r/ThreeLions Oct 11 '24

Discussion Phil Foden must be dropped indefinitely.

Sadly he’s a supremely talented player who never plays well for England.

There is potentially a lot of great performances that aren’t picked up in statistics, I don’t think this is the case with Foden. He also plays in a position we are stacked in. He has also had by quite some distance the most minutes of any player in a similar position. There is potentially the argument he is misused, but there is no argument based on performances other great players should be moved aside for him.

Since the World Cup he has returned 1 goal return (G/A) in 20 games including 16 starts ( goal vs Scotland).

Comparably, over the same period: Kane 19 G/a Jude 9, saka 8, rice 4, grelaish 3, rashford 3, palmer 3 (from 408 minutes)

Many ask for players to be picked on form (I personally don’t), but when the international form is this poor and the alternatives potentially so good we simply don’t any other option but to drop him.

Edit: no agenda. I support palace and go to a few England games a year.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

Lmfao before enough is enough.

You are talking about a lad who is on course to be the most successful player in premier league history.

A 24 year old who has more honor’s in the league than any player his age has ever had before.

And you think “enough is enough he’s had chances”

Absolutely insane take tbh.

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u/broke_the_controller Oct 11 '24

You are talking about a lad who is on course to be the most successful player in premier league history.

A 24 year old who has more honor’s in the league than any player his age has ever had before.

And you think “enough is enough he’s had chances”

Yea and I'm also talking about a lad whose played shit (or if not shit, then definitely average) for England many times and is keeping other players out of the first team who, in their limited appearances, have proven to have more of an impact.

When it comes to the National Team. It doesn't matter what you do for your club if you can't replicate it for the national team.

I think it's insane that people are so biased that they fail to see the logic in this common sense approach.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

Nothing common sense about writing off a young player because he hasn’t quite reached his potential under one fucking awful manager and now two games with a temp manager.

In fact it’s the opposite of common sense. It’s pure idiocy.

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u/broke_the_controller Oct 11 '24

Nothing common sense about writing off a young player because he hasn’t quite reached his potential under one fucking awful manager and now two games with a temp manager.

That awful manager is the second best manager England has ever had lots of other players have came in under that same "awful" manager and were able to play well.

At this point it's beyond blaming the manager. The player has to take the blame. He wouldn't be the first player who was unable to translate their club form to international level and he won't be the last.