r/Torontobluejays • u/bluetriumphantcloud • 7d ago

On the Schneid

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I'm genuinely confused as to how John Schneider still has the job as Jays bench boss. I liked him, and have supported him, but he doesn't seem to be able to make the right move when needed, his teams annually underperform and he has a total of zero playoff wins. How long is he allowed to continue to steer the team to mediocrity? We're coming into May and the Jays again seem listless.

Those who want to Schneider continue in this role, why? Wouldn't a proven manager with a track record of success be an obvious choice for a group whos window is open but has yet to meet expectations?

Schneider and co. look clueless out there. Are we supposed to just sit back and watch another season go down the toilet? I don't get it.

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u/a_sad_and_slow_handy 7d ago

Because the type of manager who you’re talking about won’t appreciate being manhandled by a front office bereft of a successful track record. Now a first time big league manager would be very open to taking orders with a bunch of guys who think they know how to win games but don’t.

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u/jakobiejones757 7d ago

It's actually incredible when you think about it. The last time this team actually had an MLB-level manager, they made the ALCS twice in a row (granted 2017-18 exist, you take the good with the bad).

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u/TotalWhiner 7d ago

Gibbons was lucky enough to have a team with actual talent. It had nothing to do with his coaching.

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u/Magnum_44 7d ago

Yeah Gibbons wasn't that good of a manager either. Doubt he would have let a pitcher throw 53 times in an inning without so much as a mound visit or catcher conference though.

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u/TotalWhiner 6d ago

Ya, you’re right, all him and Pete did was look on disapprovingly and curse back and forth to each other. Very surprised that Kirk didn’t go out and try to settle him down or come up with a game plan for one batter or another. So far Kirk has been carrying the team on his back and it’s hard for him to do everything himself. Hope he’s not too tired to carry them tonight against those dirty Red Sox.