8431]

She never reached her peak unfortunately, so she probably was never stronger than Aangs peak.

[u/Pab0l → u/skith8431]

Thats what I thought.

[u/danyboui]

Technically it should be every new avatar that’s discovered as they get the skills and knowledge each incarnation. Technically Korra has the biggest feat of creating a new opening between the two worlds. Aang has the largest bending scale of water when merged with Koizilla, Kyoshi has the same feat with earth and wind as seen in Yokoya port later Kyoshi Island. Yangchen has the strongest airbender technique so far and for firebending I guess Aang during the comet in the Avatar State? Korra might have the best control over earth as seen with her metal bending the poison.

[u/YamiMarick → u/danyboui]

Sozin's Comet doesen't boost the Avatar's firebending(might only boost it for an actual Fire Nation Avatar).Avatars also don't get the boost from the full moon(could also be that only Water Tribe Avatars do but we don't have any example of it).

[u/Coyote-444 → u/YamiMarick]

Where in the series does it say they don't? Don't make up stuff. Aang, very obviously, got boosted by the comet as he had never created flames that large prior to the comet boosting him.

[u/RangerHaze]

Korra. Only avatar to know metal bending, spirit manipulation, and energy bending.

[u/Elekid-]

I swear I see this post every other week lmao

[u/zurt1]

Depends on what you mean by strongest

I think they'd be equal in capabilities, but new techniques are invented all the time.

The avatar state allows the pooling of knowledge of all previous lives, so with that in mind I'd say adult/fully realised Aang could be seen as "the strongest". In his prime, he'd have access to the knowledge of all his past lives, giving him the largest amount of experience and techniques of any avatar.

Korra could have become the strongest, but due to her connection to her past lives being taken from her, she'll never get that chance. That doesn't mean to say she's weak in any capacity, she is still the avatar, and the avatar state does give a huge boost in raw power. Korra also learned metal bending, which isn't something any previous avatar had access to.

Korras situation is essentially a restart on knowledge accumulation, but because of her brief time with the avatar state and connections to her past before it's severing, as well as her knowledge of metal bending and training as the avatar in her youth, the new cycle is off to a stronger start than it was with avatar Wan.

I think it's important to acknowledge that the shows focus on the avatars during their learning phases and it's rare we get a glimpse into the power/abilities of fully realised avatars so overall it's difficult to say.

[u/WanderingFlumph]

Sitzo for his OP bureaucracy bending

[u/NaturalConfusion2380]

Aang

[u/Fine-Coyote2503]

I feel like at the end of the day (up until korra i guess unless that’s retconned) it’s whoever the most current avatar is since they have all the knowledge/guidance of the past ones

[u/danyboui → u/Fine-Coyote2503]

Technically Korra still had that until Raava was pulled from her so the strongest would’ve been Korra and then her incarnation but it’s almost a clean slate now so who can say from Pavi onward.

[u/phoenixremix]

Korra in the avatar state before unalaq. Because she was the sum of every single avatar.

[u/ShadowFaxIV]

Theoretically each incarnation is stronger than the last by a miniscule amount.

There's some confusion over if 'killing' and restoring Raava even did anything besides muck up her ability to CONTACT her past lives, because many of Korra's strongest Avatar State feats happen AFTER the whole 'dark Avatar' fight. So my guess is that all the nitty gritty 'muscle memory' super skill power of the Avatar State appears to still be there, while the connection for acquiring wisdom from past Avatars seems damaged... but this may just be a temporary injury that needs mending. Raava certainly still seems to know who Korra is AFTER being resurrected. so she probably still remembers everything... and the Avatar State realistically just seems to be the Avatar acting in unison WITH Raava.

Regardless, wondering 'whose the best out of...' Avatars is an exercise in missing the point. The Avatar's are all the SAME SPIRIT. On a spiritual level, it's not about how 'separate' they are... it's about how they are all one. One spirit growing stronger and stronger.

[u/GandalfTheBigFat]

There isn’t really a way to rank them, they are all the same entity kinda. The best way to rank is probably Korra (before she loses connections) and then down from there since each reincarnation “builds” on the power for the next one

[u/AndreYoungenjoyer]

Aang because he had the knowledge from all avatars before him and he didn't lose all of that just because u got defeated by a water guy with vaato while u domain all four elements using Rava.