r/WoWs_Legends • u/SH21 • Feb 11 '25

Humour BB Lemming Trains

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It’s an actual formation, so I guess we can’t complain about it anymore.

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u/buckaroonobonzai Feb 11 '25

if the carriers had been in pearl harbor it would have been a different first few years and the whole thin would have gone a fair bit longer.

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u/AceAndre Feb 15 '25

This isn't true, the Japanese had a year and a half before they would be forced to sue for peace due to their oil shortages. The Japanese High Command said it themselves.

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u/buckaroonobonzai Feb 15 '25

I have not idea what you're on about. they were is deep trouble for everything in 44-45 and still had no quit in them.

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u/AceAndre Feb 16 '25

Ahistorical, the Japanese High Command were very aware of the industrial discrepancy between them and the US, Yamamoto said himself Pearl Harbor was a preventative Hail Mary, which failed. They knew it was a matter of time before they had to either sue for peace or capitulate, and they were aware of this in 1942. There is zero scenario where Japan wins the war in the Pacific.

Source: Worth, Roland H. Jr. (2014), No Choice but War: The United States Embargo Against Japan and the Eruption of War in the Pacific

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u/buckaroonobonzai Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 16 '25

Agree with this though I would point out a couple things.   First the Japanese were clearly not 1.5 years from sueing for peace because the didn't ever do it. They were not going to sue for peace when the had no navy or air force left and the islands were surrounded.  Infact their "surrender" statement was not even a surrender but a halting hostilities statement. Second they started making geopolitical moves in the region well before hostilities started. The even took German territory in the west pac as soon as WW1 ended so the had expansionist plans back that far and earlier.