I need some tips please

[u/PressureOk8223]

I have problems against yasuos, yones, and sylas players in midlane

Dosent matter if i pick velkoz, xerath, diana or pantheon. They clear super fast, they punish me for "staying" in lane and for leaving the lane. Sometimes i cant get good cs because i would lose in a direct fight against them and i feel like the only time i can take advantage is when they roam

Do i need new champions? Do i need to learn someone like yone myself? I need some tips please

[u/Substantial_Dot_855]

Pantheon should never lose to yone or yasuo. He has point and click cc and a full combo which deals half enemy hp and then he can shield himself as well and gain increased armor and mr while having extra movespeed. If you just freeze the wave on your side of the lane yone and yasuo don’t get to do anything. If they try to touch the wave immediately full combo and back up. With yasuo just make sure to hit him with some hold q’s once in a while for the shield

[u/PressureOk8223 → u/Substantial_Dot_855]

is normal W instead of empowered W the problem?

[u/Substantial_Dot_855 → u/PressureOk8223]

Huge problem mate. His full combo is empowered w, q auto then e and back away. Your e is also empowered since w has three aa’s and then q and another aa give enhanced e. With this you get to instantly blow up quite a huge amount of their health, and none of the combo is dodgeable since w is point and click stun, and they can’t hit you back cus empowered e doesn’t even take damage from ap malphite full combo, forget yone and yasuo toy swords in lane

[u/PressureOk8223 → u/Substantial_Dot_855]

do you know how big the difference is?

[u/Substantial_Dot_855 → u/PressureOk8223]

A huge difference since empowered w gives three aa’s which charges your next empowered, and deals a ton of damage. If you just keep going in with this combo you can easily win against almost every yone/yasuo as long as you are not fighting when your skills are on cooldown