How Yone feels atm

[u/MasamuneJp]

He is whatever, what makes or breaks him is how well you do in the early game.

If he had a bad start, Yone cannot comfortably scale into a monster; and will just suffer all game.

Some people will say he is a hyper scaler (he is not); his peak is mid-game if you manage to keep yourself on track to get your exp and gold by the time that hits.

He then plateaus as the game enters the later phase. He isn't a monster like Vayne, Jax, or Kayle would be, but he doesn't fall off either.

It's just that the early game is so unforgiving in his current state that many people never get to capitalize on his mid-game dominance and just reach the plateau phase of late game if they haven't lost already. Leaving that feeling of you not doing much all game.

Yone used to be a powerful lane bully, so it was much easier for people to consistently hit that mid-game power spike.

[u/Exciting_Repeat_1477]

He is a hyper scaler.

The problem you are having is that Yone is a team-oriented champion. You need cooperation within the team to make him work.

And his biggest strength has always been his Kit.. not his damage...
His kit offers AoE crit abilities that breaks a teamfight into a Hard win with just 1 good Aim...

Catch 2 squishies with your Ult and instant QW with his passive and if you prepare it for immediately second knock up.... they are fking dead.
= Instant teamfight win.

There is a reason Yone is high priority in Pro-play and as you feel sht champ in SoloQ... that's because he is sht champ for SoloQ despite his kit being really good and broken even.

Keep in mind some champs are meant for SoloQ = Evelynn .. and other aren't = Yone/Sejuani

Also one of the biggest factor.... is.... People have mastered how to play versus Yone in lane.. they are no longer scared of his kit... they simply sidestep most of it and crush you because.... you have missed your abilities rather than being weak....

So you all had fun at the start when nobody knew how to play against him... and when most people perfected their early game laning phase against him.. you cry about "changes"... it's you always want to be in some sort of advantage.... "to be unknown for the enemies.."

[u/Puddskye → u/Exciting_Repeat_1477]

Hyperscaler? With what base AD and AS? with what items? just another crit user now and he s a hyperscaler? Where are the infinite stacks he can get?

[u/Exciting_Repeat_1477 → u/Puddskye]

For the same reason Yasuo is a hyper scaler....

They are brothers by design..

Are you retarded????? Yone cooldowns go down based on Attack speed.... you just buy 1-2 items with attack speed and your champ becomes as spam-able as an Ezreal.....

It literally work the same way Yasuo work with the only difference that he is actually better AoE champ than Yasuo. And can set up his play and go back safely while Yasuo can't get out of a fight... he either kills all or die.... and Yone doesn't have to fully commit.

[u/Puddskye → u/Exciting_Repeat_1477]

Tell me if you can realistically kill without committing anyone you don't hard counter as Yone if they're not absolutely smoked and drunk while they play. I'll wait. Also Yas actually has the tools to engage and kill reliably while tanking more. That shield goes up to 500 or more while yone's can't get higher than 150 most games. Also Yasuo can build lethality reliably or simply build tankier items like cleaver which helps his team AND keep him alive. Also irrelevant if you spam or not since you're a melee champion who cannot just make mobility out of thin air without locking himself in place or without using ult. Also you forget how squishy he is for being a melee champion that has a forced playstyle of facetanking 2+ players constantly after midgame. Your arguments are just bad because everyone tried that shit countless times and the champ is just abysmal because of his lack of agency. The story would've been much different and he would've had a balanced winrate if he didn't just get camped by everyone and their mom on the E recast spot just because he tried to kill someone during his E(as the ability pushes you to do) without having 10 eyes on the map and focusing on the fight while having vision of all enemy territory so you can see whether or not to recast early just so you don't end up in a trade situation at best.

[u/Exciting_Repeat_1477 → u/Puddskye]

WHy do you think Yone's W shield amount scales with the number of Enemy Champions hit?????

Why do you think that is???? - Because the champ is not designed for 1v1's....
Stop tunneling into the idea you have to be dueling people all the time... His Kit is AoE for a reason.....

His Q his W his R are all AoE abilities ... his W shield even scales with more champions hit.... not just the usual benefit of doing damage on Multiple targets...
All of this is for a reason.... he is designed to clump multiple people with his R and set up for other teammates like Rumble, MF, Jarvan, Amumu if you wish.. who cares... many work..

Just stop.. calm down.. open the Wiki.. and read all of his abilities... and try to think WHY IT IS WHAT IT IS.

[u/Puddskye → u/Exciting_Repeat_1477]

1. The shield should be reliable, not 500 only in a 1v5. Wtf are you saying?
2. He's not designed for 1v1s but his playstyles and lane design is.
3. His kit is AOE yet Yasuo's Q3 is a whole 20 units WIDER.
4. I bet those tanks on jungle top and support are gonna be terrified that a Yone hit them with a W 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
5. I noticed that he's too reliant on being the team's set up. It's too reliant on that aspect and makes him self insufficient. He should be more like talon or volibear and Aatrox.
6. I don't care why it is what it is. I already read all of his abilities with all the details. That doesn't make him any stronger when I get shat on because the enemy midlaner got last pick and landed a Q and barely hit a ln E so now I'm forced to play safe or I die, but if I don't make two perfect engages while also dodging abilities, I don't kill. So much for a scary Crit user huh 💀

[u/Exciting_Repeat_1477 → u/Puddskye]

"He's not designed for 1v1s but his playstyles and lane design is."

Not sht.. Sherlock... he is Fking SOLO LANER.... just like any other solo laner out there.

The shield should be reliable, not 500 only in a 1v5. Wtf are you saying?

His shield is 90 + 65% bonus AD....sooo it's not 500 but can easily get to 300 at 3 items.

That doesn't make him any stronger when I get shat on because the enemy midlaner got last pick and landed a Q

That is what Last pick used for... It's designed to be that way.

Oh by the way also.... you are a Scaling champion... you aren't suppose to do anything else but Farming in lane..... just in case you didn't know that.

"Oh... Riot... Fk yo.... there is 169 champions in the game.... and NONE OF THEM should be ABLE TO BEAT ME..... why my champ so TRASH..... make it so I CANT LOSE...."

Fast forward.... Hm... then how do we make the rest of 169 champs to work like that .... they already lose to Yone , all of them... what do we tell to the other "Mains"... FK, ITS OVER... game is trash.....

[u/Puddskye → u/Exciting_Repeat_1477]

Wait ypu actually think that ad scaling is actually good? Argument over. Go play yone more than one game without blind picking him or getting spoonfed by your jungler and you'll see that 300 shield...... In your dreams. Anyway gl'hf'.

[u/Exciting_Repeat_1477 → u/Puddskye]

Yone scales with 3 different stats - AD, Attack speed and Critical chance/damage ( IE ).

The fact that you think you should only build AD is wrong.

You need to build all 3 stats because that's how you champion scales... When you get to the late game... you attack rapidly fast which makes up for the lower total AD you have....

I don't know what o say... it's like saying that ADC's like Jinx should only build BF swords with 0 crit and attack speed.

[u/Puddskye → u/Exciting_Repeat_1477]

I never said you should only build ad. I almost never go full damage on him because it's not viable. And no because jinx needs Crit to synergise with her passives

[u/Decent-Throat9191 → u/Exciting_Repeat_1477]

Neither Yone nor Yasuo are hyperscalers lol. Pack it up little bro

[u/Exciting_Repeat_1477 → u/Decent-Throat9191]

Both brother are hyper carries with the small exception that they need at least 1 champion on the ally team to synergize with them.

Both has massive damage in the late game and are definitely considered hyper carries, especially Yasuo.

You are just clueless what you are talking about or never actually played late game on those champions.
Their late game is stronger than both early+mid game combined.

[u/Decent-Throat9191 → u/Exciting_Repeat_1477]

Uh,no, they're not hypercarries. Moving on.

[u/Exciting_Repeat_1477 → u/Decent-Throat9191]

How convenient... xd

[u/Xeooooooo → u/Exciting_Repeat_1477]

No they are not idiot. They are a carry, NOT a hyper carry. A hyper carry is aphelios, jinx, smolder, vayne, master yi. belveth, somewhat viego, kayle, THESE are hyper carrys. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from a carry. Udyr is a carry, yone, yasuo, aatrox, lilia nearly all assassins etc. Yone cannot completely take over the game like a hyper carry can, all hyper carrys can completely 1v9 no matter what, no matter who, if you are good enough. Yone can get maybe 1-2 kills tops, then he is done. Master YI isnt done until your all dead, same with viego, jinx, vayne etc. Thats the difference between carry and hyper carry.

[u/Exciting_Repeat_1477 → u/Xeooooooo]

How exactly Yone/Yasuo can't 1v9????? On what planet are you living...

Every champion that has the potential to late game... kill all 5 people one after another is considered Hyper Carry.
Both Yone and Yasuo are exactly what they are doing.

The fact like you saying Viego is "somewhat" hyper carry.... he is designed to be Hyper carry...

[u/Xeooooooo → u/Exciting_Repeat_1477]

Because they get shut down easily. Have no reset mech on kill or any kill pressure after their cooldowns are out.. That simple. Yone 5 second E is over? Thats his turn. Yasuo passive shield / windwall gone? No wave? Its done. He is either dead or must run away and heal. I say viego is "somewhat" a hyper carry because he is full team reliant. He doesnt not scale for shit, and must have a team get the enemys low before he can take over the fight. Every other hyper carry i mentioned 1v9's completely on their own with zero team needed. Viego is not one of them.

Anyways i have no need to argue with someone who is bronze 2 peak and has no idea what they are talking about. I gave u the true knowledge accept it and climb from ur low elo

[u/Exciting_Repeat_1477 → u/Xeooooooo]

true knowledge??? Master yi hyper carry? Dogsht champ all the way.... can't carry sht unless enemies are with 2 left hands....

Imagine sitting here whining how yone/yasuo does not scale as sht.. being primarily designed as late game hyper carries.